[C320-list] air condition

[Warren Updike]

Recently there was an article in Practical Sailor (Marine Heads, July 2013.)
They rated the Jabsco neoprene joker valve the best; but, concluded, "...the
joker valves for Groco, Jabsco, and Raritan manual heads are so nearly
identical in dimension and shape as to be interchangeable."  If you pump to
nature, don't use ethylene glycol to winterize, otherwise ok.  And, neoprene
is not as resistant to propylene glycol. Best to follow mfgr recommendations
for winterizing.  
Don't use bleach or disinfectants; vinegar of CLR is ok but little else.
Don't use plumber's plunger with such heads.
Lubricate pump plunger and shaft annually with synthetic grease.
If you lubricate with oil in the bowl, olive oil is best.
Install the joker valve with the slot vertical.
And so it goes (Kurt Vonnegut)

Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Hare [mailto:catalina at thehares.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 4:45 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] air condition

You're right, but there seems to be one redeeming thing about using a tiny
bit of the pink stuff.  It seems to keep seals and impellers nicely lubed
over the winter and so they don't dry out.  Maybe pour a half cup in the
hose and blow that through... or not :)  Seems to be fine without at least
anecdotally. 

This is really evident with the head pump seals.  In fact, I pour a splash
of head lube on the final pump.  While I should knock on wood here, the Head
seals are still factory originals on our 2001 #809 and it pumps as smooth as
glass.

-Jeff

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Allan S Field
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:30 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] air condition

Waste of antifreeze.

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Doug Treff
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:57 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] air condition

Another option:

1. Close thru-hull
2. Remove hose and place the end in a bottle of pink RV anti-freeze.
3. Run Air Conditioner until pink stuff comes out discharge 4. Reattach hose
5. Remember to leave through-hull open once boat is out of the water.

Doug Treff
doug at treff.us

On 10/10/2013 5:55 PM, Allan S Field wrote:
> To winterize the A/C, I close the thru hull, remove the hose from the 
> end of the thru hull, take a really deep breath, and blow the water in 
> the system out.  Repeat the deep breath and blow part 4-5 times (my 
> sense is that virtually all the water in the system comes out the 
> first time but why risk it...), reattach the hose to the closed thru 
> hull and forget about it until the spring.  I have never had a problem 
> with either the pump or system in about 12 seasons and some winters 
> have
gone down to the 0-10 degree F range.
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of 
> jsheets at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:12 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Cc: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] air condition
>
> We also have a Cruisair installed this year in the large port locker. 
> We have vents running to the main cabin, aft berth and v berth. Works
fine.
> Summer at the bay is much more enjoyable now.
> Allen, do you have any quick tips on winterization of the unit?
>
> Jerry Sheets
> JellyRoll  # 890
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:25 AM, "Allan S Field" 
>> <allan.field at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>> Tom - Depending on where you are located, A/C can be the best 
>> investment you can make.  For us, on the Chesapeake Bay, A/C changed 
>> out boat into a summer home.  We went with a 12,000 BTU CruisAir 
>> system about 12 years ago and have never had an issue with it.  It is 
>> essentially a reverse-cycle heat pump that gives us heat until the 
>> water temp gets below at 37 and good A/C all through the hot months.
>> Our install is in the port large locker.  That said, if doing it 
>> again or for the first time, I would be looking at the installs that 
>> Warren Updike and Bruce Stumpp did on their C320's.  There may be pix 
>> out on the
> website.
>> Allan S. Field
>> Sea Shadow - #808
>> Columbia, MD
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of 
>> conneelythomas at aol.com
>> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 7:33 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] air condition
>>
>>
>> Hi All , What is the most current thought on installing a/c in a 320 ?
>> I am looking at a " turbo self contained a/c and where to install it ?
>> Thank You , Tom   916
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Trudi <trudid at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: c320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Sun, Oct 6, 2013 3:36 pm
>> Subject: [C320-list] Bulkhead Panels
>>
>>
>> I took the panels out and the folding oor also.  Keeps the boat so 
>> much cooler.  I made adjustable curtains or all three openings hung 
>> with bungee cords, which would give v berth leepers a little privacy 
>> and hide storage.  Photo available on request.
>> was told they quit making the cutouts because of the expense, cut, 
>> trim pening, make panels etc.
>> rudi DevineHolokai2, Catalina 320 1994 # 112 arina del Rey, CA 
>> rudid at sbcglobal.net
>>