[C320-list] Perkins m 30

[Warren Updike]

Oh, of course, 3.8L is 1 Gal/US. My bad. Sorry for any confusion.

Warren and Pattie Updike
1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Rosenberg [mailto:martinlrosenberg at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 3:26 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30

The Yanmar 3GM30F uses 2.6 liters. I forgot about the .6 since I've been
buying my oil by the gallon for convenience and price. BUT 3.8 liters are
only ONE gallon, not 4. A liter is similar to a quart. It makes sense the
way you purchase it.
Since I rarely use more than 5 or 6 gallons of diesel per season, I only
change the oil and filter once at the end of the season. I'd probably
forget where I stored the other 5 gallons my second season anyway
Martin Rosenberg
Avalon  #823.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Two quarts?? Is that the spec from Yanmar? Perkins specs are 3.8 liters
> (4.01 gal/US) I usually get about 3-1/2 qts out when changing oil. I change
> the oil twice a season: once after about 50-100 hours and when winterizing
> regardless of hours. I change the filter only when winterizing.
>
> Could it be that you are not getting all the old oil out? This can be a
> problem if you are pumping through the dip stick. Unless your engine burns
> an excessive amount of oil, you should be getting about 85% of the rated
> capacity out. If you have a threaded plug in the oil pan, I've heard of
> drill/tapping the plug and inserting a barb with hose as a permanently
> installed oil drain. We Perkins owners are fortunate as this engine has an
> installed rigid tube into the oil pan for the purpose of pumping out the
> oil.
>
> So, 6 gal lasts me 3 seasons. I buy 6 because that is how it is packed at
> Sam's Club. That works out to $13/gal. At WM it's $20, Kmart $17 (prices
> incl. tax.) Not to mention that the price goes up each year. Some have said
> that I'm tighter than a duck's ass and that's water tight. Others say I'm
> so tight that I can squeeze a nickel until the Indian is riding the
> buffalo. (For you younger kids, there used to be a nickel with an Indian on
> one side and a buffalo on the other.) But, don't you believe a word of
> those criticisms. I'm just naturally frugal.
>
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Rosenberg [mailto:martinlrosenberg at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:16 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30
>
> Warren,
>   Do you really buy 6 *GALLONS* of oil at a time? I have a 2001 with the
> Yanmar engine and it uses 2 quarts that I change annually. How much oil
> does the Perkins use?
> Martin Rosenberg
> Avalon  #823
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don't know about synthetic oil restriction. In any event, DO NOT USE
> > standard oil for gas engines. Diesels require a heavy duty oil. I've
> found
> > that in auto stores the diesel oils are separated from the other oils.
> They
> > also cost more.
> > The current API code is like CJ-4/SM. You'll see this in a circle stamp
> > usually on the rear label. However, as our Perkins M-30's are now over
> two
> > decades old, the API standard back then was far lower than now.
> Therefore,
> > any HD Diesel oil you are likely to find on the market today will be
> fine.
> > I buy 10W40 Rotella T oil in six gallon box at Sam's club at about
> > $10/gal. This is about the same price as cheap diesel oil at an auto
> store.
> >
> > Warren and Pattie Updike
> > 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sailorlew at aol.com [mailto:sailorlew at aol.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:01 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30
> >
> > Eric,
> >  Thank you for your reply. I had seen a Perkins notice to not use
> > synthetic oil in their engines but I cannot seem to find it again.
> > Lew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bronwen Young <baeyoung at telus.net>
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Fri, May 29, 2015 12:28 pm
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30
> >
> >
> > Hi Lew,
> >
> >   The Perkins M30 is a pretty basic engine.  The oil that is called
> > for is APICC/SE or APICD/SE; but those are old designations.  We use
> > Castrol
> > synthetic for diesel engines 10/40W.  To fill it completely uses 3.5
> litres
> > (with filter).
> >   If the motor has a Hurth HBW 50 gear box then the fluid should
> > be ATF Type A.  He should change it often.
> >
> > There are generally four filters
> > that he should deal with.  There is a strainer on the external/cold water
> > intake.  This should be removed, cleaned and re-installed.  Second one
> is a
> > Racor 024 (probably) on the fuel line.  He needs to replace the canister
> > yearly
> > (at least, or 100 hrs), and inspect the water separator ‘glass’ after
> each
> > time
> > he adds fuel.  Drain it if he sees any water down there.
> > Third is the small
> > fuel filter that is on the aft part of the engine (yearly/100hrs).  He
> > should
> > just look at the number that is on it and get one from any auto supply
> > store.
> > Whatever brand he prefers will do.  Same thing goes for the oil filter
> > that sits
> > on the starboard side of the engine.  It is regular height but a bit
> > narrow.
> >
> > If he has to deal with injectors that are gummy, they can be removed and
> > taken
> > to an engine shop to be cleaned and reconditioned.
> > NB If he has to deal with
> > glow plugs that are faulty he MUST get Perkins genuine glow plugs.  NGK
> > will NOT
> > work!!!!!!!
> >
> > There are lots of other questions I could answer.
> >
> > Good
> > luck,
> > Eric
> >
> > Bronwen & Eric Young
> > FanaSea, #198
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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