[C320-list] Stiff halyards and sheets

Sara Schroeder Skinner saras951 at comcast.net
Mon Oct 29 15:31:05 PDT 2018


This works like a charm:
1. A bucket
2.  Oxyclean or Simple Green
3.  50/50 solution 
4.  Soak lines for about a week depending on how grungey they are
5. Rinse out bucket, add fresh water and soak for another day or so 
6.  Lay line on dock and using the jet setting on a hose nozzle spray the lines lengthwise and the crud will come right off. This part takes awhile as you have to keep rolling the line until you’ve sprayed all of it. 
Line looks like new! 
Sara
Wandering Star
#707/2000

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>   1. Re: Have free depth display (Autohelm) (Warren Updike)
>   2. Stiff halyards & sheets (argates2nd)
>   3. Re: Stiff halyards & sheets (Dave Hupe)
>   4. Re: Stiff halyards & sheets (Scott Westwood)
>   5. Re: Stiff halyards & sheets (Arthur Gates)
>   6. Re: Stiff halyards & sheets (Jeff Smith)
>   7. Re: Stiff halyards & sheets (Chris Burti)
>   8. Re: Stiff halyards & sheets (Joe Luciano)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:14:54 +0000
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com"
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> Fathometer - Wow! Never heard it called that; but, sure fits. So British. How about "depthometer", "footometer", or "deepometer" for the less nautical of us? 
> Here on the Chesapeake, knowing the depth in fathoms would be useless as a fathom is approx. 1.8m, or 6ft. and we often have to navigate in 6ft. depth. And anchor in 2 fathoms or less. I need to know how many inches remain below my keel.
> It is said that there two kinds of sailors on the Chesapeake, those who have gone aground and those who will. Still, we love our Bay.
> All in jest.
> 
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, MD (Chesapeake Bay)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Helfman [mailto:genehelfman at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:58 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Have free depth display (Autohelm)
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> Fathometer faceplate arrived today.  Thanks! (Of course I had forgotten I
> wrote about this and almost called the bomb squad having received a package
> from an unknown person).  It's sitting in my shop unopened; what were your
> mailing costs?
> 
> 
> gene
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> On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 5:55 AM Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
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>> I still have the original depth display (Display only).  It is the square
>> Black display that came with the boat. Only name on it is "Autohelm".
>> Worked when I took it out about 3 years ago to redo all the electronics.
>> Was cleaning/organizing and found it.
>> Free to anybody that want/needs it.
>> Located in Central and/or Eastern NC.  Raleigh/Newbern area.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C
>> (919)-618-7185
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 08:00:58 -0400
> From: argates2nd <argates2nd at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> I am thinking of soaking in water with fabric softener and bleach.?Any experience doing this or suggestions?The lines are in place and not due to come off so buckets would be used.Rollie. #182Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 12:48:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Hupe <hoopdtwo at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> https://www.practical-sailor.com/blog/Quick-Tips-for-Cleaning-Rope-12008-1.html?ET=practicalsailor:e37200:2082152a:&st=email&s=p_Grabbag031818
> Check out these guidelines about cleaning your lines. Use of bleach is definitely not recommended. ?
> Dave Hupe
> 1994 Cat 320 "Mayan Sun" (#32)
> Holland, MI
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 12:57:50 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> All I have ever heard is to NOT use bleach.
> I soak mine in a bucket for days (or as long as possible) then agitate and replace water soak, agitate, etc... until water is clean.
> Also found if (after soaking for long time) if you lay them out on the deck and use water hose with nozzle the pressure can get more gunk off them.
> If I really wanted them clean and soft I would run a replacement line and put in mesh bag and machine wash on gentle cycle.
> 
> I did bucket thing and took about 4-5 soakings and laying on deck with water hose/nozzle and came pretty clean.
> Others here may have better solutions.
> ?
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538??? C (919)-618-7185
> 
>      From: argates2nd <argates2nd at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com 
> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:01 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> 
> ? ? 
> I am thinking of soaking in water with fabric softener and bleach.?Any experience doing this or suggestions?The lines are in place and not due to come off so buckets would be used.Rollie. #182Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:38:53 -0400
> From: Arthur Gates <argates2nd at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> I don?t see much harm from a little bleach to clean off green algae & mildew?  
> 
> Rollie. #182
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> All I have ever heard is to NOT use bleach.
>> I soak mine in a bucket for days (or as long as possible) then agitate and replace water soak, agitate, etc... until water is clean.
>> Also found if (after soaking for long time) if you lay them out on the deck and use water hose with nozzle the pressure can get more gunk off them.
>> If I really wanted them clean and soft I would run a replacement line and put in mesh bag and machine wash on gentle cycle.
>> 
>> I did bucket thing and took about 4-5 soakings and laying on deck with water hose/nozzle and came pretty clean.
>> Others here may have better solutions.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C (919)-618-7185
>> 
>>     From: argates2nd <argates2nd at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:01 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am thinking of soaking in water with fabric softener and bleach. Any experience doing this or suggestions?The lines are in place and not due to come off so buckets would be used.Rollie. #182Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 14:44:21 +0000
> From: Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com>
> To: Arthur Gates <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> I was told to only use Dawn (insert your detergent here) in warm water, because bleach stiffens the lines, as well as possibly prematurely aging them.
> 
> Jeff
> 1991 S/V Sailmates
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> From: Arthur Gates
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> I don?t see much harm from a little bleach to clean off green algae & mildew?
> 
> Rollie. #182
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> All I have ever heard is to NOT use bleach.
>> I soak mine in a bucket for days (or as long as possible) then agitate and replace water soak, agitate, etc... until water is clean.
>> Also found if (after soaking for long time) if you lay them out on the deck and use water hose with nozzle the pressure can get more gunk off them.
>> If I really wanted them clean and soft I would run a replacement line and put in mesh bag and machine wash on gentle cycle.
>> 
>> I did bucket thing and took about 4-5 soakings and laying on deck with water hose/nozzle and came pretty clean.
>> Others here may have better solutions.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C (919)-618-7185
>> 
>>     From: argates2nd <argates2nd at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:01 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am thinking of soaking in water with fabric softener and bleach. Any experience doing this or suggestions?The lines are in place and not due to come off so buckets would be used.Rollie. #182Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 10:52:16 -0400
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
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> Bleach is pretty much a negative because it is an oxidizing agent and destructive. I just cleaned some really nasty dock lines. I soaked them in a strong solution of TSP and water for a couple of days, then jetted the crud off with the garden hose. Next, tossed them in the washer on soak with Oxyclean before washing with a double rinse. Put them in the sun to dry and they come out clean and soft. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Chris Burti
> Commitment, #867
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Arthur Gates <argates2nd at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I don?t see much harm from a little bleach to clean off green algae & mildew?  
>> 
>> Rollie. #182
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All I have ever heard is to NOT use bleach.
>>> I soak mine in a bucket for days (or as long as possible) then agitate and replace water soak, agitate, etc... until water is clean.
>>> Also found if (after soaking for long time) if you lay them out on the deck and use water hose with nozzle the pressure can get more gunk off them.
>>> If I really wanted them clean and soft I would run a replacement line and put in mesh bag and machine wash on gentle cycle.
>>> 
>>> I did bucket thing and took about 4-5 soakings and laying on deck with water hose/nozzle and came pretty clean.
>>> Others here may have better solutions.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C (919)-618-7185
>>> 
>>>    From: argates2nd <argates2nd at comcast.net>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com 
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:01 AM
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I am thinking of soaking in water with fabric softener and bleach. Any experience doing this or suggestions?The lines are in place and not due to come off so buckets would be used.Rollie. #182Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:59:08 -0600
> From: Joe Luciano <jnluciano at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
> Message-ID: <86ADA298-80C2-4066-98C0-F48E23C13A4D at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
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> I use the bucket method with very warm water and oxyclean.  Has worked well for me.  Gently scrub with a stiff nylon brush.  The oxyclean bucket method works well on the outside of electrical power cords as well. 
> 
> Joe Luciano 
> Second Wind 
> 2005 C-320
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:52 AM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Bleach is pretty much a negative because it is an oxidizing agent and destructive. I just cleaned some really nasty dock lines. I soaked them in a strong solution of TSP and water for a couple of days, then jetted the crud off with the garden hose. Next, tossed them in the washer on soak with Oxyclean before washing with a double rinse. Put them in the sun to dry and they come out clean and soft. 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Chris Burti
>> Commitment, #867
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Arthur Gates <argates2nd at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don?t see much harm from a little bleach to clean off green algae & mildew?  
>>> 
>>> Rollie. #182
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All I have ever heard is to NOT use bleach.
>>>> I soak mine in a bucket for days (or as long as possible) then agitate and replace water soak, agitate, etc... until water is clean.
>>>> Also found if (after soaking for long time) if you lay them out on the deck and use water hose with nozzle the pressure can get more gunk off them.
>>>> If I really wanted them clean and soft I would run a replacement line and put in mesh bag and machine wash on gentle cycle.
>>>> 
>>>> I did bucket thing and took about 4-5 soakings and laying on deck with water hose/nozzle and came pretty clean.
>>>> Others here may have better solutions.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538    C (919)-618-7185
>>>> 
>>>>   From: argates2nd <argates2nd at comcast.net>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:01 AM
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Stiff halyards & sheets
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am thinking of soaking in water with fabric softener and bleach. Any experience doing this or suggestions?The lines are in place and not due to come off so buckets would be used.Rollie. #182Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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