[C320-list] shower / fridge drain

[Myron Welch]

Dennis,

I removed the traveler several years ago when I upgraded the cars.  The bolts were very difficult to remove with an impact wrench and I kind of remember that they were somewhat bent, but not certain.  I have had success around hatches with "Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure."  It is a very thin liquid that may find its way into the leaking area.  No guarantee, but it may be worth a try and certainly easier than the disassembly/assembly process.  Good luck.

Myron Welch
Wind Instrument, #238
Iowa City, Iowa
Grace Memorial Harbor, Elk Rapids, Michigan


On Sep 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dennis Harris <dharris02 at suddenlink.net> wrote:

> Warren,
> 
> Thanks for the heads up.  If I understand it, from prior posts that  I seem to recall, my boat #694 and Colin's #774 should have solid glass under the traveler mounting bolts, which are the ones involved and there also is an embedded metal plate that the bolts bolt into. (If I recall correctly, there are four bolts (flat head machine screws) on each end of the traveler cross beam/track, two of which extend through the cabin top and shower or interior liner top with acorn nuts on them, and two that terminate in the embedded plate.  Can any of the list members verify that the glass is solid in this area on this production series....i.e. no core to be wetted in this location?
> 
> Also, it would appear to correctly fix these leaks, the entire traveler assembly would have to be removed and re-bedded.  Has anyone done this and are there any helpful hints in doing the job?
> 
> Dennis Harris C-320 #694
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Warren Updike
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 3:36 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> Maybe someone can tell you if your deck core is protected where these bolts
> come through. I don't know; but, if the area is not resin reinforced then
> perhaps this leak is wetting the deck core in this area. A bad deal and
> needs to be fixed.  If not protected, the fix is to drill an oversized hole,
> fill it with filled epoxy, then re-drill the correct size and reassemble.
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Colin Evans [mailto:twosailors at bigpond.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:50 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> Dennis,
> We have a leak through a bolt that holds the traveller down.  There are two
> acorn nuts in the head, directly over the under sink cupboard door and towel
> rail.  One of these leak when it rains heavy, just an annoying drip.  I`ve
> tried to remove the bolt out to re-seal it, but I can`t get it out, so we
> live with it.  Don`t leave a towel on the rail.
> If you work out how to do it let me know.
>   *************************
> Regards
> Colin Evans
> Watermark #774
> Lake Macquarie, Australia
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Harris
> Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2012 11:42 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> Thanks.  Maybe I didn't do permanent damage.  I noticed evidence of leaks in
> 
> two places, on deck directly below a bolt in overhead of shower (below
> traveler) and at the electrical outlet near hanging locker in aft bunk area.
> 
> The only way that I could see water coming from these two places is if there
> 
> was some spraying action in the area of the anti-syphon loop relief valve.
> This occurred after I was washing out the shower area and ran the sump pump
> to clear some of the water a few weeks ago, and the thing is that I'm not
> sure that I opened the thruhull before running the sump.  If the leaks
> re-appear, then I will know it is something else.  If they don't, then there
> 
> is a good chance that the sump pump over pressured the anti-siphon valve and
> 
> sprayed the water to the locations that I saw.
> 
> Dennis Harris C-320 #694
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jim brown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:35 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> I have a lot of practice at this having done it at least three times over
> the last 7 years It does built up a lot of pressure (I've wondered it it
> could be used to unclog the hose and or the thru hull but would only try as
> a last resort) but I've had no problem. I did check the anti-siphon valves
> in the head cabinet. Just unscrew the little valve holder on top and take
> out the duckbill valve. You can check if it's still OK by blowing through it
> 
> and the sucking back. There should be no leak with the suction. If OK just
> put it back in with the duck bill down. WM and other stores sell the
> duckbills and it's good to have a couple extra.
> 
> 
> Jim Brown
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dennis Harris <dharris02 at suddenlink.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> If one has run the shower sump pump (just briefly) without opening the
> thruhull,  will there likely be permanent damage to the anti-syphon loop
> relief valve?  And if so, how does one get at it to repair/or check it?  Not
> 
> sure, but I believe I may have mistakenly done this recently. Rats...
> 
> Dennis Harris C-320 #694
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Colin Evans
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:41 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> You definitely need the through hull head inlet open as this is also the
> discharge for the shower and fridge sumps. The `Y` valve only controls which
> sump you are emptying.
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Regards
> Colin Evans
> __/)
> ~~~~~
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Sutherland
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 10:16 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> I tried both ways - inlet open and closed. I will check the relief
> valve-perhaps I did some damage there.
> Thanks,
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Colin Evans <twosailors at bigpond.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> Do you have the head inlet open to allow the sump pump to discharge.  If you
> don`t something will blow. Probably the relief valve in the anti-syphon loop
> behind the head.
> *************************
> Regards
> Colin Evans
> Watermark #774
> Lake Macquarie, Australia
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Robert
> Sutherland
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 September 2012 9:33 AM
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] shower / fridge drain
> 
> The list helped me with a related issue a few years ago involving the shower
> / fridge sump. New issue and I checked the archives so maybe a couple of
> questions will get me going.
> I am getting power to the pump under the sink ( it vibrates) but am not
> getting the shower or fridge to drain. There is a Jabsco "pump guard"
> between the Y valve and the pump. Is this the strainer that was mentioned in
> the archives? I attempted to remove the front but it wouldn't budge so
> didn't want to force  it.
> Also there was a suggestion to "clear" the hose to the pump. Would I remove
> it to the left of pump? And then what?
> 
> Any ideas / suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bob Sutherland
> Never Enough # 1043
> Sandusky, OH
> 
> 
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