[C320-list] Winch Rebuild

[Christian]

Everything I've read said to service every year and to replace springs
every service and inspect pawls, including the Crowley's winch rebuild
class I took at Chicago sail show a few years ago.  When I finally got the
time to service my winches after a year of owning, and not know previous
owner's service history, I found 2 pawls with broken springs, and two
others very rusted, on a Lake Michigan only operated boat.

For the price of the spring, I just plan on replacing them every service.
-Christian

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 10:39 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Why are you replacing the pawl springs? I’ve never had one fail and the
> boat is a 1999 which I’ve owned since 2010. I service the winches every 3
> years since I sail on Lake Ontario in fresh water so no corrosion issues
> here. I clean the pawls and springs and add a drop of 3in1 oil, no grease
> here as those pawls need to be fast acting.
> Cheers
> JEM
> 1999#574
> > On Feb 18, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Christian <ccaper at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> > I rebuilt all 4 of mine last year.  I bought the rebuild kits from
> > Defender.  The rebuild kit was defender item #608878 (
> > https://search.defender.com/?expression=608878&x=0&y=0).  The grease is
> > defender item #606875 (
> > https://search.defender.com/?expression=606875&x=0&y=0).
> >
> > I didn't know when my winches had last been rebuilt, so I replaced
> > everything.  The rebuild kits will come with some plastic bushings, I
> used
> > them.  The kits are for more than the #44 and #30, but 4 of the kits got
> me
> > all the springs, pawls, and bushings you'll need.  I had to mix and match
> > from all 4 kits to get the bushings correct for #44 vs #30, you will have
> > some parts left over when done from the kits.
> >
> > Now that I know my winch service history, and the type of sailing I do
> (non
> > racing, short seasons on Lake Michigan), I plan to service every other
> > year, replace springs every service, replace pawls every other service
> (if
> > visually they look ok when skipping).
> >
> > That tube of grease should last about 3 services.  Over greasing is not
> > good.
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> > -Christian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:59 AM Tom Grass <tgrass462 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Thank you all for your comments and suggestions.
> >>
> >> Tom Grass
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 6:55 AM Jeff Hare <Catalina at thehares.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you're the kind who is prone to dropping things, you can take a box,
> >>> cut a hole the size of the winch and set it over the winch during your
> >>> assembly/disassembly.  Improves your chances of not dropping something
> >>> would roll down the deck and off the boat.
> >>>
> >>> Every.single.thing I drop on board, bounces until it finds the edge of
> >> the
> >>> boat and then jumps for freedom.  Doesn't seem to matter what it is.
> >>>
> >>> -Jeff
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of
> >>> Scott Lagerquist
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 12:19 AM
> >>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Winch Rebuild
> >>>
> >>> Tom and Tracy,
> >>>
> >>> I clean and lubricate the winches every two years.  You can download
> >>> instructions free from Lewmar.  I recommend one small tube of Lewmar
> >> winch
> >>> grease and getting a package of paw springs.  Defender sells these
> >>> separately or as a kit.  The kit also has machine oil but I use
> something
> >>> local like 3-2-1.  You’ll also need a Large container of solvent,rags,
> >> and
> >>> an old tooth brush.  Disassemble and soak gears, bearings and other
> metal
> >>> parts in solvent.  Clean all old grease and dirt off each part with the
> >>> toothbrush and wipe clean.  Everything should look new; this takes
> time.
> >>> Reassemble with new paw springs and lubricate as directed.
> >>>
> >>> Actually, there are several U-Tube videos that show all of this step by
> >>> step.  Lewmar has a really good one.  Check them out if you haven’t
> >> already
> >>> done so.  Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> Scott Lagerquist
> >>> C-320, 1994, #39
> >>> Sea Esta
> >>> San Diego CA
> >>> Lgrqst at aol.com
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:33 PM, Tom Grass <tgrass462 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I am planning on rebuilding our four winches on Bucket List this
> >> spring.
> >>>> Our 320 MK II has:
> >>>>
> >>>> Primaries #44 Lewmar - Two Winches
> >>>> Halyard #30 Lewmar - Two Winches
> >>>>
> >>>> Question - have other 320 owners purchased rebuild kits (Springs,
> >>>> Pawls,
> >>>> etc.) - or have you simply removed and cleaned and reinstalled
> >>> components?
> >>>>
> >>>> IF you purchased rebuild kits - did you source them from Defender?
> >>>> West Marine?  Other?
> >>>>
> >>>> Appreciate your assistance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tom & Tracy Grass
> >>>> Bucket List
> >>>> 2008 320 MK II
> >>>> #1135
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>