[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 2668, Issue 1
David Birken
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Sun Jul 10 13:59:32 PDT 2016
Thanks Bill! Do you recall if heating element is 120 volt?
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art Harden)
2. Looking for information on a new jib (Hank LeSieur)
3. Re: Annapolis marinas (Onat Dogruer)
4. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Robert Dean)
5. Re: Annapolis marinas (Onat Dogruer)
6. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Amiraults Family)
7. I'm in hot water ....or not (David Birken)
8. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art Harden)
9. FLEX- O- FOLD PROPELLOR (sail-ability sail-ability)
10. Re: I'm in hot water ....or not (Bill Lowe)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:24:33 -0400
From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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You guys have given me very helpful information. I will summarize all of the comments and make my decision. At least now I am much more well informed. In general it sounds as though north is $1000 more than anyone else. I like the thought of buy American.
Thanks again and keep the comments coming.
Art Harden
Tortuga Catalina 320
937-477-5544 (m)
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Ken <kspir4 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Art,
> I concur w Guy regarding Chuck O'Malley and his crew at chesapeake sail makers. When I bought an asymmetrical from him, he was very customer oriented and priced fairly. He even traveled to Solomon's from Annapolis to do a sea trial to demonstrate how to rig and use the sail.
> Ken Spiro
> MoonDancer
> 2006 / #1089
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Guy Smith <smitski2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Art,
>> I just had a new Jenny built by Chesapeake Sail Makers this spring. I love it.It has awesome shape/performance fully deployed and it roller reefs with a beautiful draft for those 20+ knot days.Call and ask for Chuck O'Malley. I believe it came in about $2K.He also cut my original Main to be loose-footed so I can flatten the bag out of it better and I'm very happy with that also. They're great guys. Very knowledgeable. Chuck gives seminars to the ARC groups on sail technology.Tell him Guy Smith recommended them. (He'll probably say "Who?" ...I may get a discount on my next sail work! ;-)
>> I got quotes from North for a new Jenny, the Main work and a new Asym (which I ended up getting from Precision Sails),and they were consistently $1K higher than other sail lofts when comparing Apples to Apples, on the Jenny and Asym. Now I don't do serious racing with Pleiades, so I don't need something fancy, just a good working sail for the Chesapeake Bay that will last.
>> Fair winds,~g
>> Guy Smithsv PleiadesC320 #452Worton Creek, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 14:32:29 -0500
From: Hank LeSieur <hankles at sbcglobal.net>
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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I would not recommend FX Sails. I purchased a 135 from them a little over 3 years ago. After one year I noticed problems with the uv cover. I spent the next 2 years trying to speak to someone but with no success. They wouldn't return phone calls, emails, etc.
Hank LeSieur
Camelot #331
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> 1. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art)
> 2. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Graeme Clark)
> 3. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (sailorlew at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art Harden)
> 5. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (John Meyers)
> 6. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Art Harden) (JZ)
> 7. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Crosby Roper)
> 8. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Pat Ireland)
> 9. Re: Looking for information on a new jib (Ken)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 15:02:15 -0400
> From: "Art" <Artstree at aol.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <011601d1d94b$3e8fc880$bbaf5980$@aol.com>
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>
> Thanks Bill I will check them out. I saw their name when I googled for a
> sail loft, but North was closer to Sandusky in Vermilion.
>
> Art Harden
> Tortuga -Catalina 320
> 937-477-5544
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Bill Hutt
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:29 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>
> Art,
>
> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the
> quality is fine.
>
> Bill Hutt
> "Caribbean Soul" #570
> Cleveland Ohio
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that
> the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and
> I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has
> anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>
>> Art Harden
>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 21:15:33 +0100
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <971958F7-6BCB-498D-9E00-44FAE0D4AA23 at skyflyer.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
> Graeme
> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>
> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>
>
>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:25:51 -0400
> From: sailorlew at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <155cc301637-7481-1a4ab at webprd-a30.mail.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> If you will be using Dacron for your new sails read this article which shows the difference in the grades of Dacron available. If you're making the investment it pays to get one of the better grades.
> Lew
> http://macksails.com/sail-cloth/
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 8, 2016 4:15 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>
> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
> Graeme
> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>
> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>
>
>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 16:50:39 -0400
> From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <F4933316-873A-4339-8E7D-3D6B755E412D at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> That is a good thought. I may see what I can do. I know the north sails a good but I am not sure they are $3k good. At leas t for the sailing I am doing. I like to race but don't think I would go Mylar. I just enjoy getting from point a to b.
>
> Art Harden
> Tortuga Catalina 320
> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
>> Graeme
>> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>>
>> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>>
>>
>>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Art,
>>>
>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>>
>>> Bill Hutt
>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>
>>>> Art Harden
>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 20:20:58 -0400
> From: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID:
> <CANEXtrJ8YY+Ek9X2K41HD7TVO-eDxqA=_j_CPBe_=1WOX_UHvA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Bill wrote that he paid 1700 for a decent sail. I paid the same amount 2
> years ago custom made locally to match the old one. Quality is very good.
>
> John Meyers
> #406 Wind Chime
> Muskegon, MI
>
>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> That is a good thought. I may see what I can do. I know the north sails a
>> good but I am not sure they are $3k good. At leas t for the sailing I am
>> doing. I like to race but don't think I would go Mylar. I just enjoy
>> getting from point a to b.
>>
>> Art Harden
>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> I will be buying a new Genoa too, at the end of this season and the
>> advice I have had from fellow sailors is whoever you use, get them to visit
>> your boat and talk with you about what you want from the sail. Buying off
>> manufactures dimensions alone seems to give some people problems. Just
>> repeating what I've been told -don't shoot the messenger.
>>> Graeme
>>> #366, 1996 -original headsail!
>>>
>>> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 18:28, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Art,
>>>>
>>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700
>> and the quality is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Hutt
>>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me
>> that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995
>> sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900.
>> Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>>
>>>>> Art Harden
>>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 17:25:50 -0700
> From: "JZ" <jeffzinselmeyer at hotmail.com>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib (Art
> Harden)
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> I Purchased a new main sail and 150 genoa from FX sails, extremely good
> price. Ive had the sails about 1.5 years now and they are fantastic. I even
> won a weekend regatta with them. I was hesitant to not use a local loft but
> the price was just to low to pass. I opted for the tri-radial design, well
> worth it, great shape and should hold their shape for years to come.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 06:39:58 -0700
> From: Crosby Roper <vmdatsea at hotmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <SNT406-EAS389E88BEA951D410EA8B9D7D23D0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> 150 Genoa from Catalina direct(Ullman) for about $2700. Dacron, foam luff.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 08:38:48 -0700
> From: Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID:
> <CAB3EGms_c2S=JT-SGWuMn8ie60RA0KA38dNSneuJK=8W5YpbaA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Take a look at the Hood Vektron offering. It's not a solution for all
> budgets, but the fabric does cover a broad range of sailing applications
> and is good value for the cruiser who would rather not be passed by all the
> race boats. We came by our suit from the previous owner and are quite
> happy with them. Also consider the offerings of your small local lofts.
> We purchased a self tacking jib from the same loft that built our first
> self tacker in the 80s. The Millimeter fleet we sail with has been
> supported by a similar loft for years. Not a bad way to buy American. One
> of the advantages that you have with a Catalina design is the standard off
> the shelf solutions that continue to be offered for reasonable prices.
> With all these excellent choices, we can have it just about any way we
> want. Not a bad way to put money into that hole in the water we slave to
> keep floating. Fair winds. Sail safe. Pat
>
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 6:39 AM, Crosby Roper <vmdatsea at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 150 Genoa from Catalina direct(Ullman) for about $2700. Dacron, foam luff.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 10:29 AM, Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Art,
>>>
>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and
>> the quality is fine.
>>>
>>> Bill Hutt
>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me
>> that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995
>> sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900.
>> Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>
>>>> Art Harden
>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 11:49:00 -0400
> From: Ken <kspir4 at cox.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
> Message-ID: <AD9F00C6-19FA-4F62-8E03-FCBBA357C6AC at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Art,
> I concur w Guy regarding Chuck O'Malley and his crew at chesapeake sail makers. When I bought an asymmetrical from him, he was very customer oriented and priced fairly. He even traveled to Solomon's from Annapolis to do a sea trial to demonstrate how to rig and use the sail.
> Ken Spiro
> MoonDancer
> 2006 / #1089
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Guy Smith <smitski2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Art,
>> I just had a new Jenny built by Chesapeake Sail Makers this spring. I love it.It has awesome shape/performance fully deployed and it roller reefs with a beautiful draft for those 20+ knot days.Call and ask for Chuck O'Malley. I believe it came in about $2K.He also cut my original Main to be loose-footed so I can flatten the bag out of it better and I'm very happy with that also. They're great guys. Very knowledgeable. Chuck gives seminars to the ARC groups on sail technology.Tell him Guy Smith recommended them. (He'll probably say "Who?" ...I may get a discount on my next sail work! ;-)
>> I got quotes from North for a new Jenny, the Main work and a new Asym (which I ended up getting from Precision Sails),and they were consistently $1K higher than other sail lofts when comparing Apples to Apples, on the Jenny and Asym. Now I don't do serious racing with Pleiades, so I don't need something fancy, just a good working sail for the Chesapeake Bay that will last.
>> Fair winds,~g
>> Guy Smithsv PleiadesC320 #452Worton Creek, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net>
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>>
>> Art,
>>
>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>
>> Bill Hutt
>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>> Cleveland Ohio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
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> ******************************************
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 19:43:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Onat Dogruer <onat_s at yahoo.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Annapolis marinas
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Thanks Doug! We are only familiar with Annapolis downtown and since we are new to the area, we want to be within walking distance of activity when we are at dock; just for the remainder of the season until we get the lay of the land.? Hence leaning towards Spa Creek or Back Creek for a month or two.? After that, we will look into other areas where we can go to from DC area back and forth.?
Over the years, while still working, we have been lucky to be able to carve out time to cruise to Boston, to Nantucket, to Block Is. etc. It was a rare occasion to run into another 320.? I have a feeling it will be just the opposite in Chesapeake and I look forward to running into fellow 320s!
From: Doug Treff <doug at treff.us>
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Annapolis marinas
Hello Onat,
Where will your home be located - or are you liveaboards? Those of us
who are locals may have some suggestions that may be near to your home.
You'll LOVE sailing on the Chesapeake Bay! Annapolis is definitely the
place to be, especially for sailors. However, keep in mind that it is
one of the MOST expensive places on the Chesapeake because of that very
reason. I do not have a specific recommendation because I keep my boat
about 20 miles north of Annapolis.
In addition to downtown Annapolis locations, also consider marinas on
South River, which is just a 10 minute drive from DownTown and may be
more reasonably priced.
The only marina I've had any experience with in Annapolis is Bert
Jabin's (where my boat was when I bought her) and they are top notch.
The only down side to Jabins is that it is not in Downtown Annapolis,
however, you can get over there via the water taxi if you want. Plenty
of services all in house and you can be out on the bay in minutes.
--
Doug Treff
doug at treff.us
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016, at 04:24 PM, Onat Dogruer wrote:
> Hi all,
> We are moving from NYC to DC area.? We are new to Chesapeake and would
> like to stay in Annapolis area for the time being.? We plan to sail down
> later in July and I would like to get a sense as to where folks keep
> their boats and marina recommendations in Annapolis. I have looked into
> ActiveCaptain and other sources but would welcome your
> suggestions/recommendations.?
>
> Thank you all,-OnatS/V Kittiwake
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 19:44:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Dean <robrtdean at yahoo.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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I bought a new 155 from Chuck O'Malley at Chesapeake sailmakers Annapolis at the boat show last fall.A friend of mine who went with me to the show also bought a 150 for his Cal 31. My sail is a miter cut and his is a crosscut. Both sails turned out real nice. Chuck's prices were on par with the other sailmakers at the show.I bought sails from Chuck for my last boat a ?Catalina 27 they were very good sail with excellent performance. He makes very good sails and stands behind them.
Bob DeanJust Chillin 550Worton Creek ?Md
From: Ken <kspir4 at cox.net>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
Art,
I concur w Guy regarding Chuck O'Malley and his crew at chesapeake sail makers.? When I bought an asymmetrical from him, he was very customer oriented and priced fairly.? He even traveled to Solomon's from Annapolis to do a sea trial to demonstrate how to rig and use the sail.
Ken Spiro
MoonDancer
2006? /? #1089
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Guy Smith <smitski2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hey Art,
> I just had a new Jenny built by Chesapeake Sail Makers this spring. I love it.It has awesome shape/performance fully deployed and it roller reefs with a beautiful draft for those 20+ knot days.Call and ask for Chuck O'Malley. I believe it came in about $2K.He also cut my original Main to be loose-footed so I can flatten the bag out of it better and I'm very happy with that also. They're great guys. Very knowledgeable. Chuck gives seminars to the ARC groups on sail technology.Tell him Guy Smith recommended them. (He'll probably say "Who?"? ...I may get a discount on my next sail work! ;-)
> I got quotes from North for a new Jenny, the Main work and a new Asym (which I ended up getting from Precision Sails),and they were consistently $1K higher than other sail lofts when comparing Apples to Apples, on the Jenny and Asym. Now I don't do serious racing with Pleiades, so I don't need something fancy, just a good working sail for the Chesapeake Bay that will last.
> Fair winds,~g
> Guy Smithsv PleiadesC320 #452Worton Creek, MD
>
>
>
>? ? ? From: Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>
> Art,
>
> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>
> Bill Hutt
> "Caribbean Soul" #570
> Cleveland Ohio
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>
>> Art Harden
>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 19:47:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Onat Dogruer <onat_s at yahoo.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Annapolis marinas
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Thanks! I did hear about Port Annapolis Marina as well.? I hear that one could take water taxi back and forth, however apparently water taxi has 4 person minimum to take you there.? I was told one could take a dinghy across to Eastport side and walk across.? I will look into Jabins Boatyard. - Onat
From: Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Annapolis marinas
In Annapolis itself I like Port Annapolis Marina, and Jabins Boatyard,
both on Back Creek. But there are lots of good options, none
inexpensive. The Catalina 320 rendezvous was at Port Annapolis a few
years ago, and I was sufficiently impressed that we now take our boat
there for winter haulout and service, even though other marinas are
closer to our mooring on the Magothy.
On 7/6/2016 4:24 PM, Onat Dogruer wrote:
> Hi all,
> We are moving from NYC to DC area.? We are new to Chesapeake and would like to stay in Annapolis area for the time being.? We plan to sail down later in July and I would like to get a sense as to where folks keep their boats and marina recommendations in Annapolis. I have looked into ActiveCaptain and other sources but would welcome your suggestions/recommendations.
>
> Thank you all,-OnatS/V Kittiwake
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 15:53:44 -0400
From: "Amiraults Family" <amiraults at sympatico.ca>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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Art:
Where I live there is no local sail maker. First sail I bought was for the
previous boat, and I dealt with an enterprise several hours away which took
orders to be manufactured offshore. I did careful measurements, was sure of
the accuracy, and ordered a main and cover. The main had to be recut by the
vendor as it proved too long and the cover was too small and the vendor made
another.
For Bear I went to the local-to-my-area representative of Doyle Sails. He
too takes the order and the sail is made elsewhere, but in Canada. The local
rep comes to your boat and discusses your wants/needs, explains the options
available and recommends based on your circumstance and his experience. He
then measures for the sail and places the order. When the sail arrives he
brings it to the boat and rigs it with you.
My first sail was a 135%. A couple of years later I added a new main with
StackPac. The process was the same for both. In the Great White North boats
are hauled and masts come down for the endless winters. That next spring I
could not recall the details for setting up the StackPac. I called the local
Doyle rep and he arrived at the boat and aided in the reinstall, without
charge (I then took photos). Both sails were high quality Dacron and both
radial cut. I race (poorly), and this appeared to be the best balance of
performance, longevity, and price for my budget. And everything fit first
time.
This is not an endorsement for Doyle Sails. It is a recommendation that you
purchase as locally as your budget will allow. Your money boosts an economy
closer to home for the benefit of all. You also benefit more directly by
both increasing the chances that your hard earned money spent will yield
what you really want, that it will fit first time, and that you will have
post-purchase product support.
Just sayin';
Brian Amirault
797 Waltzing Bear, too
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 21:23:08 +0000
From: David Birken <davebirken at hotmail.com>
To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com"
<c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] I'm in hot water ....or not
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The breaker for our hot water heater keeps blowing. Below the sink is a big grey metal box that is the heater but I have no idea how to approach this problem? When I reset breaker, it will heat water for about 30-60 sec before switching off again. Water is hot if running engine. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this? Time to replace? It's original ( I believe) on our 1996 C320
Thanks
Dave
#341
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 17:32:46 -0400
From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
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I just realized if I pick the Chesapeake sail makers then I would have to make a trip the the bay and visit Annapolis. My favorite port on the bay. I don't need much of an excuse to go there. Lol
Art Harden
Tortuga Catalina 320
937-477-5544 (m)
> On Jul 9, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>
> You guys have given me very helpful information. I will summarize all of the comments and make my decision. At least now I am much more well informed. In general it sounds as though north is $1000 more than anyone else. I like the thought of buy American.
>
> Thanks again and keep the comments coming.
>
> Art Harden
> Tortuga Catalina 320
> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
>> On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Ken <kspir4 at cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> Art,
>> I concur w Guy regarding Chuck O'Malley and his crew at chesapeake sail makers. When I bought an asymmetrical from him, he was very customer oriented and priced fairly. He even traveled to Solomon's from Annapolis to do a sea trial to demonstrate how to rig and use the sail.
>> Ken Spiro
>> MoonDancer
>> 2006 / #1089
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Guy Smith <smitski2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Art,
>>> I just had a new Jenny built by Chesapeake Sail Makers this spring. I love it.It has awesome shape/performance fully deployed and it roller reefs with a beautiful draft for those 20+ knot days.Call and ask for Chuck O'Malley. I believe it came in about $2K.He also cut my original Main to be loose-footed so I can flatten the bag out of it better and I'm very happy with that also. They're great guys. Very knowledgeable. Chuck gives seminars to the ARC groups on sail technology.Tell him Guy Smith recommended them. (He'll probably say "Who?" ...I may get a discount on my next sail work! ;-)
>>> I got quotes from North for a new Jenny, the Main work and a new Asym (which I ended up getting from Precision Sails),and they were consistently $1K higher than other sail lofts when comparing Apples to Apples, on the Jenny and Asym. Now I don't do serious racing with Pleiades, so I don't need something fancy, just a good working sail for the Chesapeake Bay that will last.
>>> Fair winds,~g
>>> Guy Smithsv PleiadesC320 #452Worton Creek, MD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Bill Hutt <bhutt at windstream.net>
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Looking for information on a new jib
>>>
>>> Art,
>>>
>>> Here in Cleveland I use Sobstat sails. His out comes in around $1700 and the quality is fine.
>>>
>>> Bill Hutt
>>> "Caribbean Soul" #570
>>> Cleveland Ohio
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 11:43 AM, Art Harden <artstree at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I took my jib to the sail loft for some repairs and they advised me that the sail was due for replacement. It looks to be the original 1995 sail and I agree with him. The quote I got from North sails is about $2900. Has anyone purchased the sale recently from another sailmaker?
>>>>
>>>> Art Harden
>>>> Tortuga Catalina 320
>>>> 937-477-5544 (m)
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 19:27:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: sail-ability sail-ability <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] FLEX- O- FOLD PROPELLOR
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I have bought and installed a 16x11RH 2blade folding propellor on
Luffin Life. I have significant vibration issues between 1300 and
1800RPM; lower and higher RPMs are not an issue; no vibrations at all
in reverse.. Anyone had a similar experience? FLEX O FOLD assures me
that the props leave the factory with blades perfectly balanced and
same weights. I believe this to be true as I'd get vibration in reverse
if that was the problem. The cutless bearing was determined to be
serviceable prior to installation and all 4 engine mounts have been
inspected and found to be sound. I've gone below to inspect during a
vibration event and the engine, tranny and prop shaft are not
vibrating, the noise and vibrations are coming from outside the boat in
the prop area. I like how the prop works and have noticed increased
boat speed in low winds, which I expected. thoughts?
JohnM
1999#574 Luffin Life
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:17:00 -0400
From: Bill Lowe <wflowe3 at aim.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] I'm in hot water ....or not
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See my photos on the web page (bill lowes album). They take you through the replacement of a faulty heater element.
Bill Lowe
wflowe3 at aim.com
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From: David Birken <davebirken at hotmail.com>
To: c320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 4:23 pm
Subject: [C320-list] I'm in hot water ....or not
The breaker for our hot water heater keeps blowing. Below the sink is a big grey metal box that is the heater but I have no idea how to approach this problem? When I reset breaker, it will heat water for about 30-60 sec before switching off again. Water is hot if running engine. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot this? Time to replace? It's original ( I believe) on our 1996 C320
Thanks
Dave
#341
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