[C320-list] Rigging Tie Rods

[Doug Treff]

Warren Updike wrote an article that is available here on the C320 web site about rebedding chainplates. He made mention of a crow's foot socket but didn't call out what size specifically.
https://c320.org/article.php/20161031044811487

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Doug Treff
doug at treff.us

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, at 3:01 PM, mseyler at cox.net wrote:
> Three possible solutions for tightening the tie-rods.  
> 
> First, you can get deep-well sockets.  I found a 27MM socket at Grainger.  
> 
> https://www.grainger.com/product/SK-PROFESSIONAL-TOOLS-27mm-Alloy-Steel-Socket-with-20K043 
> 
> I also found one much cheaper at Northern Tool.  
> 
> https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200654072_200654072
> 
> For the one-time low-torques use you're going to have, the cheaper 
> version is probably fine.  Frustratingly, neither one says how deep the 
> socket actually is, so it's hard to tell whether it would be deep 
> enough to fit over the tie-rod end.
> 
> There is also such a thing as a "pass-through" socket set.  I bought 
> one at Grainger for another project.  
> 
> https://www.grainger.com/category/tools/sockets-bits/socket-sets?attrs=Item%7CPass-Thru+Socket+Set&filters=attrs 
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> It only went up to 22MM, so might not be big enough for the tie-rods.  
> But if you can find one for the size of the nuts, it allows the bolt to 
> pass through the ratchet, and covers any length of bolt.
> 
> The other alternative would be to find a box ratchet wrench.  Here's 
> one from Grainger, again:
> 
> https://www.grainger.com/product/WESTWARD-1-1-8-54PN37
> 
> You might be able to find one cheaper.  But because of the thickness of 
> the ratchet mechanism, there may be some places a socket would fit or a 
> plain box wrench, but not a box ratchet wrench.
> 
> I agree with Dave that you don't want to tighten the tie-rod too much, 
> because it would tend to pull the fitting down through the deck.  But I 
> would think you'd want a little bit of pre-load to counter the upward 
> pull on the windward shrouds when the boat is on the wind.  If anyone 
> knows of a specification I'd love to see it.
> 
> Good luck, and let us know how it all works out.  This list is an 
> incredible source of information that any one of us may need one day.
> 
> Mark Seyler
> S/V Reality, 
> Catalina 320, #232
> New Orleans, LA
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of Dave Hupe
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2020 11:00 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rigging Tie Rods
> 
> Michael-
> I had one rod that was loose to the point I could shake it back and 
> forth and hear a slight rattle.  I snugged it up just enough with an 
> open end wrench to eliminate the play.  I think if you torque it too 
> much you risk cracking the deck at the chain plate (not good).
> I think I read an earlier post about just snugging it up. Dave Hupe
> 1994 C320 #32
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>  
>   On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:01 AM, Michael 
> Leschisin<mleschisin at imagestudios.com> wrote:   Hey all,
> 
> I need to snug down the tie rods for the standing rigging on my boat.  
> (The rods we all have on the interior of the boat that anchor the 
> rigging to the hull behind the settees.). I believe the fore and aft 
> tie rod nuts are 3/4 inch.  Does anyone know the exact size of the 
> center tie rod nut?  I measured it with calipers but its pretty 
> difficult to get to cleanly, so I’m not sure if it’s an inch and 
> 1/16th, an inch and 1/8th or possibly 27mm.  
> 
> I’m also looking for some advice on a source for extra long sockets 
> since the rod extends about two and a half inches beyond the nut.  I 
> can get a combination wrench on the fore and aft rods, but the ability 
> to turn the wrench is very limited.  I’m guessing the center rods, with 
> an even larger wrench, will be even more restricted so it seems a 
> socket would be the way to go…. any experience in this area?  I’m 
> guessing there are no standard torque specs for these nuts but if 
> someone knows otherwise that would also be a great help.
> 
> Thanks for the help,
> 
> Michael Leschisin
> 
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> 
> Wild Blue Yonder
> #995
> Menominee, MI
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