[C320-list] Propane can storage.

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I store my small BBQ propane bottles in a Sunbrella zippered bag made my Magma.  I have fastened this bag under the removeable cockpit seat.  I mounted SS eye straps to the underside of my cockpit seat and use these to connect (clip with the bag fasteners) the bags straps so it is suspended under the seat.  I place a couple of bottles there with the regulator and the always dirty BBQ brush.  It is unseen and out of the way until I need to access them.  No issues with heavier than air propane collecting in the bottom of a locker.  I have found that some of these "store bought" bottles can leak over time.  The Magma bag is designed for small propane bottle storage to hang on the lifelines or the stern rail.  I decided not to do this but to store it out of sight and out of the way under my removable helm set.  My C320 is the second sailboat where I have done this.  It works well for us.  

Dave

David Swanson
S/V Emily Ann
2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107
Mukilteo, WA 


On Jun 22, 2013, at 8:30 AM, millers1 at aol.com wrote:

> 
> The small BBQ grill propane cans.  Any reason not to store them in the anchor locker, it has
> a low point drain??
> When I get time I will install a hose and valve from the cockpit 10# tank.
> Thx.
> Art  #680
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Vez <Jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 20, 2013 5:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3M 4200 fast cure (jim brown)
> 
> 
> Jim,
> 
> I highly recommend you take a look at this excellent tutorial on using Butyl 
> Tape.
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware
> 
> Jon
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 20, 2013, at 5:17 PM, jim brown <jbrown5093 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> I just ordered 30ft of 3/4 inch butyl tape from an RV supplier for $7 so I'll 
> be able to make plenty of mistakes and still have some to share. Actually it's 
> cheaper than the small tube of either 4200 or 4000. If all goes well I may rebed 
> all the shroud deck fittings since I can see a little rust on the edges of the 
> interior fittings in a couple of places. I thought it might be from condensation 
> in the winter since I haven't actually seen any leaks during rains or wash downs 
> but that may be wishful thinking. . 
>> 
>> Jim Brown
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Alan Goodman <goodmanalanlee at hotmail.com>
>> To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com" <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:31 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] 3M 4200 fast cure (jim brown)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jim - I agree 100% with Jon.  I just completed rebedding both aft lower 
> shrouds and 2 stanchions.  If you go with sealant in a tube, 4000 is the way to 
> go.  If you look at 3M's technical document (on line at 3M) it specifically 
> states it is designed for high flex sealing applications and its data sheet 
> shows amazing elongation prior to sealant failure (which a shroud application is 
> subject to).   I used the butyl tape (from SailRite) and found it much easier 
> and cleaner to use than sealant in a tube.  You need to consider whether you 
> have had any water penetration into the deck core (my hull 67 is not solid 
> fiberglass at the shrouds but rather wood cored.  I removed the factory sealant 
> which fills the entire chain plate slot in the deck (tough job), removed wet 
> core and filled/sealed with epoxy, used an industrial self-leveling tube sealant 
> to refill the  chain plate slot in the deck, and then butyl tape to seal the 
> slotted rectangular cover
>> plate.  Very pleased as we have recently experience days of torrential rains 
> and not a drop.  I installed the chain plate with washers inside the cabin 
> between the bottom of the interior fiberglass and the top of the interior chain 
> plate flange to as to keep an open space for water to leak out should the seal 
> fail (and my previous sealant efforts using a different technique did indeed 
> leak and I was able to  easily observe drips inside the cabin indicating I had 
> not been successful).  Alan
>> 
>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:15:57 -0400
>>> From: "Jon Vez" <jonvez at comcast.net>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 3M 4200 fast cure
>>> Message-ID: <003e01ce6cef$23050c40$690f24c0$@net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>> 
>>> You might want to consider using Butyl Tape. This is what the factory is now
>>> using. If you google 'Bed it with Butyl' or go to the Compass Marine
>>> website, there is an excellent tutorial by 'Maine Sail' on using it. If you
>>> want to stick with a sealant, try 3M 4000UV. You do not need strength, just
>>> flexibility and sealing....Have not heard about 4200 being discontinued....
>>> 
>>> Good luck...
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of jim brown
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:46 AM
>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: [C320-list] 3M 4200 fast cure
>>> 
>>> My starboard deck fitting for the lower aft shroud is leaking slightly in
>>> heavy rains. I had planned to rebed the deck fitting using 3M 4200. Three
>>> area WM stores are out of it in the 3 oz tube (don't need the large size)
>>> and 2 stores said that 4200 has been discontinued by 3M (however it's still
>>> listed on the 3M website). Any information on what to replace it with (don't
>>> want to use 5200) and whether the rumor is true?
>>> 
>>> Jim Brown
> 
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