[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 2503, Issue 1
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Wed Dec 2 18:15:09 PST 2015
Hi John,
Does this sound like our Autohelm problem?
Aloha
Trudi
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Today's Topics:
1. ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot (Dave Ouimette)
2. Re: ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot (Rod Boer)
3. Re: ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot (Dave Ouimette)
4. Re: ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot (Beverly Wright)
5. Re: ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot (Dave Ouimette)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 17:18:53 -0500
From: Dave Ouimette <drouimette at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Message-ID: <1515fa08052-301-1257c at webprd-a62.mail.aol.com>
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My ST 4000 autopilot is not working properly and I'm hoping someone has a suggestion on how to get it repaired. Raymarine no longer repairs these older units. The primary symptom is the unit will not correct to starboard when the boat drifts off course; it will correct to port. The tech at Raymarine said this is a relatively common problem and reflects failure of a transistor in the head. My boat tech checked the voltage going to the wheel drive unit and, indeed, when a port correction is needed, the voltage is adequate (about 9.4 volts), but to starboard, the voltage is only .2 volts. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Dave
Hull 174
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2015 17:55:51 -0500
From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Message-ID: <000201d12c8b$6d622580$48267080$@verizon.net>
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Hi Dave,
I have inserted some information from a previous email on the subject from
Bob Sloat which has contact information in it. I also had my ST 4000+ wheel
autopilot control head repaired by Dan Gerhardt. His price was very
reasonable.
"Mates-I just had my ST 4000+ wheel autopilot control head which Raymarine
no longer services repaired by Dan Gerhardt who was mentioned a few months
ago by a fellow C320 owner on this site. Costs vary with the amount of work
and my repair was a lot less than what Raymarine charged the last time this
unit was repaired 6 years ago. He turned it around in a few days and it is
running fine with all the original settings intact. His contact info is
c250 at mydurango.net. He is out of that great sailing community of Durango
CO! He also buys and sells autopilots and services autopilots from
Raymarine, Raytheon and Autohelm. He told me he has done other instrument
repair but with varied success. Advise dropping him a note if you have an
autopilot repair need for cost and shipping information. I don't know if he
does autopilot repairs for units that Raymarine still services.
I am not Gerhardt's agent nor is he related. I am just delighted to get the
repair done quickly in the middle of the season and saving me a lot of angst
over spending a lot of money for an upgrade replacement and the hassle of
installation a control computer along with the instrument display or taking
a chance on buying a used control head over eBay..
If your legacy autopilot control head breaks down, the alternative if you
cant't get it repaired could be well over a $1000 for a new display and
control computer or looking on eBay for a used control head which would be
cheaper. Most of the ST 4000 + control heads on eBay when I last looked
were used and cost well over twice my $150 repair cost which included
including return shipping if prepaid. While the upgraded Raymarine
autopilot is very good looking, it doesn't match the 2002 area ST60 +
instruments I have on the Nav Pod.
One thing I learned about the Raymarine ST 4000+ is that both the display
and the control computer are in the control head which is the instrument
itself. This apparently was a poor design as this is the second time it has
been repaired over 13 seasons. STKL FAIL error message is bad news on the
instrument. The newer wheel autopilots have a separate instrument and
course computer, the latter installed some where else on the boat. And you
might have to get a separate drive motor which may not be a direct
replacement for the drive motor for the 4000 + possibly requiring more holes
to drill in the Edson pedestal and maybe moving the engine instrument box a
little."
Bob Sloat
Savannah 894 (2002)
Waukegan Harbor, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 5:19 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
My ST 4000 autopilot is not working properly and I'm hoping someone has a
suggestion on how to get it repaired. Raymarine no longer repairs these
older units. The primary symptom is the unit will not correct to starboard
when the boat drifts off course; it will correct to port. The tech at
Raymarine said this is a relatively common problem and reflects failure of a
transistor in the head. My boat tech checked the voltage going to the wheel
drive unit and, indeed, when a port correction is needed, the voltage is
adequate (about 9.4 volts), but to starboard, the voltage is only .2 volts.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Dave
Hull 174
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 19:16:59 -0500
From: Dave Ouimette <drouimette at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Message-ID: <151600ca295-caf-125d7 at webprd-m72.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Rod,
Thanks for the advice. I will follow-up with Dan Gerhardt.
Dave
Hull 174
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2015 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Hi Dave,
I have inserted some information from a previous email on the subject from
Bob Sloat which has contact information in it. I also had my ST 4000+ wheel
autopilot control head repaired by Dan Gerhardt. His price was very
reasonable.
"Mates-I just had my ST 4000+ wheel autopilot control head which Raymarine
no longer services repaired by Dan Gerhardt who was mentioned a few months
ago by a fellow C320 owner on this site. Costs vary with the amount of work
and my repair was a lot less than what Raymarine charged the last time this
unit was repaired 6 years ago. He turned it around in a few days and it is
running fine with all the original settings intact. His contact info is
c250 at mydurango.net. He is out of that great sailing community of Durango
CO! He also buys and sells autopilots and services autopilots from
Raymarine, Raytheon and Autohelm. He told me he has done other instrument
repair but with varied success. Advise dropping him a note if you have an
autopilot repair need for cost and shipping information. I don't know if he
does autopilot repairs for units that Raymarine still services.
I am not Gerhardt's agent nor is he related. I am just delighted to get the
repair done quickly in the middle of the season and saving me a lot of angst
over spending a lot of money for an upgrade replacement and the hassle of
installation a control computer along with the instrument display or taking
a chance on buying a used control head over eBay..
If your legacy autopilot control head breaks down, the alternative if you
cant't get it repaired could be well over a $1000 for a new display and
control computer or looking on eBay for a used control head which would be
cheaper. Most of the ST 4000 + control heads on eBay when I last looked
were used and cost well over twice my $150 repair cost which included
including return shipping if prepaid. While the upgraded Raymarine
autopilot is very good looking, it doesn't match the 2002 area ST60 +
instruments I have on the Nav Pod.
One thing I learned about the Raymarine ST 4000+ is that both the display
and the control computer are in the control head which is the instrument
itself. This apparently was a poor design as this is the second time it has
been repaired over 13 seasons. STKL FAIL error message is bad news on the
instrument. The newer wheel autopilots have a separate instrument and
course computer, the latter installed some where else on the boat. And you
might have to get a separate drive motor which may not be a direct
replacement for the drive motor for the 4000 + possibly requiring more holes
to drill in the Edson pedestal and maybe moving the engine instrument box a
little."
Bob Sloat
Savannah 894 (2002)
Waukegan Harbor, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 5:19 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
My ST 4000 autopilot is not working properly and I'm hoping someone has a
suggestion on how to get it repaired. Raymarine no longer repairs these
older units. The primary symptom is the unit will not correct to starboard
when the boat drifts off course; it will correct to port. The tech at
Raymarine said this is a relatively common problem and reflects failure of a
transistor in the head. My boat tech checked the voltage going to the wheel
drive unit and, indeed, when a port correction is needed, the voltage is
adequate (about 9.4 volts), but to starboard, the voltage is only .2 volts.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Dave
Hull 174
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2015 00:27:41 -0500
From: "Beverly Wright" <bev.wright at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Message-ID: <04e801d12cc2$2ad36670$807a3350$@wright at verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Dave, I had the same success with Dan this past season. He is fantastic at
repairing these units and the turnaround is just a few days. My autopilot
didn't work at all and now it works perfectly save for needing calibration,
so we live with the 11 degrees off the compass/GPS on one heading until we
find the time to do the dockside and circles calibration exercises. Email
him and he'll give you simple instructions about what to send him and you
pay him after he fixes the unit.
Bev
Whoosh #15
Edgewater, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:17 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Rod,
Thanks for the advice. I will follow-up with Dan Gerhardt.
Dave
Hull 174
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2015 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Hi Dave,
I have inserted some information from a previous email on the subject from
Bob Sloat which has contact information in it. I also had my ST 4000+ wheel
autopilot control head repaired by Dan Gerhardt. His price was very
reasonable.
"Mates-I just had my ST 4000+ wheel autopilot control head which Raymarine
no longer services repaired by Dan Gerhardt who was mentioned a few months
ago by a fellow C320 owner on this site. Costs vary with the amount of work
and my repair was a lot less than what Raymarine charged the last time this
unit was repaired 6 years ago. He turned it around in a few days and it is
running fine with all the original settings intact. His contact info is
c250 at mydurango.net. He is out of that great sailing community of Durango
CO! He also buys and sells autopilots and services autopilots from
Raymarine, Raytheon and Autohelm. He told me he has done other instrument
repair but with varied success. Advise dropping him a note if you have an
autopilot repair need for cost and shipping information. I don't know if he
does autopilot repairs for units that Raymarine still services.
I am not Gerhardt's agent nor is he related. I am just delighted to get the
repair done quickly in the middle of the season and saving me a lot of angst
over spending a lot of money for an upgrade replacement and the hassle of
installation a control computer along with the instrument display or taking
a chance on buying a used control head over eBay..
If your legacy autopilot control head breaks down, the alternative if you
cant't get it repaired could be well over a $1000 for a new display and
control computer or looking on eBay for a used control head which would be
cheaper. Most of the ST 4000 + control heads on eBay when I last looked
were used and cost well over twice my $150 repair cost which included
including return shipping if prepaid. While the upgraded Raymarine
autopilot is very good looking, it doesn't match the 2002 area ST60 +
instruments I have on the Nav Pod.
One thing I learned about the Raymarine ST 4000+ is that both the display
and the control computer are in the control head which is the instrument
itself. This apparently was a poor design as this is the second time it has
been repaired over 13 seasons. STKL FAIL error message is bad news on the
instrument. The newer wheel autopilots have a separate instrument and
course computer, the latter installed some where else on the boat. And you
might have to get a separate drive motor which may not be a direct
replacement for the drive motor for the 4000 + possibly requiring more holes
to drill in the Edson pedestal and maybe moving the engine instrument box a
little."
Bob Sloat
Savannah 894 (2002)
Waukegan Harbor, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 5:19 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
My ST 4000 autopilot is not working properly and I'm hoping someone has a
suggestion on how to get it repaired. Raymarine no longer repairs these
older units. The primary symptom is the unit will not correct to starboard
when the boat drifts off course; it will correct to port. The tech at
Raymarine said this is a relatively common problem and reflects failure of a
transistor in the head. My boat tech checked the voltage going to the wheel
drive unit and, indeed, when a port correction is needed, the voltage is
adequate (about 9.4 volts), but to starboard, the voltage is only .2 volts.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Dave
Hull 174
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:06:36 -0500
From: Dave Ouimette <drouimette at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Message-ID: <15162cd3d14-4e18-137c3 at webprd-a04.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Bev,
Thanks for the positive response. I have e-mailed Dan and probably will use his services to repair our autopilot.
Dave
Hull 174
-----Original Message-----
From: Beverly Wright <bev.wright at verizon.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 12:27 am
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Dave, I had the same success with Dan this past season. He is fantastic at
repairing these units and the turnaround is just a few days. My autopilot
didn't work at all and now it works perfectly save for needing calibration,
so we live with the 11 degrees off the compass/GPS on one heading until we
find the time to do the dockside and circles calibration exercises. Email
him and he'll give you simple instructions about what to send him and you
pay him after he fixes the unit.
Bev
Whoosh #15
Edgewater, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 7:17 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Rod,
Thanks for the advice. I will follow-up with Dan Gerhardt.
Dave
Hull 174
-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Boer <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 1, 2015 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
Hi Dave,
I have inserted some information from a previous email on the subject from
Bob Sloat which has contact information in it. I also had my ST 4000+ wheel
autopilot control head repaired by Dan Gerhardt. His price was very
reasonable.
"Mates-I just had my ST 4000+ wheel autopilot control head which Raymarine
no longer services repaired by Dan Gerhardt who was mentioned a few months
ago by a fellow C320 owner on this site. Costs vary with the amount of work
and my repair was a lot less than what Raymarine charged the last time this
unit was repaired 6 years ago. He turned it around in a few days and it is
running fine with all the original settings intact. His contact info is
c250 at mydurango.net. He is out of that great sailing community of Durango
CO! He also buys and sells autopilots and services autopilots from
Raymarine, Raytheon and Autohelm. He told me he has done other instrument
repair but with varied success. Advise dropping him a note if you have an
autopilot repair need for cost and shipping information. I don't know if he
does autopilot repairs for units that Raymarine still services.
I am not Gerhardt's agent nor is he related. I am just delighted to get the
repair done quickly in the middle of the season and saving me a lot of angst
over spending a lot of money for an upgrade replacement and the hassle of
installation a control computer along with the instrument display or taking
a chance on buying a used control head over eBay..
If your legacy autopilot control head breaks down, the alternative if you
cant't get it repaired could be well over a $1000 for a new display and
control computer or looking on eBay for a used control head which would be
cheaper. Most of the ST 4000 + control heads on eBay when I last looked
were used and cost well over twice my $150 repair cost which included
including return shipping if prepaid. While the upgraded Raymarine
autopilot is very good looking, it doesn't match the 2002 area ST60 +
instruments I have on the Nav Pod.
One thing I learned about the Raymarine ST 4000+ is that both the display
and the control computer are in the control head which is the instrument
itself. This apparently was a poor design as this is the second time it has
been repaired over 13 seasons. STKL FAIL error message is bad news on the
instrument. The newer wheel autopilots have a separate instrument and
course computer, the latter installed some where else on the boat. And you
might have to get a separate drive motor which may not be a direct
replacement for the drive motor for the 4000 + possibly requiring more holes
to drill in the Edson pedestal and maybe moving the engine instrument box a
little."
Bob Sloat
Savannah 894 (2002)
Waukegan Harbor, IL
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 5:19 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] ST 4000 Autohelm autopilot
My ST 4000 autopilot is not working properly and I'm hoping someone has a
suggestion on how to get it repaired. Raymarine no longer repairs these
older units. The primary symptom is the unit will not correct to starboard
when the boat drifts off course; it will correct to port. The tech at
Raymarine said this is a relatively common problem and reflects failure of a
transistor in the head. My boat tech checked the voltage going to the wheel
drive unit and, indeed, when a port correction is needed, the voltage is
adequate (about 9.4 volts), but to starboard, the voltage is only .2 volts.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Dave
Hull 174
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