[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3312, Issue 1
Warren Updike
wupdike at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 25 17:01:14 PDT 2018
Good list. Given the size and length of the hose from the head to the tank, I would double the #8 4 cups to at least 2 quarts. I use about a gallon... one full head of fresh water.
Warren and Pattie Updike
1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
Middle River, MD (Chesapeake Bay)
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From: Sara Schroeder Skinner [mailto:saras951 at comcast.net]
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3312, Issue 1
Excellent advice on the fix for air in the coolant system. Will do this.
When I leave my boat I:
1. Turn off the water pump
2. Turn on the dehumidifier which drains into the sink
3. Turn on a fabulous heater that is safe (De'longhi Safeheat Electric Oil-Filled Radiator) and keeps the boat warm
4. Check the bilge for water
5. Check to ensure batteries are charging
6. Turn on a circulating fan in both the main salon and aft cabin
7. Wash salt water off the deck and stainless steel
8. Pour about 4 cups of fresh water in the head.
Sara
Wandering Star
#707 / 2000
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:45:18 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
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> FWIW.??We do those things too.?
> Since we are on shore power... when we leave the boat we have a de-humidifier we leave on.? Right now it is draining into the galley sink.? It means we have a thru-hull open but I plan to change that in the spring to a condensate pump into the cockpit (or someplace else).? We want a dry bilge so we don't want to drain into bilge and make the bilge pump work more.??
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538??? C (919)-618-7185
>
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com" <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fragile water lines
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> It's amazing the things that can go wrong on a boat. If I had those kinds of problems with a car, that would be the last of that brand I buy.
> Here are a couple of things I try to do when leaving the boat:
> O Turn off water pump and open a faucet to let the pressure drop.
> O Fill the head with about 1 gal fresh water and pump it through to make sure chemicals are in the tank, not left in the hose.
> O If not leaving the fridge on, prop open a door/cover so ambient air can circulate
> O Install reflective inserts (made from layered aluminum insulation) in cabin hatches and put curtains on ports all to reduce heat from Sun.
>
> I'm sure there are lots more things that help. What are your ideas?
>
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, MD (Chesapeake Bay)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbrennan at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:53 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fragile water lines
>
> Bill, is the copper tubing supposed to be insulated right up to the Cold
> Machine? Adler Barbour only supplied enough to cover the lines in the
> fridge. At the other end, I have a plastic covering to prevent chafing.
>
> Why sailors complain about prices:
>
> When I first tried to replace the water line, I bought some sturdy 1/2-inch
> PEX line from Home Depot: 25 feet for $8. It is just slightly larger than
> Whale's 15 mm hose, so it wouldn't work. The price for 33 feet of Whale's
> vastly inferior plastic hose: $54.
>
> Doug, that chemistry angle is interesting on why the hose plugged. As I work
> through the repairs on this boat, I'm always wondering whether something was
> broken because of neglect or vandalism. It's hard to tell some of the time.
>
> In any event, I can't complain too much because I bought the boat at a great
> price, Even after I pay all the bills, the cost to me will be well under
> market. And most of the breakable parts of the boat will be new.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:45:18 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
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> "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com" <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fragile water lines
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> FWIW.??We do those things too.?
> Since we are on shore power... when we leave the boat we have a de-humidifier we leave on.? Right now it is draining into the galley sink.? It means we have a thru-hull open but I plan to change that in the spring to a condensate pump into the cockpit (or someplace else).? We want a dry bilge so we don't want to drain into bilge and make the bilge pump work more.??
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538??? C (919)-618-7185
>
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com" <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fragile water lines
>
> It's amazing the things that can go wrong on a boat. If I had those kinds of problems with a car, that would be the last of that brand I buy.
> Here are a couple of things I try to do when leaving the boat:
> O Turn off water pump and open a faucet to let the pressure drop.
> O Fill the head with about 1 gal fresh water and pump it through to make sure chemicals are in the tank, not left in the hose.
> O If not leaving the fridge on, prop open a door/cover so ambient air can circulate
> O Install reflective inserts (made from layered aluminum insulation) in cabin hatches and put curtains on ports all to reduce heat from Sun.
>
> I'm sure there are lots more things that help. What are your ideas?
>
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, MD (Chesapeake Bay)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Brennan [mailto:jackbrennan at bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 2:53 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fragile water lines
>
> Bill, is the copper tubing supposed to be insulated right up to the Cold
> Machine? Adler Barbour only supplied enough to cover the lines in the
> fridge. At the other end, I have a plastic covering to prevent chafing.
>
> Why sailors complain about prices:
>
> When I first tried to replace the water line, I bought some sturdy 1/2-inch
> PEX line from Home Depot: 25 feet for $8. It is just slightly larger than
> Whale's 15 mm hose, so it wouldn't work. The price for 33 feet of Whale's
> vastly inferior plastic hose: $54.
>
> Doug, that chemistry angle is interesting on why the hose plugged. As I work
> through the repairs on this boat, I'm always wondering whether something was
> broken because of neglect or vandalism. It's hard to tell some of the time.
>
> In any event, I can't complain too much because I bought the boat at a great
> price, Even after I pay all the bills, the cost to me will be well under
> market. And most of the breakable parts of the boat will be new.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:04:15 -0400
> From: John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Companion ladder quick fix
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> What a great idea. I?m going to do this!
> JEM
> 1999#574
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Pat Tormey <ptormey at 4square.net> wrote:
>>
>> I never warmed up to the companion ladder. Seems clipping it over my head wasn?t a great solution. First, I bang my head, second, that thing I needed is still in the cockpit and now the ladder is in the way and third, it?s a fire hazard; I don?t like things between me and the way out.
>>
>> The quick fix is to replace the 2 pivot screws with quick disconnect pins. It still swings up but now I can just remove it.
>> I used Seachoice 75961 Quick Disconnect Stainless steel pin set (with wire keepers) $15 Ace hardware and had to drill the screw threads out of one side of each bracket to ? inch.
>>
>> Pat Tormey
>> Blue Skies
>> #1037
>>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:04:15 -0400
> From: John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
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> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Companion ladder quick fix
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> What a great idea. I?m going to do this!
> JEM
> 1999#574
>> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Pat Tormey <ptormey at 4square.net> wrote:
>>
>> I never warmed up to the companion ladder. Seems clipping it over my head wasn?t a great solution. First, I bang my head, second, that thing I needed is still in the cockpit and now the ladder is in the way and third, it?s a fire hazard; I don?t like things between me and the way out.
>>
>> The quick fix is to replace the 2 pivot screws with quick disconnect pins. It still swings up but now I can just remove it.
>> I used Seachoice 75961 Quick Disconnect Stainless steel pin set (with wire keepers) $15 Ace hardware and had to drill the screw threads out of one side of each bracket to ? inch.
>>
>> Pat Tormey
>> Blue Skies
>> #1037
>>
>
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> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 14:56:46 +0000
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
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> Good follow-up, Troy. It's possible that air can be trapped in the coolant lines that feed the water heater. After replacing those hoses, I found it necessary to remove one hose from the engine and with a funnel pour antifreeze into the hose until all the air was out, just that one time.
>
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, MD (Chesapeake Bay)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy Dunn [mailto:troutwarrior at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:12 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3310, Issue 1
>
> Sorry, wasn't paying attention to the racing stuff and missed the question
> about getting air out of the coolant lines.
>
> By adding coolant to the overflow tank a little bit at a time you will
> eventually get all the air out of the lines. If you aren't seeing a rise
> in coolant level when the engine is running you have air in the system.
>
> Each time the engine heats up it pushes air and then coolant to the
> overflow tank. When it cools back down it draws coolant back into the
> system because the hose pulls from the bottom of the tank. You should also
> keep checking the fill cap on the heat exchanger and making sure that is
> topped off too...but only do that when engine is cool. After a few times
> doing the 1/4 fill thing you should start to notice coolant remaining in
> the overflow tank when the engine is completely cool. Once that happens,
> make sure the overflow tank is at least to the minimum mark when fully cool
> and you are done.
>
>
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