[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3747,Anchor Recommendation
Jeffrey Kapec
jkapec at tkdg.com
Fri Jun 12 13:59:25 PDT 2020
Hello Peter:
I also had a Danforth on my boat. I wanted a better anchor that would
insure a positive set under all conditions. I did my research. Practical
Sailor had conducted a review and the Manson Supreme was very highly
recommended in that review as well as few others. I keep the Danforth in
the anchor well with chain and line for a backup. The 25 lb. Manson Supreme
sets very well on the bow roller that came with the boat.
>From time to time when anchoring in mud and or sand the Danforth would take
a while to set and a few times it dragged before setting and in a few
instances I would have to reset. I have had this Manson on my boat for 10
years. I have 40 feet of 3/16" high tensile galvanized chain which is then
attached to 270 ft. of nylon rode. I have never had this anchor drag wither
for quick set or long term 2-4 days in anchorage with shifting winds and
current working against my original set point.
The Manson is so reliable. It sets securely the first time. I let the boat
work the set for a little while and then in about 10 minutes I will apply
reverse for a deep set if I am anchored for one or more days. I sail in
Long Island Sound which is mud , gravel and sand bottom. I sleep well when
at anchor, even in higher winds
Here are two UTube links if you want to see the anchor challenged at work
setting in the bottom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwaVD2KqitM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va7CGfT3jaY
Jeff Kapec
Petite Suite hull 718
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1. Re: Second Reef Line Arrangement (Chris White)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 14:59:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Second Reef Line Arrangement
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Dennis
I will check it out next time I go to the boat (next week) and take a pic
for you.As there are four clutches on the starboard side, I must have added
one.
Regards
Chris White#449 1997
On Friday, 12 June 2020, 15:14:04 BST, Dennis Cookson
<dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:
That?s good to know, Chris.? I don?t suppose you have a drawing of the
shape/size/location of that plate? I already have three clutches each side -
is there room for a fourth?
Dennis Cookson
#577 1999
> On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:10, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> Hi Dennis
> That's right I tie off the genoa and spinnaker halyards of on cleats on
the mast.I have two cleats each side of the mast.
> I may have added an additional clutch on the starboard side in the past
(I've owned the boat for 20 years).You could order one from Garhauer.There
is a steel or aluminium plate bonded in below the flat section where the
clutches are mounted, so you can drill then tap a secure fixing for a new
clutch.Trust Catalina to do a proper job when they built these boats!
> Regards
> Chris White#449 1997
>
>
>? On Friday, 12 June 2020, 11:20:02 BST, Dennis Cookson
<dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:?
>
> Hi Chris, thanks for this.? I assume you don?t bring the genoa or
spinnaker halyards into the cockpit, to make room for these reef lines, how
do you terminate them?
>
> Both of these are on my clutches, as is the boom vang. Have you added more
cleats at the mast?? We could really do with a couple more clutches!
>
> Dennis Cookson
> #577 1999
>
>
>> On 11 Jun 2020, at 08:12, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>>
>> Dennis
>> You can fix the second reef with a luff line attached with a bowline,
take the line straight down to a turning block on the deck, via a 30mm SS
ring which should be attached to the mainsail shackle at the gooseneck.This
line can then go back to one of the line clutches in the cockpit.You may
need to add a Garhauer block at the base of the mast.I have organised my
lines to cockpit as follows, from left to right:
>> Port side:2nd reef luff1st reef luffTopping lift
>> Starboard side:Boom downhaul1st reef leech
>> 2nd reef leech
>> Main halliard
>> Hope this helps
>> Chris WhiteYacht Dandy #449Hamble River UK
>>
>>?
>>
>>? ? On Wednesday, 3 June 2020, 17:33:03 BST, Dennis Cookson
<dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:?
>>
>> Our 1999 C320 came to us fitted with a mainsail equipped with two reefing
points, but whereas #1 reef has a single line that pulls in both fore and
aft (thanks to the in-boom pulley block), #2 reef has a line that only hauls
in at the boom end. We currently have no mechanism at the luff and I?m
interested in what other 320 owners have done to remedy this. There are no
reef horns at the gooseneck, and I?d prefer not to fit them given the
possibility of accidental sail damage.? The C320 manual offers no advice in
this area other than to say the second reef line is a single line of 70? in
length.
>>
>> I?m thinking of using a Cunningham for the #2 luff reef, or even just a
short Dyneema line from the gooseneck fitted with a snap shackle or S hook
for quick attachment when required. Do I really need 4:1 purchase or similar
for a reef line??
>>
>> What works best for you?
>>
>> Dennis Cookson
>> #577, 1999
>>
>>
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:59:29 -0400
From: nibj <nibj at mac.com>
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Subject: [C320-list] Anchors redux
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I have been reading the posts about anchors for the 320 but would appreciate
the latest advice.
We have an early model 320 with the very short anchor roller. We cruise the
upper Chesapeake and need an anchor for overnight stops. So far we have only
encountered a muddy bottom. We won?t be out in a hurricane, but, for
example, the gusts tomorrow night are forecast to 30mph which would likely
be the upper end of our comfort level.
We have some sort of heavy Danforth anchor in the chain locker, but it
cannot possibly fit on the roller. So I have to manhandle it over the side
when we anchor (which isn?t hard) and wrestle it up and wash the vile mud
off it, all without the windlass, when we leave the anchorage.
So the obvious question is what anchor should I buy that can live one the
roller without damaging the hull (I don?t want to replace the bow roller
because it looks like an enormous job)? I have seen several people say the
following are OK:
1) Rocna-15: Seems popular. Perhaps it is a bit over sized and the
template suggests a very tight fit. Some people say it doesn?t fit.
2) Mantus-25: this may be a little on the small side. The template suggest
it will fit although the fluke seems to be longer than that of the Rocna.
3) Has anyone used a Mantus Anchor mate successfully?
Can anyone comment about these anchors?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Peter
Tangled #226
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