[C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?

Sat Mar 22 13:37:54 PDT 2014

Ahoy, and thanks......I am a new member. As to the thru hull 
location....is there enough room to slide the tank forward for removal? 
Thanks...Jo n Beth 

 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:03 PM, clburti at gmail.com wrote:

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> Our through hull discharge is located  forward of the tank, in line 
> with the batteries with enough clearance to operate the valve lever 
> located between the valve body and the tank.
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> Thanks.....I'm aware of the general location. If the holding tank 
> needs to be removed for any reason, the stem of the thru hull may 
> impact that process, if put in the way. I'm trying to decide if it 
> should go outboard of the holding tank, or forward of the right side 
> close to battery location.......Thanks....Joe
>    On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Dick Walker wrote:
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>> It is under the forward STBD seat
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>> Cheers
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>> Dick Walker
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado ,CA 92118
>> 619.435.8986
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>>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 5:43, Elizabeth Schwartz  wrote:
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>>> ahoy all.....I'm new to the C 320 group. Recently purchased 1995 
>>> hull #245. Can someone send me a photo of the location of the 
>>> holding tank macerator discharge thru hull, that best allows for 
>>> holding tank removal if necessary?  Also, has anyone drilled out 
>>> weep holes in the "hollow" floor grid structure? Thanks.....Joe 
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 06:46 AM, John Meyers wrote:
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>>>> Here is another hint that will reduce evaporation in the roller 
>>>> pan. Cover
>>>> the pan with a board while rolling onto the boat. I do it with 2 
>>>> cans.
>>>>
>>>> John Meyers
>>>> Muskegon MI
>>>> Wind Chime
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>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:59 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com <
>>>> tharrison at innovations-plus.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Bill this was excellent information. I may be able to reduce my 
>>>>> vc17 use
>>>>> by 1 can.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you say cover to you mean the roller. Like a 13mm split form 
>>>>> nap?
>>>>>
>>>>> When do you change covers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted hull 424
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Bill Culbertson
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm.  I'm on Lake Erie and I've put on VC17 for 13 years (6 
>>>>>> times). I
>>>>> always use 2.5 cans.  I use a roller from a pan and I don't 
>>>>> dilute. I put
>>>>> on one coat every other year.  I "prep" the surface with a wet 
>>>>> brush to get
>>>>> loose stuff off and let it dry.  The key is to do it quickly.  You 
>>>>> pour a
>>>>> very small amount (compared to if you were house painting or 
>>>>> Alblative
>>>>> bottom painting) into the pan - maybe such that the liquid extends 
>>>>> about 3"
>>>>> from the deepest part of the pan up toward the shallow end or 
>>>>> about 1.5 to
>>>>> 2.0 roller widths.  I use a 7" roller (I've used the recommended 
>>>>> 4" but I
>>>>> get better results with 7").  Do not use a cheap cover.  Get it 
>>>>> all onto
>>>>> the roller quickly and evenly - 2 or 3 swipes. If the roller can't 
>>>>> hold it
>>>>> all, then pour less next time.  Then get that load onto the boat 
>>>>> quickly.
>>>>> Getting that rollerful onto the boat takes me maybe 7 seconds or 
>>>>> so. I
>>>>> think (from memory) that it is about 1.5 - 2.0 sq ft or so.  Then
>>>>>> repeat.  I stir a lot - nearly every time I pour. Don't let any 
>>>>>> of it
>>>>> sit in the pan for any time.  What goes into the pan stays in the 
>>>>> pan for
>>>>> only as long as it takes to get it onto the roller.  For the whole 
>>>>> bottom I
>>>>> think I tend to use about 3 covers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One other trick I started doing recently as my back started 
>>>>>> complaining
>>>>> more the last few years :).  I used to do the entire bottom front 
>>>>> to back.
>>>>> Seemed obvious.  But now-a-days I do the nose (which really has no 
>>>>> flat
>>>>> bottom surface) and then only the flat bottom surface front to 
>>>>> back. Like
>>>>> painting a ceiling in a crawl space I tell my friends. I use knee 
>>>>> pads and
>>>>> am on my knees most of the time unless it is too high.  I have a 
>>>>> small
>>>>> plastic foot stool that I sit on when I can do so and still reach. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> flat bottom part is the most uncomfortable for me.  After doing 
>>>>> the entire
>>>>> flat bottom part then I pull out the stool and do the keel which 
>>>>> is quite
>>>>> comfortable.  Then I do the rudder mostly standing which is 
>>>>> moderately
>>>>> comfortable except for the lower part which I sometimes do 
>>>>> sitting. Now
>>>>> comes the easy and comfortable part.  I go back to the nose and do 
>>>>> the
>>>>> sides while standing.  I join the painted flat bottom part up to 
>>>>> the boot
>>>>> stripe
>>>>>> tape.  I'm standing upright the whole time and it is quite 
>>>>>> comfortable.
>>>>> Which is good because by that time my back is killing me from 
>>>>> doing the
>>>>> earlier stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I used to do it all front to back, I found the area aft of 
>>>>>> the keel
>>>>> Hell-on-wheels. First, there is a LOT of flat bottom area back 
>>>>> there and
>>>>> second, by then I'm pretty sore already with lots of boat left to 
>>>>> paint.  I
>>>>> used to think I was halfway done when I'd gotten to the back of 
>>>>> the keel.
>>>>> Now I don't think so given the boat shape.  The new scheme 
>>>>> although odd
>>>>> and non-intuitive has worked out really well for me and my back 
>>>>> these last
>>>>> few times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -bill culbertson
>>>>>>  Harmony #859
>>>>>>  Western Lake Erie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: "bkuether at comcast.net" To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on the temperature and how you apply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are pouring the VC into a pan and rolling it on, I would 
>>>>>> say
>>>>> three.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are squirting the VC onto a roller, I once did my 320 with 
>>>>>> 2 but
>>>>> it
>>>>>> was tight!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are using a pan and its hot out?  3.5 to 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Marek Fluder
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>>>> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The highly anticipated time is coming after the long winter...
>>>>>> If you use VC17 on your bottom, how many cans it usually takes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Marek Fluder
>>>>>
>>>>
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