[C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?

[John Meyers]

Here is another hint that will reduce evaporation in the roller pan. Cover
the pan with a board while rolling onto the boat. I do it with 2 cans.

John Meyers
Muskegon MI
Wind Chime



On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:59 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com <
tharrison at innovations-plus.com> wrote:

> Bill this was excellent information. I may be able to reduce my vc17 use
> by 1 can.
>
> When you say cover to you mean the roller. Like a 13mm split form nap?
>
> When do you change covers?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted hull 424
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Bill Culbertson <billculb_a2 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmm.  I'm on Lake Erie and I've put on VC17 for 13 years (6 times). I
> always use 2.5 cans.  I use a roller from a pan and I don't dilute.  I put
> on one coat every other year.  I "prep" the surface with a wet brush to get
> loose stuff off and let it dry.  The key is to do it quickly.  You pour a
> very small amount (compared to if you were house painting or Alblative
> bottom painting) into the pan - maybe such that the liquid extends about 3"
> from the deepest part of the pan up toward the shallow end or about 1.5 to
> 2.0 roller widths.  I use a 7" roller (I've used the recommended 4" but I
> get better results with 7").  Do not use a cheap cover.  Get it all onto
> the roller quickly and evenly - 2 or 3 swipes. If the roller can't hold it
> all, then pour less next time.  Then get that load onto the boat quickly.
> Getting that rollerful onto the boat takes me maybe 7 seconds or so. I
> think (from memory) that it is about 1.5 - 2.0 sq ft or so.  Then
> > repeat.  I stir a lot - nearly every time I pour. Don't let any of it
> sit in the pan for any time.  What goes into the pan stays in the pan for
> only as long as it takes to get it onto the roller.  For the whole bottom I
> think I tend to use about 3 covers.
> >
> > One other trick I started doing recently as my back started complaining
> more the last few years :).  I used to do the entire bottom front to back.
>  Seemed obvious.  But now-a-days I do the nose (which really has no flat
> bottom surface) and then only the flat bottom surface front to back.  Like
> painting a ceiling in a crawl space I tell my friends. I use knee pads and
> am on my knees most of the time unless it is too high.  I have a small
> plastic foot stool that I sit on when I can do so and still reach.  The
> flat bottom part is the most uncomfortable for me.  After doing the entire
> flat bottom part then I pull out the stool and do the keel which is quite
> comfortable.  Then I do the rudder mostly standing which is moderately
> comfortable except for the lower part which I sometimes do sitting.  Now
> comes the easy and comfortable part.  I go back to the nose and do the
> sides while standing.  I join the painted flat bottom part up to the boot
> stripe
> > tape.  I'm standing upright the whole time and it is quite comfortable.
> Which is good because by that time my back is killing me from doing the
> earlier stuff.
> >
> > When I used to do it all front to back, I found the area aft of the keel
> Hell-on-wheels. First, there is a LOT of flat bottom area back there and
> second, by then I'm pretty sore already with lots of boat left to paint.  I
> used to think I was halfway done when I'd gotten to the back of the keel.
>  Now I don't think so given the boat shape.  The new scheme although odd
> and non-intuitive has worked out really well for me and my back these last
> few times.
> >
> >  -bill culbertson
> >   Harmony #859
> >   Western Lake Erie
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "bkuether at comcast.net" <bkuether at comcast.net>
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
> >
> >
> > Depends on the temperature and how you apply.
> >
> > If you are pouring the VC into a pan and rolling it on, I would say
> three.
> >
> > If you are squirting the VC onto a roller, I once did my 320 with 2 but
> it
> > was tight!
> >
> > If you are using a pan and its hot out?  3.5 to 4.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marek Fluder
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:35 PM
> > To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> > Subject: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
> >
> > Hello listers,
> >
> > The highly anticipated time is coming after the long winter...
> > If you use VC17 on your bottom, how many cans it usually takes?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Marek Fluder
>