[C320-list] Hoses going through the wall

Fri Apr 12 09:09:59 PDT 2013

Another great idea combined with the others.  This will be our weekend project.  I will report our findings.

Jeff Brown
"Out of the blue" Dana Point, CA
Hull 78
oceanblues at mac.com

On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:45 AM, jim brown wrote:

> Auto parts suppliers also sell kits for tracking engine water leaks that consist of a fluorescent dye (it's actually pretty clear)  that's added to the water and then tracked with a blue light. Pretty inexpensive and has lots of uses. 
> 
> Jim Brown 
> 
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> ________________________________
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com 
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hoses going through the wall
> 
> 
> Try this. Get some blue dyed toilet bowl cleaner (or any other water
> soluble coloring that won't stain Fiberglas...try it in an inconspicuous
> spot first). Put some in a bucket and add some water. Disconnect
> your engine intake hose from the through hull fitting and put it in the
> bucket. Run your engine untill the bucket is dry. Reconnect the hose and
> run the engine until you can follow the blue bread crumb trail back to
> Grandmother's  house...um, er...to the source of the leak.
> 
> CB
> Commitment #867
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Warren
>> Thanks for the note. I replaced the pump too ($600), I've seriously tried
>> everything.
>> 
>> Jeff Brown
>> 949-350-5123
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah, Jeff, with hull #78 you probably have a Perkins engine with the
>> Jabsco
>>> raw water pump.  Mine had a slight leak for maybe several years.  There
>> is a
>>> weep hole in the bottom of the casting behind the pump.  Wrap the back of
>>> the pump with a rag or paper towel.  If that is the source of your water
>> the
>>> seals are bad, and you need to rebuilt the pump.  I sent mine to Depco
>> Pump
>>> in FL, to have it rebuilt for about $60 plus parts.  Try pricing a new
>> pump.
>>> Wow!  Depco was very responsive.
>>> 
>>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jeff Brown [mailto:oceanblues at mac.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 6:42 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hoses going through the wall
>>> 
>>> I've isolated it to the the raw water cooling system.  All valves
>> closed, i
>>> can get the boat bone dry.  When I open only the raw water valve, run the
>>> engine, we get the water.  It appears the water comes in slowly, over a
>> few
>>> days, like the leak slowly leaks out of the system as it drains, and I
>> think
>>> it's low in the system do to the amount of water.  It will only leak
>> after
>>> the engine is run, but not before.
>>> 
>>> Jeff Brown
>>> "Out of the blue" Dana Point, CA
>>> Hull 78
>>> oceanblues at mac.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 2:47 PM, William Ott wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Here are a few more places to look:
>>>> All along the exhaust hose from muffler to discharge The area around
>>>> where the shaft strut is glassed in under the aft berth The head hose
>>>> system from intake all the way to discharge, including holding tank.
>>>> Raw water pump seal or loose cover plate.
>>>> Raw water strainer and hose
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried to isolate sections of the boat to determine the source
>>> location ?  Is that how you came up with the thought that it was an
>> engine
>>> hose leak ?  Does the leak occur only when the engine is running?
>>>> 
>>>> Mike Ott
>>>> 'Amanda Lu'
>>>> #508
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Jeff Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> You've must have seen my checklist :).  I've checked every one of these
>>> items and still cannot find the issue. I've had several people look at it
>>> and we're all baffled.
>>>>> Jeff Brown
>>>>> "Out of the blue" Dana Point, CA
>>>>> Hull 78
>>>>> oceanblues at mac.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Jeff Hare wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Places that might leak through salt water?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pinholes in the Exhaust elbow.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bottom of the muffler
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shaft seal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any of the thru-hull hoses
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The handles of any of the forespar thru-hulls!!  Don't remove the
>> screw
>>> from the handle when the boat is in the water no matter what!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keel bolts have been known to weep.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bilge pump may drain some back into the bilge over time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The speedo and depth transducers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's all I can think of offhand.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jeffrey Brown <oceanblues at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's salt water so those hoses have been eliminated from my
>> checklist.
>>>>>>> We have quite the bazaar leak going on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jeff Brown
>>>>>>> 949-350-5123
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2013, at 6:49 PM, Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe jumping in a bit late on this, but if the leak is
>>>>>>>> antifreeze,
>>>>>>> then it
>>>>>>>> might be these hoses.  If the leak is fresh water, then I'd
>>>>>>>> suspect
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> pressure relief valve on the hot water heater itself.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Remove the galley drawers, the 5 or 6 screws on the frame and lift
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> drawer frame out.  Also the little wooden storage compartment
>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> stove comes out the same way and between those two you'll be able
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>>> those hoses run.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Other people on the list suggest laying paper towels or Kleenexes
>>>>>>> where you
>>>>>>>> suspect water might be leaking to see if you can spot the leak
>> later.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Jeff
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>>> Brown
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 7:34 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Catalina C320 List
>>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Hoses going through the wall
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to find where the two hoses off the engine that are
>>>>>>>> part
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>> engine cooling system that go though the wall, behind the
>>>>>>> refrigerator. I
>>>>>>>> think one of these has a leak behind that wall but cannot figure
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> they go or how to access them. I have a picture if anyone might
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> answer. Send me an email and I can forward the pic. Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jeff Brown
>>>>>>>> 949-350-5123=
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> -- 
> Chris Burti
> Farmville, NC