[C320-list] Hull prep

[Jon Vez]

This is the way to go and I plan on using this method from here on out...

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> On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:46 AM, sailorlew at aol.com wrote:
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> I paint the bottom one season, then just touch up spots the next two seasons, then repaint the entire hull the 3rd season.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Vez <Jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 9:13 am
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hull prep
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> Allan,
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> Your comment regarding commissioning hassles caught my attention! This was 
> actually a consideration for me as well. Although we did end up moving up, the 
> dread of going through this process gave me pause. It's not like a car 
> dealership where you can 'shop around'; most dealers have a monopoly on the 
> local market.
> When I went into the negotiating process, I insisted they put in writing that 
> they would be responsible for the specific issue of bottom paint not adhering. 
> They did and I also learned why this was such a prominent issue for Catalina's 
> in general, not just the 320.
> When the factory started using Vinylester exclusively, they instructed dealers 
> to only Dewax and not to scuff or sand a new bottom as there was concern that 
> this would degrade the Vinylester properties. This turned out to be bad advice 
> and hence the problem with proper adhesion.
> My new boat has had no problems with this thankfully. Interestingly enough, they 
> Soda Blasted my 320 when they took it in trade.
> One other note on this for us Northerners who tend to haul every year and apply 
> a yearly coat of Ablative. If you talk with the technical folks at the larger 
> paint manufacturers, they will tell you that a big problem is that seasonal 
> painting over a bottom that is still showing the previous seasons paint causes 
> flaking because of the weight of the copper in the paint. A holdover from the 
> days of hard paint is to slap a coat on every Spring (guilty as charged). 
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> Regards,
> Jon Vez
> C355 #17
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>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:05 PM, "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net> wrote:
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>> David - Yeah, I bought mine new in Annapolis.  I had the boat peeled down
>> about 6-7 years ago by a "pro" who then neglected to de-wax so the problem
>> continues to this day.  So it's time to bite an even bigger bullet this time
>> around!  The issue with the hull is the main reason that we have resisted
>> any thoughts of moving up as while it would be to another Catalina, it just
>> isn't worth the commissioning hassles, or lack thereof!  - Allan
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of dprudden
>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:26 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hull prep
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>> Allan,
>> I believe I had the same problem (I bought the boat used in Edgewater,
>> MD.....same original dealer as you perhaps??), The bottom paint on the hull
>> peeled off in many places, so I soda blasted to start clean after bringing
>> her up. 
>> 
>> David Prudden
>> #787
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>>>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:20 PM, "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
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>>> Just curious as to why you feel the need to soda blast down to the 
>>> hull.  My understanding is that Micron 66 is a multi-season paint that 
>>> can be stored, launched, re-stored, and re-launched without 
>>> limitation.  Interlux recommends one color of paint as the first coat 
>>> then another color for the next and subsequent coats (I do 3 every 2 
>>> years).  When you see the first coat, that's the time to repaint.  The 
>>> Interlux website has quite a bit of product info that probably would be
>> beneficial to review in detail.
>>> 
>>> That said, I am having mine soda blasted this summer only because when 
>>> the boat was originally commissioned, the boat wasn't mold de-waxed.  
>>> I have never been able to get paint to stick so am starting all over 
>>> again.  And no, the dealer would not stand behind his failure to take 
>>> responsibility for the actions of his subcontractor.
>>> 
>>> Allan S. Field
>>> Sea Shadow - #808
>>> Columbia, MD
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Peter 
>>> Sheerin
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 6:43 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Hull prep
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>>> We are about to prep our hull for anti fouling. We always use 
>>> International Micron 66. We find in our location (saltwater), that we 
>>> get about 2 - 3 years. We intend prior to our next application to take 
>>> all paint off, back to the gel coat. We have been advised that this 
>>> can be done by either sand blasting or soda blasting. Does anyone have 
>>> any experience with either method? We have heard pros and cons for 
>>> both. Peter Jaraman1096
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
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