[C320-list] Hot water tank-draining tank

Angus Henderson rathlyn1 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 9 17:04:21 PDT 2016


Alan. I am interested in your post in response to Tom's. If opening the valve at bottom of hw tank does not drain it, how do you drain for winter storage. I have always done it this way possibly mistakenly thinking I had drained the tank 
Angus
#999

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> On Aug 9, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Tom - Opening the valve at the bottom of the hot water tank does not drain
> all the water!  There is at least 1-2 gallons left. - Allan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Tom Talling
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 3:45 PM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Hot water tank
> 
> When I winterize my boat I disconnect the hot water out line and the cold
> water in line and connect them together.  Then you open up the valve at the
> bottom of the heater and let all the water run out.  Just leave it open for
> the winter.  Then when you run the pink antifreeze through it just goes
> through the lines and not the tank.  Then flush out the lines with fresh
> water in the spring and no pink fluid in the heater tank.  Saves a lot of
> pink fluid too.
> Tom Talling
> One Shot, Bohemia River #978
> 
> 
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>   1. Re: Water Heater Sacrificial Anode (Warren Updike)
>   2. Lands End (Allan S Field)
>   3. Re: Lands End (Karl Mielenhausen)
>   4. Re: C80 chart plotter issue (Daryl Hunt)
>   5. Re: Mid-ship Cleat (sail-ability sail-ability)
>   6. Re: Mid-ship Cleat (Dick Walker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:46:21 -0400
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water Heater Sacrificial Anode
> Message-ID: <COL129-DS12E16168E68D2FAE3DEB69BE1B0 at phx.gbl>
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> 
> Here are two tricks I like to use when closing the boat: 1) open a hot water
> faucet to let a fair bit of cold water into the hot water tank, this cools
> the hot water down to retard any growth of biomes that might be present; 2)
> turn off the water pump and open a faucet to let the water pressure out of
> the system. Also, we rarely use the AC element to heat water. Once heated by
> the engine it stays hot for quite a while.
> BTW, when leaving the boat, I also like to run about a bowl-full of potable
> water through the head. This helps to flush the hoses through to the tank.
> This is especially useful if you use raw water to flush the head. Since
> switching to only potable water flush and using OdorLos, we've not had a
> problem with head odors.
> 
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Vermeire [mailto:dean at vermeire.us]
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water Heater Sacrificial Anode
> 
> All,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.  I'm surprised to hear that the sacrificial anode
> could make it worse.
> 
> For now, I think I'll give it another good effort of thoroughly cleaning the
> tanks and water heater and using a new filter.  I'll also go back to blowing
> out / vacuuming out the water system at the end of the season.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Dean
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 12:14 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water Heater Sacrificial Anode
> 
> In this region, shoreside, sacrificial anodes are blamed for sulphuric
> smells and removed.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Chris Burti
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Dean Vermeire <dean at vermeire.us> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The hot water on our C320 smells bad.  I'm not sure I would call it a 
>> sulfur smell, but that wouldn't be too far off.  I have flushed the 
>> water tanks, cleaned with a bleach solution, flushed again, etc.  I do 
>> think that having put the pink antifreeze in for the winter has added 
>> to the problem.  The water at the lake where we keep our boat is 
>> undoubtedly well water, rich with minerals.  I do use a filter 
>> cartridge when I fill the tanks, but don't think I'd really want to 
>> drink
> the water anyway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have been reading a bit online, and saw references to a sacrificial 
>> anode for the water heater that sounds like it is what I need.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Do any of you have experience with this?  It looks like it just 
>> replaces the spigot on the water heater with a metal rod.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any advice is appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Dean Vermeire
>> 
>> Moonstruck II (#847)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 18:00:08 -0400
> From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Lands End
> Message-ID: <000b01d1f1c0$3a8e6380$afab2a80$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> As a value-add to the membership, we have an arrangement with Lands End for
> logo clothing.  Following is an e-mail I received today from Lands End that
> may be worth looking into.  Note that the Association receives nothing from
> this offer.  To access the 2 available logos, go to
> <http://ces.landsend.com/Catali1> http://ces.landsend.com/Catali1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You are receiving this e-mail with the details a special promotion.  We are
> offering free logo application of logos up to 16,000 stitches and free
> standard shipping on your orders placed through Friday, August 19th.When
> placing your order, please call 1-800-497-6566 and mention the promotion
> code OUT4.  This offer may also be used on our website.  Promotional
> products do not qualify for this special offer.   Thanks again and we would
> love to hear from you!
> 
> 
> 
> Allan S. Field
> 
> Secretary/Treasurer
> 
> Catalina 320 International Association
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 18:29:21 -0400
> From: Karl Mielenhausen <kmielen at gmail.com>
> To: C320IA Discussion List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lands End
> Message-ID:
> <CAFoR0_P0u7CS_aU=A0q3+Q8BojAGk=--=Nyo96fAzg=7LzKWgA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> It can be a bear to navigate their website.
> This link might help...
> https://business.landsend.com/store/catali1/
> 
> 
> 
> Karl
> 
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> As a value-add to the membership, we have an arrangement with Lands 
>> End for logo clothing.  Following is an e-mail I received today from 
>> Lands End that may be worth looking into.  Note that the Association 
>> receives nothing from this offer.  To access the 2 available logos, go 
>> to <http://ces.landsend.com/Catali1> http://ces.landsend.com/Catali1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You are receiving this e-mail with the details a special promotion.  
>> We are offering free logo application of logos up to 16,000 stitches 
>> and free standard shipping on your orders placed through Friday, 
>> August 19th.When placing your order, please call 1-800-497-6566 and 
>> mention the promotion code OUT4.  This offer may also be used on our 
>> website.  Promotional
>> products do not qualify for this special offer.   Thanks again and we 
>> would
>> love to hear from you!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Allan S. Field
>> 
>> Secretary/Treasurer
>> 
>> Catalina 320 International Association
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 18:44:49 -0400
> From: Daryl Hunt <drhunt at rochester.rr.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C80 chart plotter issue
> Message-ID: <1aofwt4ap7wf0gq3o5g4ebb9.1470696289043 at email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Jeff!
> regards,?Daryl
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Jeff Z <jeffzinselmeyer at hotmail.com>
> Date: 8/6/16  5:01 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list]  C80 chart plotter issue
> 
> I have the same plotter, and last summer mine started with the distorted
> display, which then led to complete blank screen. I shipped to Raymarine for
> diagnosis, expecting the worst. I got a call from the tech there and he said
> its a common problem, repair was under $200 including return shipping. He
> also stated they repair it in a way which will prevent the same problem from
> happening again. I was extremely pleased with the service and how quick i
> had the unit back.
> See the raymarine website for shipping instructions.
> Jeff ZinselmeyerEscape - 934
> 
>  ?? ?
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 11:15:24 -0400 (EDT)
> From: sail-ability sail-ability <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: jbrown5093 <jbrown5093 at yahoo.com>, c320-list <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mid-ship Cleat
> Message-ID:
> <319066032.18031.1470755724810.JavaMail.open-xchange at mtlgui01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> 
>   I got my cleats from Garhauer and they are different lengths for the
>   top and bottom tracks. Garhauer knows this.
> 
>   JohnM
> 
>   1999#574
> 
>     ---------- Original Message ----------
>     From: jbrown5093 at yahoo.com
>     Date: July 26, 2016 at 4:33 PM
>     I have seen 320s where different track cleats wouldn't fit on the
>     upper track that is recessed. Into the cabin top. The problem isn't
>     with the width of the track but with the length. If just a hair too
>     long you can't get the cleat to slide on because it wont "fit" in
>     the space between the end of the track and the beginning of the
>     recess. My shaffers do fit but another brand (ronstan maybe) won't
>     go on. On another boat even the shaffers wouldn't slip on. So if you
>     plan to use them on both tracks try before you buy.
>     Great tip on stopping the hunting at anchor, Chris. Can't wait to
>     try it.
>     Jim Brown
>     Sent from my iPad
>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Scott Westwood
>>     <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> FWIW. I measured my jib track ('98 # 517) a couple of days ago and
>     it was 1-1/4 ".
>> Leaning even more now to track-run cleats. Still reviewing
>     though..... Would prefer cleat on gunnel ridge under life line but
>     may not be practical (worth the effort).
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538 C
>     (919)-618-7185
>> 
>> From: Beverly Wright <bev.wright at verizon.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mid-ship Cleat
>> 
>> I have two track cleats that are different from each other, can't
>     recall the brands, one came from the other owner and I bought one.
>     They are a great choice because they can be removed when racing and
>     cruising (they have caught the lines on occasion) and moved along
>     the track for spring lines when rafting to other boats or at
>     marinas. I had not thought about attaching a 1/4" line to the pin
>     but I'm definitely doing that because it provides something to hold
>     on to when removing them. I almost had one go overboard as it was
>     being removed. I haven't had the issue that Commitment has, but I
>     will keep that trick in mind if we find that happening at anchor.
>> 
>> My tracks are 1 1/4" per the diagram in the manual
>> 
>> Bev Wright
>> s/v Whoosh
>> Edgewater, MD
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
>     On Behalf Of Chris Burti
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:05 PM
>> To: 320
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mid-ship Cleat
>> 
>> I have both (two Garhauer and one Schaefer) and prefer the
>     Schaefer. Adding a loop of 1/4" line to the pin made far more
>     useful. I move it from side to side, forward and aft on the tracks
>     and up and down from the Genoa track to the jib track on the cabin
>     top. This proved farm re effective in setting spring lines at the
>     multitude of docks we experienced on our cruise.
>> 
>> In addition, Commitment sails like a drunken bat when at anchor in
>     any wind over 5 knots. Using a rolling hitch to tie a spring line
>     from the anchor rode to a mid-ship cleat set well forward moderates
>     that tendency greatly.
>> 
>> Chris Burti
>> Farmville, NC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Stephen Cox <scox at timmin.com>
>>     wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Don't mount one get the Garhauer that fits on the track
>>> 
>>> Personally think the Schaefer equivalent is a nicer cleat. It
>     looks
>>> more in keeping with the other cleats on the boat, has no
>     protrusion
>>> on top to catch lines either. Defender sell them.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Stephen Cox
>>> Tegwen #1141
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 08:25:07 -0700
> From: Dick Walker <dickwalker at att.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mid-ship Cleat
> Message-ID: <9E50C1C6-14A2-405B-ADD3-18F9A03D8DB2 at att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> For the regatta Garhauer is giving a 10% discount, no tax and free shipping
> 
> Now is the time to buy.  Until 12 September
> 
> Call them and you can quote the c-320 regatta discount
> 
> This covers anything in their catalogue
> 
> Call me if you have any questions.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Dick Walker
> Regatta Chair
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado ,CA 92118
> 619.435.8986
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 08:15, sail-ability sail-ability 
>> <sail-ability at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>  I got my cleats from Garhauer and they are different lengths for the
>>  top and bottom tracks. Garhauer knows this.
>> 
>>  JohnM
>> 
>>  1999#574
>> 
>>    ---------- Original Message ----------
>>    From: jbrown5093 at yahoo.com
>>    Date: July 26, 2016 at 4:33 PM
>>    I have seen 320s where different track cleats wouldn't fit on the
>>    upper track that is recessed. Into the cabin top. The problem isn't
>>    with the width of the track but with the length. If just a hair too
>>    long you can't get the cleat to slide on because it wont "fit" in
>>    the space between the end of the track and the beginning of the
>>    recess. My shaffers do fit but another brand (ronstan maybe) won't
>>    go on. On another boat even the shaffers wouldn't slip on. So if you
>>    plan to use them on both tracks try before you buy.
>>    Great tip on stopping the hunting at anchor, Chris. Can't wait to
>>    try it.
>>    Jim Brown
>>    Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Jul 26, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Scott Westwood
>>>    <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> FWIW. I measured my jib track ('98 # 517) a couple of days ago and
>>    it was 1-1/4 ".
>>> Leaning even more now to track-run cleats. Still reviewing
>>    though..... Would prefer cleat on gunnel ridge under life line but
>>    may not be practical (worth the effort).
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538 C
>>    (919)-618-7185
>>> 
>>> From: Beverly Wright <bev.wright at verizon.net>
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:50 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mid-ship Cleat
>>> 
>>> I have two track cleats that are different from each other, can't
>>    recall the brands, one came from the other owner and I bought one.
>>    They are a great choice because they can be removed when racing and
>>    cruising (they have caught the lines on occasion) and moved along
>>    the track for spring lines when rafting to other boats or at
>>    marinas. I had not thought about attaching a 1/4" line to the pin
>>    but I'm definitely doing that because it provides something to hold
>>    on to when removing them. I almost had one go overboard as it was
>>    being removed. I haven't had the issue that Commitment has, but I
>>    will keep that trick in mind if we find that happening at anchor.
>>> 
>>> My tracks are 1 1/4" per the diagram in the manual
>>> 
>>> Bev Wright
>>> s/v Whoosh
>>> Edgewater, MD
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
>>    On Behalf Of Chris Burti
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:05 PM
>>> To: 320
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mid-ship Cleat
>>> 
>>> I have both (two Garhauer and one Schaefer) and prefer the
>>    Schaefer. Adding a loop of 1/4" line to the pin made far more
>>    useful. I move it from side to side, forward and aft on the tracks
>>    and up and down from the Genoa track to the jib track on the cabin
>>    top. This proved farm re effective in setting spring lines at the
>>    multitude of docks we experienced on our cruise.
>>> 
>>> In addition, Commitment sails like a drunken bat when at anchor in
>>    any wind over 5 knots. Using a rolling hitch to tie a spring line
>>    from the anchor rode to a mid-ship cleat set well forward moderates
>>    that tendency greatly.
>>> 
>>> Chris Burti
>>> Farmville, NC
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Stephen Cox <scox at timmin.com>
>>>    wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't mount one get the Garhauer that fits on the track
>>>> 
>>>> Personally think the Schaefer equivalent is a nicer cleat. It
>>    looks
>>>> more in keeping with the other cleats on the boat, has no
>>    protrusion
>>>> on top to catch lines either. Defender sell them.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Stephen Cox
>>>> Tegwen #1141
>> 
> 
> 
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