[C320-list] seacock access

[tharrison at innovations-plus.com]

Jeff what is the impact on breaking a handle on the water? How much water will enter?  Will water only enter when you are replacing the handle? 

Ted hull 424 

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> On Jun 8, 2015, at 7:54 AM, "Jeff Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> 
> Unless it's easy enough to operate so that you can open and close it with
> just your little finger I wouldn't even consider a cable.  The handles on
> the valves we have are crap.  I've broken one in the past (out of the water
> fortunately) and there was hardly any effort, just pressing on the end.  
> 
> When I open/close them I now use a whole hand and rotate it like I'm opening
> a jar, rather than just yanking on the end of the handle because of how firm
> they are even when clean and well lubed.  The larger version of these
> thruhulls have a nice rugged handle and would be a better candidate for
> operating by cable, but I still think it needs a stronger handle for this.
> 
> -Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Warren Updike
> Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:43 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] seacock access
> 
> Defender $825 for Groco FBVE-750. Way past my threshold. 
> Jeff, what's wrong with my rotary cable connection to valve handle idea? You
> didn't give that so much as a "by your leave." (Whatever that was supposed
> to mean.) Maybe the most reasonable approach is to relocate the thru hull.
> I'm with you on reaching under the bedding. I don't need to see the valve
> either. There are more pressing issues at hand.
> 
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Hare [mailto:Catalina at thehares.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 4:25 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] seacock access
> 
> I think if you really want to solve this raw water intake valve access
> problem there are really only a few choices.
> 
> 1)  Alter the wooden cover board behind the aft engine cover so that you
> easily reach under the mattress and operate the valve without needing to
> disturb the aft cabin bed or wrestle the board out from under the aft engine
> cover.   You might even find a way to hinge the board so that you could prop
> the mattress up with it so you could access the strainer.
> 
> 2)  Change the location of the raw water intake valve.  The valve is about 4
> feet of hose away from the pump.  You could put a new thru-hull and possibly
> a larger raw water strainer under the galley sink.  "More mature" hulls like
> yours would probably have to add the access door under the nav station like
> the "less mature" hulls have.  (not that we wanna spend too much time
> talking about how your mature your hull is... :)
> 
> 3) Find some way to add an access door just aft of the rear engine cover.
> You'd probably have to Re-locate the raw water strainer.
> 
> 4) Replace the thruhull with a Groco E-Valve.
> 
> Door #1 would be the best choice in my opinion...
> 
> Yea, it's a pain but I can reach in and open/close it without needing to see
> it, so it's not risen to the level of being in need of change. 
> 
> -Jeff Hare
> #809
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Warren Updike
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 2:27 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] seacock access
> 
> Boy, I'd love to find a workable solution for this. Forespar does not have a
> catalog product but can custom make a remote operated valve for $300-400. If
> interested, contact Art Bandy, via the contact web page:
> http://www.forespar.com/support/contactUs.shtml 
> 
> I was thinking of a mechanical solution such as an actuator cable that can
> be manually operated without crawling under the bed. Perhaps a rotating
> solution such that the cable can be attached to the handle with the axis of
> the cable aligned with the axis of the valve. An issue would be the torque
> necessary to turn the handle vs the specs of the cable. Teleflex cables are
> used on our engines; but, that is a longitudinal force vs a rotating force.
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Lowe [mailto:wflowe3 at aim.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:26 AM
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] seacock access
> 
> Has anyone devised an easier way to get to the raw water seacock??
> 
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