[C320-list] C320-list Digest, flares
Tom Talling
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> 1. Re: Expired Flare Kits (David Nolte)
> 2. Re: Expired Flare Kits (David Nolte)
> 3. Re: Expired Flare Kits (cdickhut2 at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Allan Field)
> 5. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Graeme Clark)
> 6. Re: Expired Flare Kits (jason reynolds)
> 7. Re: Expired Flare Kits (jason reynolds)
> 8. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Brian McLamb)
> 9. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Michael Leschisin)
> 10. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Jon Vez)
> 11. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Joe Geiger)
> 12. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Joe Jablonowski)
> 13. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Utility Email)
> 14. Re: Expired Flare Kits (Doug Treff)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:15:55 -0500
> From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Cc: Catalina Assoc <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <6812D5BF-BAF8-4D81-8CE4-779A302D3456 at mac.com>
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> Hi!
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>
> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>
> Thanks!
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House 0004
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:15:55 -0500
> From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Cc: Catalina Assoc <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
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> Hi!
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>
> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>
> Thanks!
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House 0004
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:25:16 +0000 (UTC)
> From: cdickhut2 at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <2060403189.10768798.1578929116976 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> David,
> Not sure July 4th is a good idea. Fire companies may help you. I keep outdated flares on board separate from current flares. My thought is even if some of the outdated flares don't work having extra flares seems like a good idea.
> Chuck DickhutUSGC Licensed CaptainS/V ObsessionCatalina 320 #114
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Cc: Catalina Assoc <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 10:16 am
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
>
> Hi!
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>
> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>
> Thanks!
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House 0004
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:30:07 +0100
> From: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID:
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> I gave a bag of them to the Coast Guard station Oxford a few years ago and
> they were much appreciated.
>
> Allan S. Field
>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, 3:16 PM David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:33:15 +0000
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <08B95703-8D01-4403-B8D5-2EDB113896D3 at skyflyer.co.uk>
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> David
> In the UK it is common practice for sellers of new kits to offer to dispose of the old kit when you replace it. Maybe worth asking in the USA?
>
> We also are able to make an appointment with local Coastguard who will dispose of them but you can?t just turn up uninvited!
>
> I git rid of mine at 00:01 on 1st January, albeit from home, 250 miles from the nearest coastline!
> Graeme
>
>
> Sent from my phone. Excuse typos!
>
>> On 13 Jan 2020, at 15:15, David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:33:34 +0000
> From: jason reynolds <jereyns at hotmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Cc: Catalina Assoc <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID:
> <QB1PR01MB3506D3EE23470A2445E51AEDB3350 at QB1PR01MB3506.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
>
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> Check with your local harbor master they often take them to use for drills and training
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:15 AM, David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:33:34 +0000
> From: jason reynolds <jereyns at hotmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Cc: Catalina Assoc <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID:
> <QB1PR01MB3506D3EE23470A2445E51AEDB3350 at QB1PR01MB3506.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> Check with your local harbor master they often take them to use for drills and training
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:15 AM, David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:34:30 -0500
> From: Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID:
> <CAEZi75Ka6LuYjCbNvHE2EqAVM+VG_9ZoQ7ejyUYJ7ADruAokAA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hello David. I had this same issue a couple of years ago and here is my
> saga. Local fire department and US Coast Guard Aux had no rules to cover
> such items, and would not accept them for disposal. I continued to pursue
> the matter all the way to the NC State Fire Marshall's Office and they
> could find no state guidelines for disposal. Universal answer that I
> received was to soak the flare completely submerged in a large tub or
> bucket for at least 24 hours, The longer the better for complete
> saturation. Once this has been done you can throw them away in the normal
> trash disposal. I do not know where you are located so perhaps a different
> state fire marshal could give you a different answer. Also, you could save
> them for back-ups to your new flares. I replaced mine with the strobe
> light approved by the US Coast Guard for distress signaling. It is battery
> operated and may be purchesed at several marine distributors including WM.
> It holds up very well and is extremely bright. It even blinks SOS
> automatically on one of its settings.
>
> Brian McLamb
> s/v Serenity #1075
>
>
>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:16 AM David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:10:22 -0600
> From: Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <C45978A5-62F0-4B40-A90B-503FE690E4A8 at imagestudios.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hey Dave,
>
> I always drop mine off at the local fire department. They?re happy to take them.
>
>
>
>
> Michael Leschisin
> #995, Wild Blue Yonder
> Menominee, MI
>
>
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 9:15 AM, David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:13:35 -0500
> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <E7425E91-2955-47EA-9B51-7A70374FE5B3 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> This is exactly the same scenario we experienced in MA. After 30 years of boating, backup flares become a problem. Our solution was to also buy an electronic flare and had friends bring our old flares to their farm in VT and light them! They all worked, even the very old ones. Very frustrating when trying to do the right thing!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hello David. I had this same issue a couple of years ago and here is my
>> saga. Local fire department and US Coast Guard Aux had no rules to cover
>> such items, and would not accept them for disposal. I continued to pursue
>> the matter all the way to the NC State Fire Marshall's Office and they
>> could find no state guidelines for disposal. Universal answer that I
>> received was to soak the flare completely submerged in a large tub or
>> bucket for at least 24 hours, The longer the better for complete
>> saturation. Once this has been done you can throw them away in the normal
>> trash disposal. I do not know where you are located so perhaps a different
>> state fire marshal could give you a different answer. Also, you could save
>> them for back-ups to your new flares. I replaced mine with the strobe
>> light approved by the US Coast Guard for distress signaling. It is battery
>> operated and may be purchesed at several marine distributors including WM.
>> It holds up very well and is extremely bright. It even blinks SOS
>> automatically on one of its settings.
>>
>> Brian McLamb
>> s/v Serenity #1075
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:16 AM David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>>
>>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> David Nolte
>>> Beach House 0004
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:24:55 -0500
> From: Joe Geiger <joe.geiger at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <F94E7594-9B97-45B1-A8D5-97A1FD57C166 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Having just acquired a 20 year old boat full of expired flares I had the same issue. I live in central MA and have been able to drop them off my local fire department. I called first to see if they would take them.
>
> I think it?s a good idea to set off a couple expired ones so you know what to expect when you do need to use them. I found out they drip molten hot material and I burned a hole in my favorite pants :( Now I know to keep them over the water and away from clothing, canvas, lines and sails when using them on the boat.
>
> --
> Joe Geiger
> ?Vega? Hull #722
> Greenwich Cove, RI
>
>
>
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> This is exactly the same scenario we experienced in MA. After 30 years of boating, backup flares become a problem. Our solution was to also buy an electronic flare and had friends bring our old flares to their farm in VT and light them! They all worked, even the very old ones. Very frustrating when trying to do the right thing!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Hello David. I had this same issue a couple of years ago and here is my
>>> saga. Local fire department and US Coast Guard Aux had no rules to cover
>>> such items, and would not accept them for disposal. I continued to pursue
>>> the matter all the way to the NC State Fire Marshall's Office and they
>>> could find no state guidelines for disposal. Universal answer that I
>>> received was to soak the flare completely submerged in a large tub or
>>> bucket for at least 24 hours, The longer the better for complete
>>> saturation. Once this has been done you can throw them away in the normal
>>> trash disposal. I do not know where you are located so perhaps a different
>>> state fire marshal could give you a different answer. Also, you could save
>>> them for back-ups to your new flares. I replaced mine with the strobe
>>> light approved by the US Coast Guard for distress signaling. It is battery
>>> operated and may be purchesed at several marine distributors including WM.
>>> It holds up very well and is extremely bright. It even blinks SOS
>>> automatically on one of its settings.
>>>
>>> Brian McLamb
>>> s/v Serenity #1075
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:16 AM David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>>>
>>>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> David Nolte
>>>> Beach House 0004
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:29:31 -0500
> From: Joe Jablonowski <appleton1 at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <A862246E-C9CA-4B1E-8F16-75814A70689F at yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Our yacht club organizes a ?Flare Off? every other year.
> Saturday morning in early May (when the harbor is still relatively empty).
> Opportunity for crew to learn by doing, conquer fear.
> Coast Guard, police, firefighters all notified in advance and immediately prior on Ch 16.
> - Joe Jablonowski
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Dave,
>>
>> I always drop mine off at the local fire department. They?re happy to take them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Leschisin
>> #995, Wild Blue Yonder
>> Menominee, MI
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 9:15 AM, David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>>
>>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> David Nolte
>>> Beach House 0004
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:10:03 -0800
> From: Utility Email <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
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> Fourth of July fun and for experience too!
>
> Dave
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>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Joe Jablonowski <appleton1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Our yacht club organizes a ?Flare Off? every other year.
>> Saturday morning in early May (when the harbor is still relatively empty).
>> Opportunity for crew to learn by doing, conquer fear.
>> Coast Guard, police, firefighters all notified in advance and immediately prior on Ch 16.
>> - Joe Jablonowski
>>
>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Dave,
>>>
>>> I always drop mine off at the local fire department. They?re happy to take them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Leschisin
>>> #995, Wild Blue Yonder
>>> Menominee, MI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 9:15 AM, David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>>>
>>>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> David Nolte
>>>> Beach House 0004
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 13:13:06 -0600
> From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Expired Flare Kits
> Message-ID: <14fb6f2d-2408-4ddf-94f5-ae4e52e902df at www.fastmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> David,
>
> Since you're in Maryland, you may find this useful. The Annapolis City FD will take them.
>
> http://www.spinsheet.com/flare-disposal-annapolis
>
> Drop off unused flares to the Annapolis Fire Department headquarters
> Location: 1790 Forest Drive M-F 8:30-4:30.
>
> --
> Doug Treff
> doug at treff.us
>
>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020, at 9:15 AM, David Nolte wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for getting rid of old Flare Kits?
>>
>> Local Fire Department? Set them off on the 4th of July? Other?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House 0004
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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