[C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
Hank LeSieur
hankles at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jul 9 12:32:29 PDT 2016
I would not recommend FX Sails. I purchased a 135 from them a little over 3 years ago. After one year I noticed problems with the uv cover. I spent the next 2 years trying to speak to someone but with no success. They wouldn't return phone calls, emails, etc.
Hank LeSieur
Camelot #331
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> 1. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art)
> 2. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Graeme Clark)
> 3. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (sailorlew at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art Harden)
> 5. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (John Meyers)
> 6. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art Harden) (JZ)
> 7. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Crosby Roper)
> 8. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Pat Ireland)
> 9. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Ken)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 15:02:15 -0400
> From: "Art" <Artstree at aol.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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> Thanks Bill I will check them out. I saw their name when I googled for a
> sail loft, but North was closer to Sandusky in Vermilion.
>
> Art Harden
> Tortuga -Catalina 320
> 937-477-5544
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Hutt
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:29 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>
> Art,
>
> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the
> quality is fine.
>
> Bill Hutt
> "Caribbean Soul" #570
> Cleveland Ohio
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that
> the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and
> I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has
> anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>
>> Art Harden
>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 21:15:33 +0100
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <971958F7-6BCB-498D-9E00-44FAE0D4AA23 at skyflyer.co.uk>
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> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
> Graeme
> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>
> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>
>
>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:25:51 -0400
> From: sailorlew at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <155cc301637-7481-1a4ab at webprd-a30.mail.aol.com>
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> If you will be using Dacron for your new sails read this article which shows the difference in the grades of Dacron available. If you're making the investment it pays to get one of the better grades.
> Lew
> http://macksails.com/sail-cloth/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 4:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>
> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
> Graeme
> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>
> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>
>
>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:50:39 -0400
> From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <F4933316-873A-4339-8E7D-3D6B755E412D at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> That is a good thought. I may see what I can do. I know the north sails a good but I am not sure they are $3k good. At leas t for the sailing I am doing. I like to race but don't think I would go Mylar. I just enjoy getting from point a to b.
>
> Art Harden
> Tortuga Catalina 320
> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
>> Graeme
>> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>>
>> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>>
>>
>>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Art,
>>>
>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>>
>>> Bill Hutt
>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>
>>>> Art Harden
>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 20:20:58 -0400
> From: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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> Bill wrote that he paid 1700 for a decent sail. I paid the same amount 2
> years ago custom made locally to match the old one. Quality is very good.
>
> John Meyers
> #406 Wind Chime
> Muskegon, MI
>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> That is a good thought. I may see what I can do. I know the north sails a
>> good but I am not sure they are $3k good. At leas t for the sailing I am
>> doing. I like to race but don't think I would go Mylar. I just enjoy
>> getting from point a to b.
>>
>> Art Harden
>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the
>> advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit
>> your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off
>> manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just
>> repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
>>> Graeme
>>> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>>>
>>> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Art,
>>>>
>>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700
>> and the quality is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Hutt
>>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me
>> that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995
>> sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900.
>> Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Harden
>>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 17:25:50 -0700
> From: "JZ" <jeffzinselmeyer at hotmail.com>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib (Art
> Harden)
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> I Purchased a new main sail and 150 genoa from FX sails, extremely good
> price. Ive had the sails about 1.5 years now and they are fantastic. I even
> won a weekend regatta with them. I was hesitant to not use a local loft but
> the price was just to low to pass. I opted for the tri-radial design, well
> worth it, great shape and should hold their shape for years to come.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 06:39:58 -0700
> From: Crosby Roper <vmdatsea at hotmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <SNT406-EAS389E88BEA951D410EA8B9D7D23D0 at phx.gbl>
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> 150 Genoa from Catalina direct(Ullman) for about $2700. Dacron, foam luff.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 08:38:48 -0700
> From: Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID:
> <CAB3EGms_c2S=JT-SGWuMn8ie60RA0KA38dNSneuJK=8W5YpbaA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Take a look at the Hood Vektron offering. It's not a solution for all
> budgets, but the fabric does cover a broad range of sailing applications
> and is good value for the cruiser who would rather not be passed by all the
> race boats. We came by our suit from the previous owner and are quite
> happy with them. Also consider the offerings of your small local lofts.
> We purchased a self tacking jib from the same loft that built our first
> self tacker in the 80s. The Millimeter fleet we sail with has been
> supported by a similar loft for years. Not a bad way to buy American. One
> of the advantages that you have with a Catalina design is the standard off
> the shelf solutions that continue to be offered for reasonable prices.
> With all these excellent choices, we can have it just about any way we
> want. Not a bad way to put money into that hole in the water we slave to
> keep floating. Fair winds. Sail safe. Pat
>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Crosby Roper <vmdatsea at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 150 Genoa from Catalina direct(Ullman) for about $2700. Dacron, foam luff.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Art,
>>>
>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and
>> the quality is fine.
>>>
>>> Bill Hutt
>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me
>> that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995
>> sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900.
>> Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>
>>>> Art Harden
>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
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>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:49:00 -0400
> From: Ken <kspir4 at cox.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <AD9F00C6-19FA-4F62-8E03-FCBBA357C6AC at cox.net>
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> Art,
> I concur w Guy regarding Chuck O'Malley and his crew at chesapeake sail makers. When I bought an asymmetrical from him, he was very customer oriented and priced fairly. He even traveled to Solomon's from Annapolis to do a sea trial to demonstrate how to rig and use the sail.
> Ken Spiro
> MoonDancer
> 2006 / #1089
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Guy Smith <smitski2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Art,
>> I just had a new Jenny built by Chesapeake Sail Makers this spring. I love it.It has awesome shape/performance fully deployed and it roller reefs with a beautiful draft for those 20+ knot days.Call and ask for Chuck O'Malley. I believe it came in about $2K.He also cut my original Main to be loose-footed so I can flatten the bag out of it better and I'm very happy with that also. They're great guys. Very knowledgeable. Chuck gives seminars to the ARC groups on sail technology.Tell him Guy Smith recommended them. (He'll probably say "Who?" ...I may get a discount on my next sail work! ;-)
>> I got quotes from North for a new Jenny, the Main work and a new Asym (which I ended up getting from Precision Sails),and they were consistently $1K higher than other sail lofts when comparing Apples to Apples, on the Jenny and Asym. Now I don't do serious racing with Pleiades, so I don't need something fancy, just a good working sail for the Chesapeake Bay that will last.
>> Fair winds,~g
>> Guy Smithsv PleiadesC320 #452Worton Creek, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
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