[C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor

[Bruce Hunter]

Warren and Patti,
                         We're at White Rocks Marina in Rock Creek. I'd like a little more protection from the elements and I am considering the Bodkin Yacht Club but the 50 hour service rule might be an obsticle for us. Our boat is currently named "Le Bijou" but we are changing it to "Nauti Time" when the weather warms.
 
Bruce & Lesley #719

From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor

Bruce, we're on the Chesapeake above the Bay Bridge; but, we do cruise its
entire length in our wanderings.  Our anchor is a danforth with 12' chain
and 150' 1/2" nylon.  The only problem we've ever had anchoring is on Mill
Cr. off Whitehall Bay (just No. of Annapolis.)  There, just on the other
side of the great sand spit above Cantler's restaurant, is a nice anchorage;
but, a couple of times we've had holding problems apparently because of a
thick collection of leaves on the bottom.  That said, my favorite boat guru
loves his delta.  I'm sure a spade or other similar kinds will work well on
the Chesapeake. 

As for the windlass and chain, I will haul the chain by hand once
up-and-down.  However, I've heard of some that will haul the chain on the
rope drum and not had a problem.  If I had more than 12' of chain, I'd
probably do that too.  

By the way, where are you and what is your vessel's name?  

Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Hunter [mailto:swampcreek42 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 2:31 PM
To: Chris Burti; C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor

I never had problems with a Danforth type until we tried to anchor our
old Macgregor one night in some real loose mud, it then seemed to glide
happily along on the top. I pretty much have it narrowed down to a Roncor or
a Spade just to ease my mind. 
 
Anyone have input on use of the windlass? I'm really at a loss there.
 
BTW if the previous owner of our boat is out there (He is a member
here) THANK YOU for the additional paperwork you sent us, a Thank You card
is on the way!
 
Bruce
#719

From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
To: Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>; "C320-List at Catalina320.com"
<C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: [C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor

The whole purpose of this group is to share knowledge and experience related
to our model boat. No apologies necessary for basic questions.
In fact such questions often generate excellent discussions.

I'll admit that teak finishing, anchors and caulking discussions border on
religious dogma, but this is a fairly collegial group and the debate always
remains congenial.

Another tip is the search the archives first as they will often provide a
lot of information that can help refine your questions.

That said, I've had good success with a Danforth in mud and sand, but I've
had a lot of experience. Sam Clemmons said good judgment comes from
experience, most of which comes from bad judgment. The effectiveness of the
Danforth drops off pretty fast in grass or rocks.

I decided on the Delta because, with limitations, it works pretty well in
these waters and held a Cal-27, T/2 through the wind swings of a
Cat-3 hurricane.

Without commenting on the effectiveness of any pau anchors, there was a lot
of controversy on another list some time ago when a company principal was
responding to questions like this without disclosing his interest or obvious
bias. Therefore, you need to take what you read with a grain of salt. Even
independent testing organizations have an institutional bias and may not
test the latest products of a particular manufacturer.

Thanks, Chris Burti From: Bruce Hunter
Sent: 2/9/2013 10:38 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor We just bought our
C320 (#719) in September so please understand any elementary questions. I'm
also looking into upgrading our ground tackle for the Chesapeake which is
mostly black loose mud, sometimes sand and of course lesser variations of
everything else except coral.
I have a few questions...chain, I thought the stock windlass was only to
have rode be ran through it, do you wind in the anchor till you get to chain
and then pull it by hand?

Also I see many types of anchors people swear by and then the next thing I
read totally states something else, "Practical Sailor" just did a review on
smaller anchors and the "Spade" brand (V shaped sole) won out. Does anyone
have this anchor?

All our previous boats were smaller with less equipment and were much less
of an investment so we just made what we had work (I NEVER had a windlass).
With this boat we want to avoid as many expensive lessons as
possible...going adrift with over 12,000 pounds is one of them.

Thanks,
Bruce, #719
From: Mike Ott <wmo48 at yahoo.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor

My primary system is: 25 # Manson Supreme w/ 30' chain & 150' 3-strand
nylon.  I have a 22 # Bruce w/ 150' rode (15'chain) for backup.

Mike Ott
'Amanda Lu'
#508




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From: Gene Helfman <genehelfman at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Sent: Sun, February 3, 2013 11:43:49 PM
Subject: [C320-list] what size/type chain & anchor

Quick survey if you're willing: What is your ground tackle (chain size,
type, and length and anchor type and size)?  Are you happy with it?

thanks,

gene helfman
Satori
1997, #398


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