[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3471, Issue 1

Sun Jun 9 19:40:26 PDT 2019

Ditto what Dave said.  I continually had a little water in the bilge which annoyed me.  I took a used plastic one serving cereal cup (Raisin Bran Crunch to be exact) and wire tied it to a hose under the sink.  I set the overflow hose in it. Once a month or so I dump the water in the cup and the bilge is always dry. 
Sara 
Wandering Star
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>   1. Re: Forward fresh water tank (Charles Holbrook)
>   2. Removing opening portlights (David Veeneman)
>   3. Re: Removing opening portlights (Graeme Clark)
>   4. Re: Removing opening portlights (P.F. Ross)
>   5. Re: Removing opening portlights (Dave Hupe)
>   6. Cabin floor replacement (Jack Brennan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 10:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Charles Holbrook <charlesholbrook at ymail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forward fresh water tank
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> I just had to replace our pressure relief valve on the hot water heater because it was leaking under the sink and into the bilge.
> Charlie HolbrookNautigirl1995 Cat 320
>    On Saturday, June 8, 2019, 01:15:03 PM EDT, Joe Luciano <jnluciano at comcast.net> wrote:  
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> The pressure relief valve should not bleed off routinely like that, at least in my experience.? I would change that valve out and go back to a tight hot water heater.? They are relatively cheap to replace.
> 
> Joe Luciano
> 
> Second Wind
> 2005 Catalina 320
> Anacortes, WA
> 
>> On Jun 8, 2019, at 9:29 AM, Utility Email <kswanson123 at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> I recall thinking the same thing about the water tanks leaking fresh water into the bilge with our C320.? It turned out it was fresh water entering the bilge from the hot water tank pressure relief valve bleeding off excess pressure and water from the expansion of the water in the hot water tank when turned on.? So now we just have a small plastic water bottle under the galley sink intercept that fresh water.? We put the check valve overflow hose into that bottle.? We have a dry bilge now and we just empty that plastic bottle periodically.? 
>> 
>> I agree with other comments on the rotomolded water tanks being bulletproof and it is likely the fittings leaking if that is where the fresh water is coming from.? 
>> 
>> Dave 
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>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are three fittings; fill, vent and supply. Paper towels make a good leak detector.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Chris Burti
>>> Commitment #867
>>> 
>>> From: Jaime Borrego
>>> Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 5:51 PM
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forward fresh water tank
>>> 
>>> Ok - I?ll retest tomorrow.? Seem to be getting the leak from under the tank. 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Check the hose connections. The tanks are fairly bulletproof and if yours is actually leaking it will be the first I recall hearing about in over fifteen years on this group. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Chris Burti
>>>> Statewide Title, Inc.? 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Jaime Borrego <jaime.borrego at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I initially thought that I might be overfilling in some way - dried up the area and filled the tank 1/2 way - over the next 15-20 minutes I got about an inch of water leak into the surrounding in the area.? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 4:37 PM, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> More than likely it is the inspection port leaking when you fill the tank.
>>>>>> Several wraps of Teflon plumber's tape on the threads of the screw in plate
>>>>>> will reduce this and don't overfill.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris Burti
>>>>>> Commitment #867
>>>>>> Farmville, NC
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 3:25 PM Jaime Borrego <jaime.borrego at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello- As a new owner of a 2000 Catalina 320, I seem to have found an
>>>>>>> unseen water leak in the froward fresh water tank.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations (or can point me to a good site) for
>>>>>>> the replacement of the tank?? I don?t see how I can get a new plastic tank
>>>>>>> in - is there a good replacement bladder?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jaime
>>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 07:35:12 -0700
> From: David Veeneman <davidv at veeneman.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Removing opening portlights
> Message-ID: <7B73A7EA-F7D8-40A5-AA63-F411F4C2D2A1 at veeneman.com>
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> I need to replace the opening portlights in my cabin?the old ones are pretty badly crazed. It?s pretty obvious how to take the lenses off their hinges, but it?s not so obvious how to remove the dogs from the bottom of the lenses. The dogs appear to have a flush, round plastic cap in their centers, and I?m guessing that if I remove that cap, Ill find a screw or nut that removes the dog from the lens, so I can transfer it to the replacement that I have purchased.
> 
> I don?t want to damage the cap, so I don?t want to attempt prying it loose with a screwdriver without checking first to see if that?s the best way to go about it. So, my questions are: Am I right about the cap covering the screw or nut that holds the dog in place? If so, how does one remove the cap? And, if I am on the wrong track, how do I remove the dog? Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> --
> David Veeneman
> Dana Point, CA
> SV Adelante, C320 #131
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 15:45:12 +0100
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: Catalina list <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Removing opening portlights
> Message-ID: <39B10639-12D3-497E-BEE4-531449D0C551 at skyflyer.co.uk>
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> Yes you are correct. I used a small sewing needle or pin that can be poked into the side of the cap and used to lever it off leaving only a small pinhole in the side where it cant really be seen.
> I guess you could also use something sticky but not permanent to grip the top face of the cap and pull - chwing gum maybe?
> 
> Graeme
> 
> #366. 1996 ?Jaskar?.
> 
>> On 9 Jun 2019, at 15:35, David Veeneman <davidv at veeneman.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I need to replace the opening portlights in my cabin?the old ones are pretty badly crazed. It?s pretty obvious how to take the lenses off their hinges, but it?s not so obvious how to remove the dogs from the bottom of the lenses. The dogs appear to have a flush, round plastic cap in their centers, and I?m guessing that if I remove that cap, Ill find a screw or nut that removes the dog from the lens, so I can transfer it to the replacement that I have purchased.
>> 
>> I don?t want to damage the cap, so I don?t want to attempt prying it loose with a screwdriver without checking first to see if that?s the best way to go about it. So, my questions are: Am I right about the cap covering the screw or nut that holds the dog in place? If so, how does one remove the cap? And, if I am on the wrong track, how do I remove the dog? Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> David Veeneman
>> Dana Point, CA
>> SV Adelante, C320 #131
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 09:47:17 -0500
> From: "P.F. Ross" <pfrstl at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Removing opening portlights
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> Yes, David, the center caps cover a phillips head screw that retain the
> dogs.
> 
> I use a flat blade jewelers screwdriver to work my way around the cap,
> lightly prying up as I go around.  At some point the cap pops out easily.
> Minimal damage all around.
> 
> Frank Ross
> Beta Wave #206
> Naples, FL
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 9:35 AM David Veeneman <davidv at veeneman.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I need to replace the opening portlights in my cabin?the old ones are
>> pretty badly crazed. It?s pretty obvious how to take the lenses off their
>> hinges, but it?s not so obvious how to remove the dogs from the bottom of
>> the lenses. The dogs appear to have a flush, round plastic cap in their
>> centers, and I?m guessing that if I remove that cap, Ill find a screw or
>> nut that removes the dog from the lens, so I can transfer it to the
>> replacement that I have purchased.
>> 
>> I don?t want to damage the cap, so I don?t want to attempt prying it loose
>> with a screwdriver without checking first to see if that?s the best way to
>> go about it. So, my questions are: Am I right about the cap covering the
>> screw or nut that holds the dog in place? If so, how does one remove the
>> cap? And, if I am on the wrong track, how do I remove the dog? Thanks for
>> your help.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> David Veeneman
>> Dana Point, CA
>> SV Adelante, C320 #131
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 15:34:53 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Hupe <hoopdtwo at yahoo.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Removing opening portlights
> Message-ID: <603112805.394722.1560094493900 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
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> David-
> I removed my dog latches from my lenses last year to replace the small O-rings that are on the outside part (that seals the mechanism from water). When you reassemble, make sure everything is clean, make sure the o-ring is in good shape (or new), and lightly grease the o-ring with waterproof grease.? The center plastic caps covering the single screw were a real pain to remove.? I did it with a razor blade in an attempt to not damage them.? After I finally got them off, I did not replace them ?. the visible screw does not bother me.?
> Another Catalina owner drilled a small hole in the center cap and screwed in a small screw that he could then grab easily with plyers to remove the caps.?
> Where are you getting your new lenses??
> Dave Hupe
> 1994 Cat 320 (#32) "Mayan Sun"
> Holland, MI
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2019 11:51:36 -0400
> From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
> To: "C320-list at catalina320.com" <C320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Cabin floor replacement
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> Well, I?m finally done with replacing the cabin sole with Lonseal teak and holly laminate. It was a success, but I have to say it was the most meticulous, unforgiving project I?ve taken on in three major refits of sailboats.
> 
> Some notes for anyone contemplating this project:
> 
> ? If I had to do it over again, I would choose the solid teak pattern. Lining up the holly stripes is extremely difficult and time consuming. Remember, there are five hatch covers for the bilge and six separate floor sections in the cabin ?
> ? Thickened West System epoxy worked great. I mixed four separate batches to keep it from hardening. First the V berth floor, then the forward cabin area, followed by the large port and starboard sections in the rest of the cabin.
> ? An expensive, really sharp utility knife is your friend. With a little practice, you can cut extremely accurate lines in the laminate if you take your time.
> ? Even if you plan on cutting a new underlayment for the laminate, be careful to protect the old stuff when you remove it. Making your own pattern without them would be very time consuming. 
> ? On my 320, small screws through the laminate hold the floor underlayment to the subfloor. I chose to continue doing this, and it made it much easier to cut and glue down the laminate. I would take up a couple of screws, lay down the glue and rescrew the laminate down to the subfloor.
> ? Lonseal comes in six-foot-wide sections. Ten feet, costing about $400, is plenty. 
> ? Lastly, if you have a fat bank account, this really is a project left to a floor professional. I did it myself to stretch my boat budget and because I?m retired with plenty of time. My guess is that it would cost 3K or so, based on $800 in material and $2,200 in labor. 
> 
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320, no. 528
> Tierra Verde, Fl. Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay.
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