[C320-list] Air Conditioning

Kirk Mueller kirkm753 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 6 11:21:08 PDT 2013


I feel your pain.   I've had the boat for three months and it hasn't left
the slip.   -:)

Kirk
On Jun 6, 2013 1:01 PM, "Wash, Steve" <wash at advantageelectronics.com> wrote:

> Kirk,
>
> Not yet.  It usually just the 2 of us and the door stays open.  The
> louvers are on the endless things to do to the boat list - LOL.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com [mailto:
> c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk Mueller
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 12:19 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
>
> Great information Steve.   Did you put some louvers in the aft cabin door
> so you can close it and still have air circulate?
>
> Regards,
>
> Kirk
> On Jun 6, 2013 11:45 AM, "Wash, Steve" <wash at advantageelectronics.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kirk,
> >
> > A large intake is located at the foot of the bed (a bit left of center).
> >  To the right of that is a pretty small discharge.  I located it about
> 12"
> > over (I think).  It is only 3x5 inches or so.  I didn't want it at the
> > head of the bed blowing on us.  I kept it small so the intake wouldn't
> > just suck the cool air back into the intake.  The discharge has the
> > usual louvers that permit us to aim it up and forward to discourage
> > this.  Since the return is in the aft berth, we also get cool air from
> > the salon through the door.  The 'Y' junction used in the installation
> > has a diverter to help balance the flow.  I haven't had a need to
> > adjust it from the default 50% position.
> >
> > I'll be at the boat this weekend and take a picture ...  The discharge
> > in the aft berth is probably more useful when heating.
> >
> > Steve
> > #1029
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com [mailto:
> > c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk Mueller
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 10:49 AM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> >
> > Hey Steve,
> >
> > Where in the aft berth did you put the discharge?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Kirk
> > Second Chance #361
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > Sent from a tin can with a very long string. :-)
> >
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2013, at 9:43 AM, "Wash, Steve"
> > <wash at advantageelectronics.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > HI,
> > > We have a 16K Marine Air unit  - reverse cycle (Port Lazarette).  It
> > > has
> > been a great choice given the last 2 summers on Lake Michigan have
> > seen many days in the 90's.  It cools down very quickly. We have a
> > large discharge over the 'bread box' in the salon and a small
> > discharge in the aft berth.
> > >
> > > The single 30A service has been mostly adequate.  We have blown the
> > breaker on the rare occasion the A/C, microwave and water heater are
> > on at the same time.
> > >
> > > Good luck with your project.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > #1029
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> > > Sulewski
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:30 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> > >
> > > I concur on the 16K AC/Heat unit selection as it may cycle less and
> > > will
> > more rapidly reach the target temperature. With a 16K unit we can come
> > & go with the companionway open for extended periods on hot/humid days
> > because the AC unit begins to noticeably  recover the target
> > temperature in just a few minutes. The 16K unit will also cool down
> > the entire boat without having to partition off the v-berth or aft
> > cabin. The difference between the 12K and 16K unit was only $200 just a
> few years ago.
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> > > mtpoodles
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:58 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> > >
> > > The 16,000 btu unit has been a good choice.  I know you will like it.
> > >
> > > Diane
> > >
> > > Marshall & Diane Lucas and
> > > The Merrythought Poodles
> > > S/V Merrythought
> > > Catalina 320 #1037
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > > Mueller
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 4:04 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> > >
> > > Hey Diane,
> > >
> > > Annapolis Cruisair suggested the 16,000 btu single unit.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the feedback.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > >
> > > Sent from a tin can with a very long string. :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Diane <mtpoodles at atlanticbb.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Annapolis Cruisair also did our AC system. It is just as Allan
> > >> described
> > > as far as ducting. However, our single unit is 16,000 btu. The v
> > > berth
> > door does get closed in hot weather. The system works very well for
> > both AC and heat.
> > >>
> > >> Diane
> > >>
> > >> Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Kirk - We went with Annapolis CruisAir about 10 years ago and have
> > >>> never had a problem with the unit.  We went with a 12,000 BTU unit.
> > >>> The compressor is in the port side locker.  The outflow vent is
> > >>> above and to port of the cabinet above the refrigerator.  The
> > >>> return is at the foot of the aft cabin bunk.  The pump and water
> > >>> inflow thru-hull are under the aft cabin bunk close to the fresh
> water pump.
> > >>>
> > >>> When it gets really hot, like over 95 degrees, we close off the
> > >>> V-berth. (We removed the aft cabin door years ago.)  But the A/C
> > >>> will cool the boat down even on those days with the V-berth cabin
> > >>> door open.  It just won't get it much below about 72 when the sun
> > >>> is shining brightly and it's over 95.
> > >>> We
> > >>> recently bought the Hatch-Hoodie to put over the forward hatch but
> > >>> have not yet tried it out on the really hot days.  Regardless,
> > >>> very few people, other than our grandsons when they were younger,
> > >>> ever sleep in the V-berth.
> > >>>
> > >>> We had a choice between a 16,000 BTU system (which we looked at on
> > >>> another
> > >>> C320) and the 12,000.  The 16,000 is a "split-system" meaning
> > >>> there are
> > >>> 2
> > >>> compressor units and it takes up  a lot of space, plus needs ducts.
> > >>> We have never regretted going with the 12,000.  As for the head,
> > >>> several years ago we put a hook-and-eye on the door with the eye
> > >>> on the inside frame and the hook on the inside of the door so we
> > >>> can prop the door open a few inches when we are off the boat plus
> > >>> cool or warm the head when the AC/heat pump is running.
> > >>>
> > >>> This upgrade was the best thing we ever did on the boat.  It
> > >>> really turned the boat into a summer home for us with a view that
> > >>> if we get tired of, we can change!  The heating cycle also opens
> > >>> up March and November for staying on the boat.  August is not a
> > >>> particularly sailor-friendly month on the Chesapeake but that does
> > >>> not stop us from going down to the boat for the weekend.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hope this helps!
> > >>>
> > >>> Allan S. Field
> > >>> Sea Shadow - #808
> > >>> Columbia, MD
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > >>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kirk
> > >>> Mueller
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 11:44 AM
> > >>> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> > >>> Subject: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>
> > >>> Has anyone recently installed A/C in their boat.  If so, what type
> > >>> and size?
> > >>> Where did they put the unit, the supply ducts and the return?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Kirk Mueller
> > >>> Second Chance #361
> > >>> Rock Hall, MD
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>



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