[C320-list] Restricted hot water to galley sink
Allan S. Field
allan.field at verizon.net
Mon Mar 26 05:20:50 PDT 2018
As for the "significant restriction" you describe when trying to push water through the line when flushing the tank, there is an inline, one-way anti-siphon valve in-line at the top of the tank. I am wondering if you are trying to push against that... If you have not taken the valve out, do so and try again with the flush.
I would then recommend first ensuring that the filter at the water pump is cleaned out. If you feel that you have to remove the tank then thoroughly flush it out as lots of sediment builds up over the years, especially from the bits of plastic that fell into the water tanks as Catalina did the cutouts on the top of the tanks for access ports. That said, I can't imagine a situation where you'd have so much crud in the tank that it would clog the tank like you are describing; 6 gallons of crud doesn't make sense to me. My sense is that your hot water line is clogged somewhere along the run but since you are seeing the same thing from the head and cockpit shower, again, I would start at the filter at the pump then work your way towards the hot water heater to the hot water outlet line from the hot water heater. Removing the tank is not a job for the faint of heart so I would recommend making that a last step.
Allan S. Field
allan.field at verizon.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Sara Skinner Schroeder <saras951 at comcast.net>
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Sent: Sun, Mar 25, 2018 11:45 pm
Subject: [C320-list] Restricted hot water to galley sink
Thanks for the suggestions! I checked the flow of the hot water and cold water in the head and the cockpit shower. The conditions were the same - fine for cold and restricted for hot.
I removed the drawers and under sink frame (thank you for whoever suggested that!) and tried to flush the hot water tank. There was a significant restriction on the hose trying to push water through the tank. When I undid everything and ran the hot water again the pump struggled to prime itself yet primed right away when running cold water.
The hot water tank is 18 years old so I’ve surmised that there is gunk (aka: rust) in the tank clogging things up so am going to replace the hot water tank entirely.
Thanks all - love the C320 Assn!
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> 1. Re: Restricted hot water to galley sink (Chuck Mueller)
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> 3. Old Instruments and Autopilot for sale (John Ellis)
> 4. Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268 (Cliff Lee)
> 5. Re: Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268 (Chris Burti)
> 6. Re: Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268 (P.F. Ross)
> 7. Re: Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268 (Welch, Myron D)
> 8. Re: Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268 (Ted Harrison)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 16:54:30 -0400
> From: "Chuck Mueller" <katchu at chartermi.net>
> To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Restricted hot water to galley sink
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> Sara - I had a similar problem a few years ago. It turned out that sediment
> from the water tanks had clogged the aerator on the galley sink faucet.
> Removed it, cleaned, and problem solved. Now I remove the aerator when I
> flush the tanks every year.
>
> In your case the cold water is fine, but the hot water is not flowing. If
> you are getting good hot water flow in the head, then it is probably
> something in the galley fixture or a kink in the hot water line.
>
> Chuck Mueller
> Northwind #676 2000
> Holland, MI
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 10:17:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Sara Skinner Schroeder <saras951 at comcast.net>
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Restricted hot water to galley sink
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> This is my first post as a Catalina owner (Wandering Star hull #707 built in
> 2000). The cold water flow at the galley sink is fine. However, the hot
> water flow is restricted and getting worse. It's nothing more than a dribble
> now. I read through the discussions and discovered I can disassemble the
> drawers and frame to get at the hoses but before I go through all that I
> thought I'd see if anyone has ideas to try first. Thanks!!
>
> Sara
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:39:02 -0500
> From: Christian <ccaper at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bomar hatch
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> Ted,
> I replaced my Bromar lens on my salon hatch last fall. It's fairly
> straight forward.
>
> I bought my replacement lens and sealant from Catalina Direct. I opted not
> to replace the gasket at the time. In hindsight, I wish I would have as
> the gasket is best replaced when you put the new sealant in.
>
> I think the job is best done off the boat. So you'll need to remove the
> top hatch from the bottom hatch. Remove the screws on the hinge. But be
> careful doing so, as 2 of mine were badly seized and one of the two was
> completely frozen. Had to drill them out. If you removed the screws
> mounting the bottom batch to the deck, it will have to be rebedded. I used
> a piece of cardboard wrapped in 2 layers of trash bags and taped it down to
> seal the opening while replacing lens. We had some good rain for the week+
> time it was off, along with a little snow. Held like a champ.
>
> Just cut the lens out of the sealant with a sharp blade, but mind those
> fingers. Then scrape every possible bit of old sealant out! Curing new
> sealant takes about 2 days. I used the Catalina Direct instructions of
> using the back side of a spoon to smooth the sealant, and got a very clean,
> smooth edge on my sealant. Just tape up your frame well before hand, and
> it will REALLY make the job look better in the end.
>
> Budget 2 hours to remove top hatch. 1-2 hours to cut out lens. 3-4 hours
> to remove old sealant. 2 hours to set new lens with new sealant. 2 days
> to cure. 1 hour to remount.
>
> Strongly suggest anti seize on your hatch screws when you put it back in.
> My screws were stainless, the hatch is aluminum, so, dissimilar metals.
>
> If you'd like to see some pics of my steps, I have them at:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5U6a0DNCv/
> https://www.instagram.com/p/Bb5VYpPjtyN/
>
> Note, each link has series of pics, hovering over image will give you
> arrows to see the other pics in the series.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions, happy to help where I can.
>
> Christian Caperton
> 1994 C320 "Canuck" #138
> Monroe Harbor, Chicago, IL
>
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 6:55 PM, John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> Ted I just removed the centre hatch on my boat as it was also leaking, I?m
>> buying a new lens from Fort Glass, as the old one had several cracks in it.
>> I?m also going thicker, 10mm, as the 1/4? lens is not strong enough in my
>> opinion. I took the hatch right off the boat and cut around the lens into
>> the caulking with a box cutter; it then came out fairly easily and then I
>> scraped out the rest of the caulk. I?m going to use dow Corning 795 which
>> Catalina recommends.
>> Regards
>> JohnM
>>> On Mar 23, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Ted Harrison <tharrison at innovations-plus.
>> com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This hatch is located at the bow of the boat and leaks. I have remove
>> the hatch and have it home.
>>>
>>> It looks like the lens just sits on this rubber gasket. They have
>> separated on one corner and down about 10 inches in each direction. No
>> wonder it leaks.
>>>
>>> How do I pull the lens completely off and re-seal? With what product ?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> Hull 424
>>> Whitby On
>>>
>>> Ted Harrison
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:38:43 +0000
> From: John Ellis <jr_ellis100 at hotmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Old Instruments and Autopilot for sale
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> I?ve replaced my instruments and autopilot and have the following for sale:
>
> ? Autohelm ST50 speed, depth and wind instruments
>
> ? Autohelm ST4000 Wheel Autopilot
>
> ? Raymarine ST4000+ autopilot control head and fluxgate compass (both never installed or used)
>
> Please contact me off list if you are interested.
>
> John #271
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:09:08 -0400
> From: Cliff Lee <rcliffordlee at gmail.com>
> To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com TtS"
> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
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> After much consideration, I bit the bullet and bought a Rocna 15 to replace
> my CQR. I had seen past C320 list discussions about the likelihood that
> the anchor roller bail would be too small for early C320 models and indeed
> it is about 1" too short to fit the Rocna shank. No problem to buy a
> taller bail. However, I was surprised to find that the anchor roller
> itself is so short that the tip of the anchor in the secured position
> overlaps and lies up against the bow by at least 3-4". I had not seen that
> issue on previous discussions. I am wondering if I have an unusually short
> anchor roller. Mine is a Windline model and is about 20" from tip to tip,
> with the roller hub itself about 3" from the tip of the assembly. Any
> thoughts out there about whether I need a longer anchor roller, the length
> of your rollers (and your hull number), or other solutions? At this point,
> I'm afraid I may have to return the anchor. Even if I can protect the hull
> against the anchor tip, it will still bang against the hull and drive us
> crazy. Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
>
> Cliff Lee
> Comfort Zone - 1995 Hull 268
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:18:13 -0400
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
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> Catalina extended the anchor roller on later models? you might want to look at the Mantus Anchor Mate.
>
> https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-anchor-mate/
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Burti
> Commitment #867
> Farmville, NC
>
> From: Cliff Lee
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:09 PM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com TtS
> Subject: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
>
> After much consideration, I bit the bullet and bought a Rocna 15 to replace
> my CQR. I had seen past C320 list discussions about the likelihood that
> the anchor roller bail would be too small for early C320 models and indeed
> it is about 1" too short to fit the Rocna shank. No problem to buy a
> taller bail. However, I was surprised to find that the anchor roller
> itself is so short that the tip of the anchor in the secured position
> overlaps and lies up against the bow by at least 3-4". I had not seen that
> issue on previous discussions. I am wondering if I have an unusually short
> anchor roller. Mine is a Windline model and is about 20" from tip to tip,
> with the roller hub itself about 3" from the tip of the assembly. Any
> thoughts out there about whether I need a longer anchor roller, the length
> of your rollers (and your hull number), or other solutions? At this point,
> I'm afraid I may have to return the anchor. Even if I can protect the hull
> against the anchor tip, it will still bang against the hull and drive us
> crazy. Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
>
> Cliff Lee
> Comfort Zone - 1995 Hull 268
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:54:28 -0400
> From: "P.F. Ross" <pfrstl at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
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> Hi, Cliff,
>
> Interesting. My roller is also a Windline model and is about 20" overall
> length. However, my recently installed Rocna 15 seems to fit without the
> tip hitting the bow of the boat. I also did not need to change the bail.
> Here is a pic:
>
> https://c320.org/mediagallery/media.php?f=0&sort=0&s=20180218215623929
>
> This pic was taken immediately after I had installed the anchor and now,
> after some use, the anchor snuggles closer to the boat but there is still
> 2" of clearance between the anchor tip and bow. Maybe I am just not
> stowing the anchor all the way back to the "crook" in the shank, if that
> makes sense. Still seems plenty secure to me.
>
> I was ready to go with the Anchor Mate if needed but so far doesn't seem
> necessary.
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank Ross
> Beta Wave #206
> Naples, FL
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 9:18 PM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Catalina extended the anchor roller on later models? you might want to
>> look at the Mantus Anchor Mate.
>>
>> https://www.mantusmarine.com/mantus-anchor-mate/
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Burti
>> Commitment #867
>> Farmville, NC
>>
>> From: Cliff Lee
>> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:09 PM
>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com TtS
>> Subject: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
>>
>> After much consideration, I bit the bullet and bought a Rocna 15 to replace
>> my CQR. I had seen past C320 list discussions about the likelihood that
>> the anchor roller bail would be too small for early C320 models and indeed
>> it is about 1" too short to fit the Rocna shank. No problem to buy a
>> taller bail. However, I was surprised to find that the anchor roller
>> itself is so short that the tip of the anchor in the secured position
>> overlaps and lies up against the bow by at least 3-4". I had not seen that
>> issue on previous discussions. I am wondering if I have an unusually short
>> anchor roller. Mine is a Windline model and is about 20" from tip to tip,
>> with the roller hub itself about 3" from the tip of the assembly. Any
>> thoughts out there about whether I need a longer anchor roller, the length
>> of your rollers (and your hull number), or other solutions? At this point,
>> I'm afraid I may have to return the anchor. Even if I can protect the hull
>> against the anchor tip, it will still bang against the hull and drive us
>> crazy. Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
>>
>> Cliff Lee
>> Comfort Zone - 1995 Hull 268
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2018 02:29:34 +0000
> From: "Welch, Myron D" <myron-welch at uiowa.edu>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
> Message-ID: <FB3D3441-83E9-43FA-BB76-F71762CD483C at uiowa.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Cliff,
>
> Several years ago I replaced the old shorter anchor roller on my 1995, #238, with a longer Windline model to fit my Bruce 33. The change was quite easy.
>
> Myron Welch
> Wind Instrument #238
> Iowa City, Iowa
> Grace Memorial Harbor
> Elk Rapids, Michigan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Cliff Lee <rcliffordlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> After much consideration, I bit the bullet and bought a Rocna 15 to replace
>> my CQR. I had seen past C320 list discussions about the likelihood that
>> the anchor roller bail would be too small for early C320 models and indeed
>> it is about 1" too short to fit the Rocna shank. No problem to buy a
>> taller bail. However, I was surprised to find that the anchor roller
>> itself is so short that the tip of the anchor in the secured position
>> overlaps and lies up against the bow by at least 3-4". I had not seen that
>> issue on previous discussions. I am wondering if I have an unusually short
>> anchor roller. Mine is a Windline model and is about 20" from tip to tip,
>> with the roller hub itself about 3" from the tip of the assembly. Any
>> thoughts out there about whether I need a longer anchor roller, the length
>> of your rollers (and your hull number), or other solutions? At this point,
>> I'm afraid I may have to return the anchor. Even if I can protect the hull
>> against the anchor tip, it will still bang against the hull and drive us
>> crazy. Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
>>
>> Cliff Lee
>> Comfort Zone - 1995 Hull 268
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2018 23:20:56 -0400
> From: Ted Harrison <tharrison at innovations-plus.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rocna 15 Anchor Fit on Early C320s - Hull 268
> Message-ID:
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>
> I just purchased the Ronca 15.
>
> I am wondering if if will have the same issue .
>
> What size and steps to replace the roller?
>
>
> Ted Harrison
>
>> On Mar 24, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Cliff Lee <rcliffordlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> After much consideration, I bit the bullet and bought a Rocna 15 to replace
>> my CQR. I had seen past C320 list discussions about the likelihood that
>> the anchor roller bail would be too small for early C320 models and indeed
>> it is about 1" too short to fit the Rocna shank. No problem to buy a
>> taller bail. However, I was surprised to find that the anchor roller
>> itself is so short that the tip of the anchor in the secured position
>> overlaps and lies up against the bow by at least 3-4". I had not seen that
>> issue on previous discussions. I am wondering if I have an unusually short
>> anchor roller. Mine is a Windline model and is about 20" from tip to tip,
>> with the roller hub itself about 3" from the tip of the assembly. Any
>> thoughts out there about whether I need a longer anchor roller, the length
>> of your rollers (and your hull number), or other solutions? At this point,
>> I'm afraid I may have to return the anchor. Even if I can protect the hull
>> against the anchor tip, it will still bang against the hull and drive us
>> crazy. Thanks for any guidance you can offer.
>>
>> Cliff Lee
>> Comfort Zone - 1995 Hull 268
>
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