[C320-list] 1995 Fuel Tank Replacement
Barry Parker
bparkeresq at aol.com
Tue Sep 26 22:43:24 PDT 2017
Jim, I recently replaced my fuel tank on my '95 Hull 224. Jeff Hare emailed me the details on where to order the replacement tank with pointers. I'll do the same for you in a day or two and include some pics. All went without a hitch. Technically, not difficult, but the tight spaces doesn't make it easy to maneuver around.
Barry Parker
Fogdog #224
Half Moon Bay, CA
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1. Fuel Tank (jimc320 at aol.com)
2. Re: Close call CHECK THIS! (Scott Thompson)
3. Re: Fuel Tank (GREG SUTTON)
4. Re: Close call CHECK THIS! (Bruce Hunter)
5. Re: Close call CHECK THIS! (Greg Flanagan)
6. Re: Close call CHECK THIS! (Graeme Clark)
7. Re: Close call CHECK THIS! (Bruce Hunter)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:49:56 -0400
From: jimc320 at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Fuel Tank
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Has anyone gained access to or replaced the fuel tank in a 1995 ( Hull 209).
I am having a Fuel issue in that it gets stopped and there by stopping the engine. This has happened twice in less than a year. And as you would guess, it happens at the worse possible time. ( 100 yards up current from a bridge, Going out the inlet....)
Any thoughts would be appreciated
Jim
C320 209
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:15:12 -0400
From: Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Close call CHECK THIS!
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I think you misread the diagram. You would need to remove more than
those screws to bring the mast down. The furler assembly itself does not
support the mast. The forestay inside of it supports the mast, and is
attached to the boat independently via a turnbuckle and toggles.
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> On 9/25/2017 10:46 AM, Bruce Hunter wrote:
> Hi Everyone,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I figure I'd should pass this along. Last week when anchoring my wife discovered a screw laying on the anchor bracket/track that leads from the chain locker to the bow. It was one of 4 screws that hold the Schaeffer 2100 roller furling's drum housing to the torque tube, 2 of the screws were loose and one was missing. Looking at the parts diagram these 4 screws are what holds the whole lower assembly together meaning we came VERY CLOSE to a dismasting! I tightened the 2 screws, replaced the 3rd and will be buying the 4th today 1/4-20 x 5/8 according to the parts diagram. Of course they will ALL be getting blue Lock-tight.
> Bruce HunterNauti Time #719
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:55:48 +0000
From: GREG SUTTON <sutt47 at msn.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel Tank
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I just did that procedure last winter after reading all the horror stories about leaking fuel tanks and having a touchy sending unit. Really is was pretty easy to do on Liberty (1994 #128).
* Burn up as much fuel as possible or suction it out the fill port.
* Remove the wood shelves in the starboard locker (a lot of screws)
* Disconnect the wires and hoses. (not a easy task in the small space
* Remove the strap the holds down the tank.
* If your tank was like mine there wasn?t an inspection port so you have to man handle the tank around so you can get to the fuel gauge sending unit and remove that. (more small screws)
* I bought one of the battery powered hand suction pumps ($15) which can reach into the very lower corner of the tank and suction out any remaining fuel.
* Once the tank is empty it is pretty light and although it is a very tight fit it can be removed through the seat hatch opening.
* Funny thing is Liberty is located up on Lake Ontario and the fit was so tight I could get it out in the warm fall but had to wait until it was warm again in the spring again to get it to go back in.
The only real problem was hanging into in the rear storage locker or actually getting down into the space underneath to disconnect all the wires and hoses. I am 6 ft. 4 inches an it was a really tight squeeze.
Greg
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From: jimc320 at aol.com<mailto:jimc320 at aol.com>
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To: C320-List at Catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Fuel Tank
Has anyone gained access to or replaced the fuel tank in a 1995 ( Hull 209).
I am having a Fuel issue in that it gets stopped and there by stopping the engine. This has happened twice in less than a year. And as you would guess, it happens at the worse possible time. ( 100 yards up current from a bridge, Going out the inlet....)
Any thoughts would be appreciated
Jim
C320 209
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:24:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
To: "surprise at thompson87.com" <surprise at thompson87.com>,
"C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Close call CHECK THIS!
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I probably did then, I only got a quick look at it on my phone. It's good to know that wasn't as crucial as I thought. I guess I better look at it on my computer! Thanks for the correction!
Bruce.
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On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Scott Thompson<surprise at thompson87.com> wrote: I think you misread the diagram. You would need to remove more than
those screws to bring the mast down. The furler assembly itself does not
support the mast. The forestay inside of it supports the mast, and is
attached to the boat independently via a turnbuckle and toggles.
> On 9/25/2017 10:46 AM, Bruce Hunter wrote:
> Hi Everyone,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I figure I'd should pass this along. Last week when anchoring my wife discovered a screw laying on the anchor bracket/track that leads from the chain locker to the bow. It was one of 4 screws that hold the Schaeffer 2100 roller furling's drum housing to the torque tube, 2 of the screws were loose and one was missing. Looking at the parts diagram these 4 screws are what holds the whole lower assembly together meaning we came VERY CLOSE to a dismasting! I tightened the 2 screws, replaced the 3rd and will be buying the 4th today 1/4-20 x 5/8 according to the parts diagram. Of course they will ALL be getting blue Lock-tight.
> Bruce HunterNauti Time #719
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 18:24:38 -0600 (MDT)
From: Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Close call CHECK THIS!
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I agree with Scott. I had the problem under sail. The small screws fell out. A crew member had to go forward and manually unfurl the jib. There is no consequence to the forestay. On my furler the small screws went into a tapped thread that stripped. I got slightly longer screws, drilled out the tap and put on lock washers and nuts. There is just enough room for this fix to clear if the tiny bolts (screws) are kept as short as possible to add the nuts. Did this 5 years ago and no problems since.
Greg Flanagan
Hoop Dancer #1076
Sidney, BC
> On Sep 25, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I probably did then, I only got a quick look at it on my phone. It's good to know that wasn't as crucial as I thought. I guess I better look at it on my computer! Thanks for the correction!
> Bruce.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Scott Thompson<surprise at thompson87.com> wrote: I think you misread the diagram. You would need to remove more than
> those screws to bring the mast down. The furler assembly itself does not
> support the mast. The forestay inside of it supports the mast, and is
> attached to the boat independently via a turnbuckle and toggles.
>
>
>> On 9/25/2017 10:46 AM, Bruce Hunter wrote:
>> Hi Everyone, I figure I'd should pass this along. Last week when anchoring my wife discovered a screw laying on the anchor bracket/track that leads from the chain locker to the bow. It was one of 4 screws that hold the Schaeffer 2100 roller furling's drum housing to the torque tube, 2 of the screws were loose and one was missing. Looking at the parts diagram these 4 screws are what holds the whole lower assembly together meaning we came VERY CLOSE to a dismasting! I tightened the 2 screws, replaced the 3rd and will be buying the 4th today 1/4-20 x 5/8 according to the parts diagram. Of course they will ALL be getting blue Lock-tight.
>> Bruce HunterNauti Time #719
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:59:40 +0100
From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Close call CHECK THIS!
Message-ID: <48616B77-0AAE-45BC-9ED5-A0AD86D5D54F at skyflyer.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
If you want something to worry about in the forestay department (!) check for cracking in the stemhead fitting where the furler attaches to the bow
There's an article on this with photos I placed on our website. It's a design flaw and has caused failure on several Catalinas not just the 320
Basically it's called corrosion cracking and it starts (often) where the edge of a weld has left a microscopic notch in the parent metal
It's a really difficult area to inspect too because it is between bottom of furler drum and the deck!
Graeme
#366, Jaskar
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> On 26 Sep 2017, at 01:24, Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> I agree with Scott. I had the problem under sail. The small screws fell out. A crew member had to go forward and manually unfurl the jib. There is no consequence to the forestay. On my furler the small screws went into a tapped thread that stripped. I got slightly longer screws, drilled out the tap and put on lock washers and nuts. There is just enough room for this fix to clear if the tiny bolts (screws) are kept as short as possible to add the nuts. Did this 5 years ago and no problems since.
>
>
> Greg Flanagan
> Hoop Dancer #1076
> Sidney, BC
>
>> On Sep 25, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I probably did then, I only got a quick look at it on my phone. It's good to know that wasn't as crucial as I thought. I guess I better look at it on my computer! Thanks for the correction!
>> Bruce.
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Scott Thompson<surprise at thompson87.com> wrote: I think you misread the diagram. You would need to remove more than
>> those screws to bring the mast down. The furler assembly itself does not
>> support the mast. The forestay inside of it supports the mast, and is
>> attached to the boat independently via a turnbuckle and toggles.
>>
>>
>>> On 9/25/2017 10:46 AM, Bruce Hunter wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone, I figure I'd should pass this along. Last week when anchoring my wife discovered a screw laying on the anchor bracket/track that leads from the chain locker to the bow. It was one of 4 screws that hold the Schaeffer 2100 roller furling's drum housing to the torque tube, 2 of the screws were loose and one was missing. Looking at the parts diagram these 4 screws are what holds the whole lower assembly together meaning we came VERY CLOSE to a dismasting! I tightened the 2 screws, replaced the 3rd and will be buying the 4th today 1/4-20 x 5/8 according to the parts diagram. Of course they will ALL be getting blue Lock-tight.
>>> Bruce HunterNauti Time #719
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:14:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
To: "cg at skyflyer.co.uk" <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>,
"C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Close call CHECK THIS!
Message-ID: <1909965300.10106140.1506420883148 at mail.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Graeme, I'll check it out!?
Bruce.
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On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Graeme Clark<cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote: If you want something to worry about in the forestay department (!) check for cracking in the stemhead fitting where the furler attaches to the bow
There's an article on this with photos I placed on our website. It's a design flaw and has caused failure on several Catalinas not just the 320
Basically it's called corrosion cracking and it starts (often) where the edge of a weld has left a microscopic notch in the parent metal
It's a really difficult area to inspect too because it is between bottom of furler drum and the deck!
Graeme
#366, Jaskar
Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
> On 26 Sep 2017, at 01:24, Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> I agree with Scott. I had the problem under sail. The small screws fell out. A crew member had to go forward and manually unfurl the jib. There is no consequence to the forestay. On my furler the small screws went into a tapped thread that stripped. I got slightly longer screws, drilled out the tap and put on lock washers and nuts. There is just enough room for this fix to clear if the tiny bolts (screws) are kept as short as possible to add the nuts. Did this 5 years ago and no problems since.
>
>
> Greg Flanagan
> Hoop Dancer #1076
> Sidney, BC
>
>> On Sep 25, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I probably did then, I only got a quick look at it on my phone. It's good to know that wasn't as crucial as I thought. I guess I better look at it on my computer! Thanks for the correction!
>> Bruce.
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Scott Thompson<surprise at thompson87.com> wrote:? I think you misread the diagram. You would need to remove more than
>> those screws to bring the mast down. The furler assembly itself does not
>> support the mast. The forestay inside of it supports the mast, and is
>> attached to the boat independently via a turnbuckle and toggles.
>>
>>
>>> On 9/25/2017 10:46 AM, Bruce Hunter wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I figure I'd should pass this along. Last week when anchoring my wife discovered a screw laying on the anchor bracket/track that leads from the chain locker to the bow. It was one of 4 screws that hold the Schaeffer 2100 roller furling's drum housing to the torque tube, 2 of the screws were loose and one was missing. Looking at the parts diagram these 4 screws are what holds the whole lower assembly together meaning we came VERY CLOSE to a dismasting! I tightened the 2 screws, replaced the 3rd and will be buying the 4th today 1/4-20 x 5/8 according to the parts diagram. Of course they will ALL be getting blue Lock-tight.
>>> Bruce HunterNauti Time #719
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>
>>
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