[C320-list] Thoughts on Raising Main was Thoughts on Sails

[Chris Burti]

I found that there is no white residue with Sailkote, it is labeled as safe for sails and there is residue with the big box ptfe dry lubricants and I am unsure of how the carrier fluid will react to my sails…Big can lasts for years.

Thanks,
Chris Burti
Commitment, #867
Farmville, NC

From: Bob Hoyt
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 5:56 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Thoughts on Raising Main was Thoughts on Sails

Home Depot has Blaster Dry Lube with Teflon which sounds like the same
ingredients as SailKote but 9.3 oz is only $4.49

Bob Hoyt
Ikigai
#58
Pensacola, Florida

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 4:34 PM Karl Mielenhausen <kmielen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's another take on #3....
> Use a small wad of toilet paper saturated with your favorite lubricant. No
> sweat when it stays at the top of the mast.
> Or, if you're really concerned, put it between the first and second slug.
>
> Cheers....
> Karl
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 4:32 PM Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A couple of notes on raising the main.
> > 1. The halyard get thicker with time which increases friction - solution
> is
> > to replace more frequently than it needs because of wear.
> > 2. I spray the slides and the track as far as I can reach with *SailKote*
> > Dry Lubricant the first time I raise the main each cruise...absolutely
> > works wonders and I can raise 90% from the cockpit without the winch.
> > 3, Bonus tip - I stuff a cotton ball soaked with *SailKote* in the track
> > above the headboard periodically when raising the main and it cleans dirt
> > and salt out of the track which also reduced friction.
> >
> > Chris Burti
> > Commitment, #867
> > Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:20 PM Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff - I can only opine on the Strong Track.  Others may have a
> different
> > > experience with this but mine was not great.  If standing at the mast
> and
> > > pulling the main halyard, my 5-year-old-at-the-time grandson could
> easily
> > > pull the sail all the way up; it was that smooth.  From the cockpit is
> a
> > > different story, at least on #808.  The halyard run from the bottom of
> > the
> > > mast back to the traveler and then back to the rope clutch and then to
> > the
> > > winch is not a straight line which introduced a lot of friction.
> Bottom
> > > line is that I still needed to use the winch to get the sail all the
> way
> > > up.  So for me, the expense was not worth it; if I needed to winch part
> > of
> > > the way up, I might as well winch all the way is my thinking now.
> > >
> > > We did have a fully battened (4 battens) mainsail and a 150 genoa with
> a
> > > rope luff that was just wonderful when reefed.  We also had an A-Sym
> in a
> > > sock which was a lot of fun to sail, and a bit of work to set-up, but
> is
> > > only really safe to use in under about 12 knots of apparent wind.  And
> > it's
> > > not a downwind sail.  It's most effective from about 60 to about 150
> > > degrees of apparent wind.  If you do go this route, I'd really suggest
> > > getting the ATN Tacker also.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Allan S. Field
> > > Sea Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
> > > Columbia, MD
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Jeff Smith
> > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2018 5:36 PM
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Subject: [C320-list] Thoughts on Sails
> > >
> > > To all,
> > >
> > > I am contemplating purchasing a new main sail and a new Genoa. I would
> > > like to benefit from the collective wisdom of the group, if you would
> be
> > > kind enough to share.
> > >
> > > Currently, Sailmates has a 155% Genoa that will be 18 years old next
> > year.
> > > The Main will also be 18 years old next year. It seems like this is
> about
> > > the extent of the useable life of a sail, but I could be mistaken.
> Mainly
> > > we daysail or cruise for the weekend, though I hope to expand my reach
> to
> > > the Bahamas and up the coast to New England. [Side note – I have all of
> > > Spring 2019 available for a passage to the Bahamas if anyone is
> > interested
> > > in a trip. Seriously, let me know because I would love to travel down,
> > but
> > > I do not have blue water experience.]
> > >
> > > My questions include: 1. Has anyone installed a Strong/Tides Track
> > system?
> > > If so, did you find it worth the expense? If you installed it but did
> not
> > > find it worth the expense, what are the negative issues? 2. Quantum
> Sails
> > > has recommended that I could get much of the benefit of the
> Strong/Tides
> > > Track by going to a 2+2 (upper full battens only) system with AllSlip
> > > slides for the Main. Does anyone have any experience with either
> AllSlip
> > > slides or a 2 batten main sail system? They also suggested that I could
> > use
> > > Bainbridge Railman receptacles with a stainless steel universal joint,
> > > which is part of the Strong/Tides track system. Any thoughts here? 3.
> > They
> > > recommended that I do not go bigger than a 140% Genoa for boat balance.
> > Any
> > > thoughts on this? I will say that when we first bought the boat we
> would
> > > regularly roll out the full 155%, but now I tend to keep the Genoa
> above
> > > the lifelines.
> > >
> > > I know there are a lot of questions above, so I appreciate any and all
> > > opinions. By the way, the price quote for a CrossCut CW 2000 Main with
> 2
> > > reefs and 4 battens is $3,056 after a 15% discount. The 140% Genoa with
> > > Foam Luff, Spreader Patches, and UV Cover is $2,400 after the discount.
> > So
> > > that is $5,500 for the two sails, which seems pricey, but less than the
> > > quote from an Ullman sail loft (and only about $800 more than the
> > previous
> > > boat owner paid in 2001). I also priced an asymmetrical spinnaker
> ($2,500
> > > with dousing sleeve), but I am not sure how much we would use this.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > > S/V Sailmates, 94 #121
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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