[C320-list] Helm Instruments

Chuck Mueller katchu at chartermi.net
Tue Oct 2 05:46:04 PDT 2018



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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Recommendations on helm instruments (Scott Thompson)
   2. Re: Recommendations on helm instruments (Jack Brennan)
   3. Re: Helm instruments (Chuck Mueller)
   4. Re: Helm 


Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 17:38:00 -0400
From: Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments
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I've only used the Raymarine instruments so can't comment on the others, but
I've been happy with Raymarine. HOWEVER, I strongly suggest you reconsider
not having a wind instrument if you are going to use an autopilot. I
frequently use wind mode on the autopilot, especially when sailing long
distances, and especially when sailing upwind where small changes in
steering in response to small wind shifts make a big difference. Makes
short-handed sailing much easier. I've found that the autopilot steers
upwind almost as well as I can.


On 9/30/2018 10:20 PM, Jack Brennan wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> I?m a good way through the refit on my new-to-me 320, so I?m starting to
think about helm instruments and wondering what people on the list
recommend.
>
> I now have an old B&G pod with a functional depth/speed instrument and a
dead wind gauge. The wind instrument will disappear when I get the boat
rerigged (I?m old-fashioned). Some of what I?m considering:
>
> * A Navpod with pre-cut holes for a Raymarine depth sounder, EV-100
autopilot and Axiom 7 chartplotter.
>
> * Some type of waterproof tablet and Open CPN, which I have on my phone
and really like. A big question here is how to mount the tablet. I might be
able to keep the B&G pod with depth instrument and alter it to accept the
autopilot instrument.
> instruments (Jack Brennan)
   5. Re: Helm instruments (kskis at aol.com)
   6. Re: Helm instruments (Chris Burti)
   7. Keel bolt/nut torque? (Scott Westwood)
   8. Re: Keel bolt/nut torque? (Art Harden)
   9. Re: Keel bolt/nut torque? (Harry Juris)
  10. Re: Keel bolt/nut torque? (Michael Leschisin)
  11. Re: Keel bolt/nut torque? (Graeme Clark)
  12. Re: Keel bolt/nut torque? (Scott Westwood)


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> * Buy a Raymarine Dragonfly chartplotter/fishfinder, which is an
intriguing alternative. This can be inexpensively mounted on the pedestal.
The remaining question would be how to mount the autopilot and depth
sounder.
>
> Each seems to have its advantages and disadvantages.
>
> In some ways, the Axiom seems to be overkill for what I need. It?s big
selling point is networking, but that?s overkill for what I need. Also, I
don?t want to lose everything if the Axiom dies.
>
> I like the simplicity of the tablet, but don?t want it sliding all over
the cockpit and eventually going overboard.
>
> The Dragonfly has Navionics charts, which means paying for them forever.
Also, it has button control instead of touch screen and a smaller display.
>
> Any ideas and recommendations?
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 18:07:07 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments
Message-ID: <7D956A29B44D47ADB48CF5A6C807BB3B at jackPC>
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Hi Scott:

One of the problems with wind instruments here in Florida is that we
regularly get hit with tropical storms or worse. Wind instruments aren't
very sturdy, so every time we get hit, it's another $500 down the drain for
a new wind sensor.

The nonfunctional wind instrument on mine was killed by Hurricane Irma.

Our winds in Florida are fairly steady and predictable, so it's not
difficult to use yarn on the shrouds and a sturdy wind indicator on the top
of the mast to get a fairly good reading.

Plus, I'm not worried about speed because I discovered today just how fast
the 320 can be. I was hitting 7 knots in gusts that I don't think even
reached 15 knots. Whew!

My "autopilot" today was the wheel brake. Tighten it up, then go forward to
adjust the sails. Worked OK, all things considered.


Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay



-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott Thompson
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 5:38 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments

I've only used the Raymarine instruments so can't comment on the others,
but I've been happy with Raymarine. HOWEVER, I strongly suggest you
reconsider not having a wind instrument if you are going to use an
autopilot. I frequently use wind mode on the autopilot, especially when
sailing long distances, and especially when sailing upwind where small
changes in steering in response to small wind shifts make a big
difference. Makes short-handed sailing much easier. I've found that the
autopilot steers upwind almost as well as I can.


On 9/30/2018 10:20 PM, Jack Brennan wrote:
> Hello all:
>
> I?m a good way through the refit on my new-to-me 320, so I?m starting to 
> think about helm instruments and wondering what people on the list 
> recommend.
>
> I now have an old B&G pod with a functional depth/speed instrument and a 
> dead wind gauge. The wind instrument will disappear when I get the boat 
> rerigged (I?m old-fashioned). Some of what I?m considering:
>
> * A Navpod with pre-cut holes for a Raymarine depth sounder, EV-100 
> autopilot and Axiom 7 chartplotter.
>
> * Some type of waterproof tablet and Open CPN, which I have on my phone 
> and really like. A big question here is how to mount the tablet. I might 
> be able to keep the B&G pod with depth instrument and alter it to accept 
> the autopilot instrument.
>
> * Buy a Raymarine Dragonfly chartplotter/fishfinder, which is an 
> intriguing alternative. This can be inexpensively mounted on the pedestal.

> The remaining question would be how to mount the autopilot and depth 
> sounder.
>
> Each seems to have its advantages and disadvantages.
>
> In some ways, the Axiom seems to be overkill for what I need. It?s big 
> selling point is networking, but that?s overkill for what I need. Also, I 
> don?t want to lose everything if the Axiom dies.
>
> I like the simplicity of the tablet, but don?t want it sliding all over 
> the cockpit and eventually going overboard.
>
> The Dragonfly has Navionics charts, which means paying for them forever. 
> Also, it has button control instead of touch screen and a smaller display.
>
> Any ideas and recommendations?
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:17:38 -0400
From: "Chuck Mueller" <katchu at chartermi.net>
To: <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments
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Hi Jack - This year I updated the instruments on my 320, using the Axiom 7,
EVO-100 wheel pilot, and a new speed, wind and depth package from Raymarine.
I initially had a single pod with 4 instruments, but switched over to two
pods.  The lower pod is on the slanted portion of the pedestal and has the
Axiom and the autopilot.  The upper pod has wind speed and depth.  I'm
really happy with the combination except for the fact that the new depth
instrument won't work with my old transducer.  But I have the new transducer
and will install it when the boat gets pulled.  The Axiom allows you to
update all Raymarine instruments in the system, plus the auto-routing
feature is really nice.  And the standard Axiom 7 without all the fancy
fishing depth options, is quite reasonable.

Chuck Mueller
Northwind #676 Yr. 2000
Holland, MI

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:20:05 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments
Message-ID: <14F990814CF943FC89B8D7F8E6D4E446 at jackPC>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Hello all:

I?m a good way through the refit on my new-to-me 320, so I?m starting to
think about helm instruments and wondering what people on the list
recommend.

I now have an old B&G pod with a functional depth/speed instrument and a
dead wind gauge. The wind instrument will disappear when I get the boat
rerigged (I?m old-fashioned). Some of what I?m considering:

* A Navpod with pre-cut holes for a Raymarine depth sounder, EV-100
autopilot and Axiom 7 chartplotter. 

* Some type of waterproof tablet and Open CPN, which I have on my phone and
really like. A big question here is how to mount the tablet. I might be able
to keep the B&G
Message: 4
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:52:32 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments
Message-ID: <9F4FDAFE86FF4B318DE4E3F0CA0B601C at jackPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Hi Chuck:

It's a tough decision. I've used Raymarine, too, on my previous sailboats 
and liked them.

However, I'm tempted to give a tablet with Open CPN a try for a couple of 
months. I was hoping there was an owner who had done this before me. If it 
doesn't work out, I can always use the tablet for movies, etc.

Two pods seems like a lot, especially because I also have a pod for the 
Yanmar instruments. I gotta have somewhere to see!

Hard to believe I once sailed a 19-foot sailboat all through the Florida 
Keys with nothing but a handheld compass, a pair of binoculars and two 
foldable charts the size of gas station maps. (Remember those?)

Have you considered shooting the new transducer through the hull? Get a 
piece of PVC pipe with a cap and glue it to the bottom of the hull forward 
with an adhesive sealant. Clear flashing sealant from DAP for roofs works 
great.

Anyhow, you fill the pipe with non-toxic coolant (not the regular stuff), 
like you put in water systems for the winter, drop in the transducer and 
screw down the cap, leaving a small hole for the wire to get through.

On my Bristol 30, which had a much thicker hull than the 320, it could read 
depths to about 200 feet instead of the usual 400. (Where I live, most water

is less than 20 feet deep, so it doesn't matter ...)

Some sailors prefer this because it means on less hole in the bottom.

Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay






-----Original Message----- 
From: Chuck Mueller
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 7:17 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments


Hi Jack - This year I updated the instruments on my 320, using the Axiom 7,
EVO-100 wheel pilot, and a new speed, wind and depth package from Raymarine.
I initially had a single pod with 4 instruments, but switched over to two
pods.  The lower pod is on the slanted portion of the pedestal and has the
Axiom and the autopilot.  The upper pod has wind speed and depth.  I'm
really happy with the combination except for the fact that the new depth
instrument won't work with my old transducer.  But I have the new transducer
and will install it when the boat gets pulled.  The Axiom allows you to
update all Raymarine instruments in the system, plus the auto-routing
feature is really nice.  And the standard Axiom 7 without all the fancy
fishing depth options, is quite reasonable.

Chuck Mueller
Northwind #676 Yr. 2000
Holland, MI

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:20:05 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments
Message-ID: <14F990814CF943FC89B8D7F8E6D4E446 at jackPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hello all:

I?m a good way through the refit on my new-to-me 320, so I?m starting to
think about helm instruments and wondering what people on the list
recommend.

I now have an old B&G pod with a functional depth/speed instrument and a
dead wind gauge. The wind instrument will disappear when I get the boat
rerigged (I?m old-fashioned). Some of what I?m considering:

* A Navpod with pre-cut holes for a Raymarine depth sounder, EV-100
autopilot and Axiom 7 chartplotter.

* Some type of waterproof tablet and Open CPN, which I have on my phone and
really like. A big question here is how to mount the tablet. I might be able
to keep the B&G pod with depth instrument and alter it to accept the
autopilot instrument.

* Buy a Raymarine Dragonfly chartplotter/fishfinder, which is an intriguing
alternative. This can be inexpensively mounted on the pedestal. The
remaining question would be how to mount the autopilot and depth sounder.

Each seems to have its advantages and disadvantages.

In some ways, the Axiom seems to be overkill for what I need. It?s big
selling point is networking, but that?s overkill for what I need. Also, I
don?t want to lose everything if the Axiom dies.

I like the simplicity of the tablet, but don?t want it sliding all over the
cockpit and eventually going overboard.

The Dragonfly has Navionics charts, which means paying for them forever.
Also, it has button control instead of touch screen and a smaller display.

Any ideas and recommendations?

Jack Brennan
Sonas,


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 20:23:55 -0400
From: kskis at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments
Message-ID: <1663228ef97-1ec4-8ea4 at webjas-vad139.srv.aolmail.net>
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Even easier, on a prior Bristol 22, I used "Toilet wax".  That is, the wax
that is used to seat a toilet.  Get it at any Home improvement or Plumbing
supply hourse for under $10.  As easy as sticking the wax on the hull then
the transducer solidly into the wax.  After 4 years of perfect use I sold
the boat and it was still working.  Neil Kornblatt #973 Harmony
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 1, 2018 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments

Hi Chuck:

It's a tough decision. I've used Raymarine, too, on my previous sailboats 
and liked them.

However, I'm tempted to give a tablet with Open CPN a try for a couple of 
months. I was hoping there was an owner who had done this before me. If it 
doesn't work out, I can always use the tablet for movies, etc.

Two pods seems like a lot, especially because I also have a pod for the 
Yanmar instruments. I gotta have somewhere to see!

Hard to believe I once sailed a 19-foot sailboat all through the Florida 
Keys with nothing but a handheld compass, a pair of binoculars and two 
foldable charts the size of gas station maps. (Remember those?)

Have you considered shooting the new transducer through the hull? Get a 
piece of PVC pipe with a cap and glue it to the bottom of the hull forward 
with an adhesive sealant. Clear flashing sealant from DAP for roofs works 
great.

Anyhow, you fill the pipe with non-toxic coolant (not the regular stuff), 
like you put in water systems for the winter, drop in the transducer and 
screw down the cap, leaving a small hole for the wire to get through.

On my Bristol 30, which had a much thicker hull than the 320, it could read 
depths to about 200 feet instead of the usual 400. (Where I live, most water

is less than 20 feet deep, so it doesn't matter ...)

Some sailors prefer this because it means on less hole in the bottom.

Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay






-----Original Message----- 
From: Chuck Mueller
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 7:17 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments


Hi Jack - This year I updated the instruments on my 320, using the Axiom 7,
EVO-100 wheel pilot, and a new speed, wind and depth package from Raymarine.
I initially had a single pod with 4 instruments, but switched over to two
pods.  The lower pod is on the slanted portion of the pedestal and has the
Axiom and the autopilot.  The upper pod has wind speed and depth.  I'm
really happy with the combination except for the fact that the new depth
instrument won't work with my old transducer.  But I have the new transducer
and will install it when the boat gets pulled.  The Axiom allows you to
update all Raymarine instruments in the system, plus the auto-routing
feature is really nice.  And the standard Axiom 7 without all the fancy
fishing depth options, is quite reasonable.

Chuck Mueller
Northwind #676 Yr. 2000
Holland, MI

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:20:05 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments
Message-ID: <14F990814CF943FC89B8D7F8E6D4E446 at jackPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hello all:

I?m a good way through the refit on my new-to-me 320, so I?m starting to
think about helm instruments and wondering what people on the list
recommend.

I now have an old B&G pod with a functional depth/speed instrument and a
dead wind gauge. The wind instrument will disappear when I get the boat
rerigged (I?m old-fashioned). Some of what I?m considering:

* A Navpod with pre-cut holes for a Raymarine depth sounder, EV-100
autopilot and Axiom 7 chartplotter.

* Some type of waterproof tablet and Open CPN, which I have on my phone and
really like. A big question here is how to mount the tablet. I might be able
to keep the B&G pod with depth instrument and alter it to accept the
autopilot instrument.

* Buy a Raymarine Dragonfly chartplotter/fishfinder, which is an intriguing
alternative. This can be inexpensively mounted on the pedestal. The
remaining question would be how to mount the autopilot and depth sounder.

Each seems to have its advantages and disadvantages.

In some ways, the Axiom seems to be overkill for what I need. It?s big
selling point is networking, but that?s overkill for what I need. Also, I
don?t want to lose everything if the Axiom dies.

I like the simplicity of the tablet, but don?t want it sliding all over the
cockpit and eventually going overboard.

The Dragonfly has Navionics charts, which means paying for them forever.
Also, it has button control instead of touch screen and a smaller display.

Any ideas and recommendations?

Jack Brennan
Sonas,


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 21:39:02 -0400
From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments
Message-ID: <5bb2cc35.1c69fb81.f3535.8b32 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I installed an e7 MFD, an i70  instrument and p70 autopilot head for the EV
100. It all fits in my old four instrument pod. I also have a boat dedicated
laptop and iPad with Open CPN loaded. I do almost all of my cockpit
navigation with the e7 and use open CPN for route planning and cabin
navigation. The routes transfer relatively easy by loading the micro card in
the laptop.

I tend to use my Wyrie ap for networking.

Thanks,
Chris Burti
Farmville, NC

From: Jack Brennan
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 7:52 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments

Hi Chuck:

It's a tough decision. I've used Raymarine, too, on my previous sailboats 
and liked them.

However, I'm tempted to give a tablet with Open CPN a try for a couple of 
months. I was hoping there was an owner who had done this before me. If it 
doesn't work out, I can always use the tablet for movies, etc.

Two pods seems like a lot, especially because I also have a pod for the 
Yanmar instruments. I gotta have somewhere to see!

Hard to believe I once sailed a 19-foot sailboat all through the Florida 
Keys with nothing but a handheld compass, a pair of binoculars and two 
foldable charts the size of gas station maps. (Remember those?)

Have you considered shooting the new transducer through the hull? Get a 
piece of PVC pipe with a cap and glue it to the bottom of the hull forward 
with an adhesive sealant. Clear flashing sealant from DAP for roofs works 
great.

Anyhow, you fill the pipe with non-toxic coolant (not the regular stuff), 
like you put in water systems for the winter, drop in the transducer and 
screw down the cap, leaving a small hole for the wire to get through.

On my Bristol 30, which had a much thicker hull than the 320, it could read 
depths to about 200 feet instead of the usual 400. (Where I live, most water

is less than 20 feet deep, so it doesn't matter ...)

Some sailors prefer this because it means on less hole in the bottom.

Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay






-----Original Message----- 
From: Chuck Mueller
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2018 7:17 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Helm instruments


Hi Jack - This year I updated the instruments on my 320, using the Axiom 7,
EVO-100 wheel pilot, and a new speed, wind and depth package from Raymarine.
I initially had a single pod with 4 instruments, but switched over to two
pods.  The lower pod is on the slanted portion of the pedestal and has the
Axiom and the autopilot.  The upper pod has wind speed and depth.  I'm
really happy with the combination except for the fact that the new depth
instrument won't work with my old transducer.  But I have the new transducer
and will install it when the boat gets pulled.  The Axiom allows you to
update all Raymarine instruments in the system, plus the auto-routing
feature is really nice.  And the standard Axiom 7 without all the fancy
fishing depth options, is quite reasonable.

Chuck Mueller
Northwind #676 Yr. 2000
Holland, MI

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:20:05 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Recommendations on helm instruments
Message-ID: <14F990814CF943FC89B8D7F8E6D4E446 at jackPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hello all:

I?m a good way through the refit on my new-to-me 320, so I?m starting to
think about helm instruments and wondering what people on the list
recommend.

I now have an old B&G pod with a functional depth/speed instrument and a
dead wind gauge. The wind instrument will disappear when I get the boat
rerigged (I?m old-fashioned). Some of what I?m considering:

* A Navpod with pre-cut holes for a Raymarine depth sounder, EV-100
autopilot and Axiom 7 chartplotter.

* Some type of waterproof tablet and Open CPN, which I have on my phone and
really like. A big question here is how to mount the tablet. I might be able
to keep the B&G pod with depth instrument and alter it to accept the
autopilot instrument.

* Buy a Raymarine Dragonfly chartplotter/fishfinder, which is an intriguing
alternative. This can be inexpensively mounted on the pedestal. The
remaining question would be how to mount the autopilot and depth sounder.

Each seems to have its advantages and disadvantages.

In some ways, the Axiom seems to be overkill for what I need. It?s big
selling point is networking, but that?s overkill for what I need. Also, I
don?t want to lose everything if the Axiom dies.

I like the simplicity of the tablet, but don?t want it sliding all over the
cockpit and eventually going overboard.

The Dragonfly has Navionics charts, which means paying for them forever.
Also, it has button control instead of touch screen and a smaller display.

Any ideas and recommendations?

Jack Brennan
Sonas,


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:25:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
Message-ID: <1724991776.3299241.1538475921489 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Some of you may remember I mentioned I had a crack between the keel and
hull.? Keel nuts were little loose while on the hard.? Anybody know the
torque for tightening?? Probably something I should do before splashing it.
Did quick search of website and did not find details.?
Thanks,
Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538??? C
(919)-618-7185

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:42:09 -0400
From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
Message-ID: <269FCB32-2D8F-47DA-AAB9-FA7186C72D3B at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I wanted to torque mine a couple of years ago and got a lot of different
info. Anywhere between about 60 and 150 foot pounds. As an old mechanic I
figured I would use my past feel for where it should be and I hit on 95-100.
If you the smaller 3/4? bolt in the rear, I tightened that on till good and
snug. 

Hope this helps. 

Art Harden
Catalina 320 ?Tortuga? #243
937-477-5544

> On Oct 2, 2018, at 6:25 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> 
> Some of you may remember I mentioned I had a crack between the keel and
hull.  Keel nuts were little loose while on the hard.  Anybody know the
torque for tightening?  Probably something I should do before splashing it.
> Did quick search of website and did not find details. 
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C
(919)-618-7185


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:42:36 -0400
From: Harry Juris <harry at citron-too.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
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I don't know the answer. But if you don't get it here, I have found, that
questions like that are easily answered by calling Warren Pandy who does
tech support at the factory in Florida.

Harry Juris
S/V Polar Star
Nyack Boat Club
Nyack NY

On Tue, Oct 2, 2018, 06:25 Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

> Some of you may remember I mentioned I had a crack between the keel and
> hull.  Keel nuts were little loose while on the hard.  Anybody know the
> torque for tightening?  Probably something I should do before splashing
it.
> Did quick search of website and did not find details.
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C
> (919)-618-7185
>


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 06:09:13 -0500
From: Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
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Hey Scott,

Please post the inform if you get the specs for the keel nuts.  Probably not
a bad periodic check for preventative maintenance. 

Thanks,

Michael Leschisin

> On Oct 2, 2018, at 5:25 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> 
> Some of you may remember I mentioned I had a crack between the keel and
hull.  Keel nuts were little loose while on the hard.  Anybody know the
torque for tightening?  Probably something I should do before splashing it.
> Did quick search of website and did not find details. 
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C
(919)-618-7185


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 12:25:30 +0100
From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
Message-ID: <9A32D0DE-081B-4E1C-9A92-0A72B4DCB2FD at skyflyer.co.uk>
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I seem to recall that Catalina?s advice is to check the keel bolt torques
only occasionally and NOT on a regular basis. I think the theory is that you
have an L-shaped bolt in a lead keel and after retorquing, the softer lead
will give ever so slightly so next time you check the bolts seem under
torqued. 

Standing by to be corrected though

Graeme

Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!


> On 2 Oct 2018, at 12:09, Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com>
wrote:
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> Please post the inform if you get the specs for the keel nuts.  Probably
not a bad periodic check for preventative maintenance. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael Leschisin
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2018, at 5:25 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>> 
>> Some of you may remember I mentioned I had a crack between the keel and
hull.  Keel nuts were little loose while on the hard.  Anybody know the
torque for tightening?  Probably something I should do before splashing it.
>> Did quick search of website and did not find details. 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C
(919)-618-7185



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 11:31:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
Message-ID: <1904305104.3308857.1538479864939 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The lead (Forward most) nut was finger loose.? Can't be right.
Let you all know once I hear from Catalina.?
Thanks,
Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538??? C
(919)-618-7185

      From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
 To: C320-List at Catalina320.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2018 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel bolt/nut torque?
   
I seem to recall that Catalina?s advice is to check the keel bolt torques
only occasionally and NOT on a regular basis. I think the theory is that you
have an L-shaped bolt in a lead keel and after retorquing, the softer lead
will give ever so slightly so next time you check the bolts seem under
torqued. 

Standing by to be corrected though

Graeme

Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!


> On 2 Oct 2018, at 12:09, Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com>
wrote:
> 
> Hey Scott,
> 
> Please post the inform if you get the specs for the keel nuts.? Probably
not a bad periodic check for preventative maintenance. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael Leschisin
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2018, at 5:25 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
>> 
>> Some of you may remember I mentioned I had a crack between the keel and
hull.? Keel nuts were little loose while on the hard.? Anybody know the
torque for tightening?? Probably something I should do before splashing it.
>> Did quick search of website and did not find details. 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538? ? C
(919)-618-7185


   

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