[C320-list] Holding Tank Discharge Through Hull
Warren Updike
wupdike at hotmail.com
Sun Mar 23 13:36:21 PDT 2014
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Warren and Pattie Updike
1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
-----Original Message-----
From: Elizabeth Schwartz [mailto:schwartz781 at optonline.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:57 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding Tank Discharge Through Hull
Ahoy!...and Thanks again.....I'm ordering the fittings today. It will
take some courage to drill a hole in the bottom of the boat. It will be
reminiscent of the first time I cut a hole in my roof to install a
skylight! ...Joe n Beth
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 09:54 PM, clburti at gmail.com wrote:
> I’m going from memory but, I guess that there is at least six inches
between the valve and the tank.
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> Note, the Coast Guard requires the valve be secured when in regulated
> waters. I sued a lock like those found on a desk drawer on the forward
> edge of the settee cover. a3/4” hole and you are secure. May wish to
> put a clip on the back edge.
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> Fair Winds
> Chris Burti
> Commitment
> Catalina 320, #867
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> From: Elizabeth Schwartz
> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 4:37 PM
> To: 320
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> Ahoy, and thanks......I am a new member. As to the thru hull
> location....is there enough room to slide the tank forward for
> removal? Thanks...Jo n Beth On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 01:03 PM,
> clburti at gmail.com wrote:
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>> Welcome to the group. We invite you to go the C320 IA website and
> become a member if you haven't already. http://www.catalina320.com
> There is a wealth of information available there to members.
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>> Our through hull discharge is located forward of the tank, in line
>> with the batteries with enough clearance to operate the valve lever
>> located between the valve body and the tank.
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>> Fair Winds
>> Chris Burti
>> Commitment
>> Catalina 320, #867
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>> From: Elizabeth Schwartz
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:27 PM
>> To: 320
>> Cc: 320
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>> Thanks.....I'm aware of the general location. If the holding tank
>> needs to be removed for any reason, the stem of the thru hull may
>> impact that process, if put in the way. I'm trying to decide if it
>> should go outboard of the holding tank, or forward of the right side
>> close to battery location.......Thanks....Joe
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Dick Walker wrote:
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>>> It is under the forward STBD seat
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>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Dick Walker
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado ,CA 92118
>>> 619.435.8986
>>>
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>>>
>>>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 5:43, Elizabeth Schwartz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ahoy all.....I'm new to the C 320 group. Recently purchased 1995
>>>> hull #245. Can someone send me a photo of the location of the
>>>> holding tank macerator discharge thru hull, that best allows for
>>>> holding tank removal if necessary? Also, has anyone drilled out
>>>> weep holes in the "hollow" floor grid structure? Thanks.....Joe On
>>>> Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 06:46 AM, John Meyers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Here is another hint that will reduce evaporation in the roller
>>>>> pan. Cover
>>>>> the pan with a board while rolling onto the boat. I do it with 2
>>>>> cans.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Meyers
>>>>> Muskegon MI
>>>>> Wind Chime
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:59 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com <
>>>>> tharrison at innovations-plus.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill this was excellent information. I may be able to reduce my
>>>>>> vc17 use
>>>>>> by 1 can.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When you say cover to you mean the roller. Like a 13mm split form
>>>>>> nap?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When do you change covers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted hull 424
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Bill Culbertson
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm. I'm on Lake Erie and I've put on VC17 for 13 years (6
>>>>>>> times). I
>>>>>> always use 2.5 cans. I use a roller from a pan and I don't
>>>>>> dilute. I put
>>>>>> on one coat every other year. I "prep" the surface with a wet
>>>>>> brush to get
>>>>>> loose stuff off and let it dry. The key is to do it quickly.
>>>>>> You pour a
>>>>>> very small amount (compared to if you were house painting or
>>>>>> Alblative
>>>>>> bottom painting) into the pan - maybe such that the liquid
>>>>>> extends about 3"
>>>>>> from the deepest part of the pan up toward the shallow end or
>>>>>> about 1.5 to
>>>>>> 2.0 roller widths. I use a 7" roller (I've used the recommended
>>>>>> 4" but I
>>>>>> get better results with 7"). Do not use a cheap cover. Get it
>>>>>> all onto
>>>>>> the roller quickly and evenly - 2 or 3 swipes. If the roller
>>>>>> can't hold it
>>>>>> all, then pour less next time. Then get that load onto the boat
>>>>>> quickly.
>>>>>> Getting that rollerful onto the boat takes me maybe 7 seconds or
>>>>>> so. I
>>>>>> think (from memory) that it is about 1.5 - 2.0 sq ft or so. Then
>>>>>>> repeat. I stir a lot - nearly every time I pour. Don't let any
>>>>>>> of it
>>>>>> sit in the pan for any time. What goes into the pan stays in the
>>>>>> pan for
>>>>>> only as long as it takes to get it onto the roller. For the
>>>>>> whole bottom I
>>>>>> think I tend to use about 3 covers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One other trick I started doing recently as my back started
>>>>>>> complaining
>>>>>> more the last few years :). I used to do the entire bottom front
>>>>>> to back.
>>>>>> Seemed obvious. But now-a-days I do the nose (which really has
>>>>>> no flat
>>>>>> bottom surface) and then only the flat bottom surface front to
>>>>>> back. Like
>>>>>> painting a ceiling in a crawl space I tell my friends. I use knee
>>>>>> pads and
>>>>>> am on my knees most of the time unless it is too high. I have a
>>>>>> small
>>>>>> plastic foot stool that I sit on when I can do so and still
>>>>>> reach. The
>>>>>> flat bottom part is the most uncomfortable for me. After doing
>>>>>> the entire
>>>>>> flat bottom part then I pull out the stool and do the keel which
>>>>>> is quite
>>>>>> comfortable. Then I do the rudder mostly standing which is
>>>>>> moderately
>>>>>> comfortable except for the lower part which I sometimes do
>>>>>> sitting. Now
>>>>>> comes the easy and comfortable part. I go back to the nose and
>>>>>> do the
>>>>>> sides while standing. I join the painted flat bottom part up to
>>>>>> the boot
>>>>>> stripe
>>>>>>> tape. I'm standing upright the whole time and it is quite
>>>>>>> comfortable.
>>>>>> Which is good because by that time my back is killing me from
>>>>>> doing the
>>>>>> earlier stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I used to do it all front to back, I found the area aft of
>>>>>>> the keel
>>>>>> Hell-on-wheels. First, there is a LOT of flat bottom area back
>>>>>> there and
>>>>>> second, by then I'm pretty sore already with lots of boat left to
>>>>>> paint. I
>>>>>> used to think I was halfway done when I'd gotten to the back of
>>>>>> the keel.
>>>>>> Now I don't think so given the boat shape. The new scheme
>>>>>> although odd
>>>>>> and non-intuitive has worked out really well for me and my back
>>>>>> these last
>>>>>> few times.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -bill culbertson
>>>>>>> Harmony #859
>>>>>>> Western Lake Erie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: "bkuether at comcast.net" To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:47 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Depends on the temperature and how you apply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are pouring the VC into a pan and rolling it on, I would
>>>>>>> say
>>>>>> three.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are squirting the VC onto a roller, I once did my 320
>>>>>>> with 2 but
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> was tight!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are using a pan and its hot out? 3.5 to 4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Marek Fluder
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>>>>> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The highly anticipated time is coming after the long winter...
>>>>>>> If you use VC17 on your bottom, how many cans it usually takes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Marek Fluder
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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