[C320-list] Lewmar port leaks

Troy Dunn troutwarrior at gmail.com
Mon Jul 18 16:56:34 PDT 2016


Yep, those are covers.  Find a plastic toothpick or some other non metal
prying device on there, an eyeglass screwdriver works well for prying but
might ding up the plastic.

On Monday, July 18, 2016, Jamie Pett <JPett at jp2architects.com> wrote:

> Thank you Troy.
>
>  I didn't realize those were 'covers' on the latch. Mine look like one
> piece although there is a circular groove.  I will try it- assume the cover
> just prices off with a small knife blade ?
>
> I tried to post a small video of the leak but guess there is a pretty
> small size limit on attachments.
>
> Thanks everyone again for the help. I will let the list know of my success
> or not......and if I resort to full replacement.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 18, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Oops....you need the full web address for that site
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/boat_projects
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Monday, July 18, 2016, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jamie
> >>
> >> There is a screw under a cover on the inside of the dog latch.   Unscrew
> >> the two pieces and you will find the oring on the outside piece.   Takes
> >> about a minute to unscrew, clean, replace the oring.  I replaced the
> orings
> >> on the cockpit windows and that seemed to fix a couple of small leaks
> >> there, but nothing like you are describing.   The orings can be had for
> $6
> >> or $7 on Amazon for a bag of 10.   They are 12mm ID and 2mm thick.  OD
> is
> >> hence 16mm.  Generally they are specified by ID and thickness.   If this
> >> works for you that would be fantastic.
> >>
> >> If like me...you have to replace the portlight I want to second that you
> >> will need more butyl tape around the curves than the straightaways.   I
> >> found that 2 passes of flat tape around the whole fixture and then a
> third
> >> pass over the curved parts (rounded?) did the trick.   If you want to
> err,
> >> err on too much, not to little.   Clean up is a snap.   Make sure you
> visit
> >> Mainsails web site and see his write up there for installing portlights
> >> using bed it...very good.   pbase.com    Actually if you are the handy
> >> type take a good look at that web site it is packed with a lot of great
> >> info.    Full time cruisers seem to swear by bed it.
> >>
> >> Troy
> >>
> >> On Monday, July 18, 2016, Jamie Pett <JPett at jp2architects.com
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','JPett at jp2architects.com <javascript:;>');>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Warren  - Don't think my other message to you came through - I had a
> >>> small video of the offending leak attached to it.
> >>>
> >>> Having done what you suggest below a couple weeks ago, and having the
> >>> inner plastic frames removed, I am pretty confident the water is coming
> >>> through right at the latch itself, so I am interested in your 'O' ring
> >>> solution.
> >>>
> >>> How do you get the latch apart ? I can't see any fasteners on mine.  I
> >>> have what Lewmar calls the 'old style' portlights, so I suspect it is
> >>> exactly the same as yours...
> >>>
> >>> Is the 'O' ring on the exterior of the plexi lens ?
> >>>
> >>> I wrote to Lewmar and so far no response.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks - Jamie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jamie Pett
> >>> Bella Luna #614
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> <javascript:;>] On
> >>> Behalf Of Warren Updike
> >>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 1:32 PM
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lewmar port leaks
> >>>
> >>> FYI re port light gasket on older 320s. My understanding is that the
> >>> gasket showing in the two slots of the external ring is actually part
> of
> >>> the whole gasket that seals the frame. Because it is exposed to the
> Sun, it
> >>> deteriorates over time. Many of us have solved the problem by tearing
> out
> >>> that visible part of the gasket and filling with a material like
> LifeCalk.
> >>> LifeCalk, like most boat adhesives, can be messy to work with. When I
> did
> >>> our port slots, I lined all four edges of each slot with masking tape,
> then
> >>> applied the (black) adhesive smoothing it out with a soft plastic
> scraper
> >>> (don't know the name, also used for smoothing boat names when
> applying.)
> >>> Once cured, and the tape removed, it looked quite good... professional
> even.
> >>> That was 4-5 years ago and still looks good and remains watertight.
> >>>
> >>> Warren and Pattie Updike
> >>> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> >>> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Jamie Pett [mailto:JPett at jp2architects.com <javascript:;>]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:30 PM
> >>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lewmar port leaks
> >>>
> >>> Ted - thanks. I re- caulked  those and unfortunately it didn't solve
> the
> >>> problem. Did what you suggested - used a small flat screwdriver and
> pulled
> >>> out the old material - you called it a gasket but I think is was a
> putty on
> >>> my boat- then re-caulked them. I used Boatlife, which was a mistake as
> it
> >>> was hard to work with but still formed a good seal.  Nevertheless ,
> still
> >>> have one window leaking right at the latches.
> >>>
> >>> Warren may be on to something if there is a bad o ring at the latch
> that
> >>> would explain it.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 5:19 PM, "tharrison at innovations-plus.com
> <javascript:;>"
> >>>> <tharrison at innovations-plus.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The window comes in two parts, a top and a bottom. Between the top and
> >>>> bottom right at the connection points on both sides there is a gasket.
> >>>> One on each side. You have to dig this out with a pick. I worked on
> >>>> this for
> >>> two
> >>>> years trying to stop the window leaks. Then a wise gentleman (Jeff)
> >>>> told
> >>> me
> >>>> about the gaskets
> >>>>
> >>>> It is most likely the source of your leak. It takes about 30 minutes
> >>>> per window to clean, tape and fill. Let dry for a few hours and I am
> >>>> done with my leaks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ted
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> <javascript:;>] On
> >>>> Behalf Of Jamie Pett
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 4:29 PM
> >>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lewmar port leaks
> >>>>
> >>>> Ted - not sure what gasket you mean ? I recalled the small horizontal
> >>> seams
> >>>> on the window frame bit have not re- bedded the entire window. The
> >>>> water looks like it is entering at the latch.  -J
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 2:02 PM, "tharrison at innovations-plus.com
> <javascript:;>"
> >>>>> <tharrison at innovations-plus.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I had the same problem and Jeff provided my answer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you remove the gasket between the two half window frame. I pull
> >>>>> this out and sealed with 4200 and not a leak this year at all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ted
> >>>>> Hull 424 1997
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> <javascript:;>] On
> >>>>> Behalf Of Jamie Pett
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 1:58 PM
> >>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Lewmar port leaks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Help! I know there are a number of posts and I read as many as I
> >>>>> could find re the operable ports leaking. I have thoroughly cleaned
> >>>>> the glass
> >>>> and
> >>>>> cleaned the seals with Armoural.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have re-caulked the exterior small horizontal seams in the frames.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have removed the inner plastic frame covers and tightened all the
> >>>>> mounting screws.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My port side  remains leaking, mostly the aft port light.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The leaks seem to be right at the dog or bolt that holds the port
> >>>>> light closed. The dog seems tight and secure and I cannot figure out
> >>>>> even how to remove it and check it further.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any insight is appreciated. It rained hard last night and I got
> >>>>> easily a pint of water through this light, soaked the port settee,
> >>>>> the locker cover etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks - Jamie
> >>>>> Bella Luna # 614
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>


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