[C320-list] How often to repaint hull
Sara Schroeder Skinner
saras951 at comcast.net
Tue Aug 20 22:47:13 PDT 2019
Wandering Star is in Seattle and she is hauled every 4-5 yrs. I use the Pettit Trinidad paint. Hull is cleaned twice a year + zincs changed. We have the benefit of transiting between salt and fresh water within an hour so we don’t have to haul as often if she is probably maintained.
Sara
Wandering Star
2000/#707
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> 1. Re: Attaching Loose Rub Rail (Clay Carter)
> 2. How Often to Repaint Hull (Joel Krauska)
> 3. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (Michael Ferguson)
> 4. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (Steve Taylor)
> 5. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (Greg Flanagan)
> 6. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (jackbrennan)
> 7. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (Troy Dunn)
> 8. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (David Prudden)
> 9. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (David Prudden)
> 10. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (Chris Burti)
> 11. Re: How Often to Repaint Hull (Utility Comcast)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:24:51 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Clay Carter <fclaycarter at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Attaching Loose Rub Rail
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> Thank you Joe--I was able to easily get the rub rail back into the channel without a hair dryer or assistance--it is very loose (too loose) and pulls out easily.? Does anybody have any suggestions on how to permanently attach the rub rail into the channel so that it won't come out again?
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> On ?Monday?, ?August? ?19?, ?2019? ?02?:?28?:?20? ?PM? ?CDT, SCHWARTZ <schwartz781 at optimum.net> wrote:
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> Ahoy....heat gun or hair dryer to warm rubber,,,four hands,,, wide screwdriver or putty knife...work is easy but slow. Good luck,,,Happy Tuesday,,,,Joe,,#245
>> On August 19, 2019 at 1:39 PM Clay Carter <fclaycarter at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On a recent windy day with plenty of heeling and splashing I returned to my slip and found my port rub rail completely removed the entire length of the boat.? The track seems fine, but the rub rail was just hanging halfway down the side of the hull.? I was able to press it back in temporarily, but I know it is going to fall right back out--anybody have suggestions on how to permanently fix it?
>> Thank you.
>> Clay Carter1995 "We'll Sea"Long Beach, CA
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 15:01:20 -0700
> From: Joel Krauska <joel at krauska.net>
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
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> Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
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> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
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> Best,
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> Joel Krauska
> Grace #802
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 22:23:08 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Michael Ferguson <coralman at bellsouth.net>
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> Here on Atlantic east coast i use hard paint and haul out every 4 yrs.?Michael169
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> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 6:01 PM, Joel Krauska<joel at krauska.net> wrote: Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
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> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
>
> Best,
>
> Joel Krauska
> Grace #802
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 18:24:46 -0500
> From: Steve Taylor <windbourne32 at gmail.com>
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> I generally repaint every two years. I'm in the Seattle area.
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>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 5:01 PM Joel Krauska <joel at krauska.net> wrote:
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>> Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
>>
>> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joel Krauska
>> Grace #802
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 17:27:55 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca>
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> Every 3 years, with a wash and zincs every year.
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> Thanks,
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> Greg
> Sidney, Vancouver Island, BC
> Hoop Dancer #1076
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>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Joel Krauska <joel at krauska.net> wrote:
>>
>> Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
>>
>> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joel Krauska
>> Grace #802
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 23:30:04 +0000 (UTC)
> From: jackbrennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
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> Depends on the type of bottom paint.?
>
> Hard paint like Pettit Trinidad will last three or four years in Florida with regular cleanings. Ablative paints might last two years.
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> This is in the water 12 months a year. Hard paints often lose their effectiveness if left in air for a long time.
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
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> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 7:24 PM, Steve Taylor<windbourne32 at gmail.com> wrote: I generally repaint every two years. I'm in the Seattle area.
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> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 5:01 PM Joel Krauska <joel at krauska.net> wrote:
>
>> Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
>>
>> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joel Krauska
>> Grace #802
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:36:30 -0400
> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
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> This might be like the what anchor is best question. (Fortress...all day
> long) I think it will be highly dependent on where you sail, how you sail,
> how you overwinter, what your paint preferences are, how environmentally
> concerned you are, where you think your money is best spent, how much free
> time you have, how well your bottom is prepped, how you apply the paint and
> what conditions are like that day, what you do for primer/barrier, how you
> tie coat, etc. etc. etc.
>
> Obviously that?s a lot of variables and I'm positive I missed quite a few.
>
> Wonky Dog is kept in fresh water and occasionally sailed into brackish or
> full salt water, the boat is kept in Havre De Grace at the top of the
> Chesapeake and sails as far as we can get with the time we have but never
> out of the bay, the salt line moves north during the summer. When we
> bought the boat we had no information on what bottom prep was done
> originally, and I can absolutely assure you that if you do your homework
> you will hear some real horror stories about dealers in the northeast who
> did not properly bottom prep 320s and 350s prior to bottom painting brand
> new boats. (Hint...there is mold release on the vinylester hull that was
> apparently not removed prior to applying the paint) Our boat was in need
> of bottom paint and no barrier coat was originally applied save the rudder
> which had a barrier coat of some unknown white material. Despite a lot of
> reccos to simply sand the existing bottom coat and recoat with another coat
> of ablative paint we opted to soda blast and then do the entire bottom
> job. We used Interlux 2000E barrier coat and hot tied it to micron CSC and
> hot tied that to an additional coat of micron CSC, we hot tied a third coat
> of CSC to high velocity/turbulence areas at the bow, rudder, and wing
> keel. The finished product is on it's third year. We have not yet seen
> evidence of significant wear other than in areas that we have bumped the
> occasionally crab pot, mooring ball or flotsam/jetsam. I suspect we will
> be touching up again in the spring and possible needing to sand and recoat
> after four years. Our boat is on the hard from the second week in
> November thru March.
>
> Your mileage will absolutely vary, but I am really glad we took the time to
> do this right and didn?t skimp on the paint. Saving $200 on paint won't
> even begin to compensate my time if I have to do this every two years.
> Figure you will burn at least two solid weekends plus an hour or two in the
> slings before splashing to do this job. Soda blasting is best left to a
> professional if you go that route. Some people opt to go the sanding
> route, that did not appeal to me at all, add some more time if you decide
> to go down to gelcoat and start over by hand.
>
> You can find pictures of our bottom job in the owners gallery.
>
> Cheers
>
> Troy
>
> Hull #514
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:47:08 -0400
> From: David Prudden <dprudden at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
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> I did the bottom of Teachers Pet similar to Wonky Dog. After soda blasting the bottom clear, I barrier coated with Interlux 2000E but instead of going right to the Micron CSC, I applied a coat of RED hard bottom paint, then 2+ coats of CSC. When I see hints of red, I know it?s time to repaint.
>
> David Prudden
> #787
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>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This might be like the what anchor is best question. (Fortress...all day
>> long) I think it will be highly dependent on where you sail, how you sail,
>> how you overwinter, what your paint preferences are, how environmentally
>> concerned you are, where you think your money is best spent, how much free
>> time you have, how well your bottom is prepped, how you apply the paint and
>> what conditions are like that day, what you do for primer/barrier, how you
>> tie coat, etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> Obviously that?s a lot of variables and I'm positive I missed quite a few.
>>
>> Wonky Dog is kept in fresh water and occasionally sailed into brackish or
>> full salt water, the boat is kept in Havre De Grace at the top of the
>> Chesapeake and sails as far as we can get with the time we have but never
>> out of the bay, the salt line moves north during the summer. When we
>> bought the boat we had no information on what bottom prep was done
>> originally, and I can absolutely assure you that if you do your homework
>> you will hear some real horror stories about dealers in the northeast who
>> did not properly bottom prep 320s and 350s prior to bottom painting brand
>> new boats. (Hint...there is mold release on the vinylester hull that was
>> apparently not removed prior to applying the paint) Our boat was in need
>> of bottom paint and no barrier coat was originally applied save the rudder
>> which had a barrier coat of some unknown white material. Despite a lot of
>> reccos to simply sand the existing bottom coat and recoat with another coat
>> of ablative paint we opted to soda blast and then do the entire bottom
>> job. We used Interlux 2000E barrier coat and hot tied it to micron CSC and
>> hot tied that to an additional coat of micron CSC, we hot tied a third coat
>> of CSC to high velocity/turbulence areas at the bow, rudder, and wing
>> keel. The finished product is on it's third year. We have not yet seen
>> evidence of significant wear other than in areas that we have bumped the
>> occasionally crab pot, mooring ball or flotsam/jetsam. I suspect we will
>> be touching up again in the spring and possible needing to sand and recoat
>> after four years. Our boat is on the hard from the second week in
>> November thru March.
>>
>> Your mileage will absolutely vary, but I am really glad we took the time to
>> do this right and didn?t skimp on the paint. Saving $200 on paint won't
>> even begin to compensate my time if I have to do this every two years.
>> Figure you will burn at least two solid weekends plus an hour or two in the
>> slings before splashing to do this job. Soda blasting is best left to a
>> professional if you go that route. Some people opt to go the sanding
>> route, that did not appeal to me at all, add some more time if you decide
>> to go down to gelcoat and start over by hand.
>>
>> You can find pictures of our bottom job in the owners gallery.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> Hull #514
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:48:14 -0400
> From: David Prudden <dprudden at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
> Message-ID: <28F187AB-E759-4A34-ADDB-1F21F7EB1CC4 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> The CSC is blue.....sorry about that!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:47 PM, David Prudden <dprudden at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> I did the bottom of Teachers Pet similar to Wonky Dog. After soda blasting the bottom clear, I barrier coated with Interlux 2000E but instead of going right to the Micron CSC, I applied a coat of RED hard bottom paint, then 2+ coats of CSC. When I see hints of red, I know it?s time to repaint.
>>
>> David Prudden
>> #787
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This might be like the what anchor is best question. (Fortress...all day
>>> long) I think it will be highly dependent on where you sail, how you sail,
>>> how you overwinter, what your paint preferences are, how environmentally
>>> concerned you are, where you think your money is best spent, how much free
>>> time you have, how well your bottom is prepped, how you apply the paint and
>>> what conditions are like that day, what you do for primer/barrier, how you
>>> tie coat, etc. etc. etc.
>>>
>>> Obviously that?s a lot of variables and I'm positive I missed quite a few.
>>>
>>> Wonky Dog is kept in fresh water and occasionally sailed into brackish or
>>> full salt water, the boat is kept in Havre De Grace at the top of the
>>> Chesapeake and sails as far as we can get with the time we have but never
>>> out of the bay, the salt line moves north during the summer. When we
>>> bought the boat we had no information on what bottom prep was done
>>> originally, and I can absolutely assure you that if you do your homework
>>> you will hear some real horror stories about dealers in the northeast who
>>> did not properly bottom prep 320s and 350s prior to bottom painting brand
>>> new boats. (Hint...there is mold release on the vinylester hull that was
>>> apparently not removed prior to applying the paint) Our boat was in need
>>> of bottom paint and no barrier coat was originally applied save the rudder
>>> which had a barrier coat of some unknown white material. Despite a lot of
>>> reccos to simply sand the existing bottom coat and recoat with another coat
>>> of ablative paint we opted to soda blast and then do the entire bottom
>>> job. We used Interlux 2000E barrier coat and hot tied it to micron CSC and
>>> hot tied that to an additional coat of micron CSC, we hot tied a third coat
>>> of CSC to high velocity/turbulence areas at the bow, rudder, and wing
>>> keel. The finished product is on it's third year. We have not yet seen
>>> evidence of significant wear other than in areas that we have bumped the
>>> occasionally crab pot, mooring ball or flotsam/jetsam. I suspect we will
>>> be touching up again in the spring and possible needing to sand and recoat
>>> after four years. Our boat is on the hard from the second week in
>>> November thru March.
>>>
>>> Your mileage will absolutely vary, but I am really glad we took the time to
>>> do this right and didn?t skimp on the paint. Saving $200 on paint won't
>>> even begin to compensate my time if I have to do this every two years.
>>> Figure you will burn at least two solid weekends plus an hour or two in the
>>> slings before splashing to do this job. Soda blasting is best left to a
>>> professional if you go that route. Some people opt to go the sanding
>>> route, that did not appeal to me at all, add some more time if you decide
>>> to go down to gelcoat and start over by hand.
>>>
>>> You can find pictures of our bottom job in the owners gallery.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Troy
>>>
>>> Hull #514
>>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:49:00 -0400
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
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> Same as Greg.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Burti
> Commitment #867
> Farmville, NC
>
> From: Joel Krauska
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 6:01 PM
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
>
> Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
>
> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
>
> Best,
>
> Joel Krauska
> Grace #802
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
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> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:01:22 -0700
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
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> Here in the cold water of Puget Sound. Repaint the bottom with Petit Trinidad hard bottom paint every 4 years. Clean the bottom once or twice per year and replace the zincs twice a year as well.
>
>
> S/V Emily Ann
> 2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107
> Mukilteo, WA
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> David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> LEED AP/F. SEI
> Structural Engineer
> (425) 508-7971 mobile
> kswanson123 at comcast.net
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>
>
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 5:49 PM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Same as Greg.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Burti
>> Commitment #867
>> Farmville, NC
>>
>> From: Joel Krauska
>> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 6:01 PM
>> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] How Often to Repaint Hull
>>
>> Quick survey -- how often do you repaint your hull?
>>
>> I'm in seawater in SF, and I often hear 'every 2 years'.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Joel Krauska
>> Grace #802
>>
>
>
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