[C320-list] Second Reef Line Arrangement

[ROBERT MILLER]

Good question, my research didn’t indicate others had noticed any problems with this arrangement but as you note it would be a simple matter to re-route another lower load line  (vang, topping lift) to one of these clutches to lessen the combined load, which is what I may do. 
Rob
Alchemy
Hull #571


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 13, 2020, at 4:07 AM, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I was wondering about that, Rob, it is a quick solution. But does it have a lower working load as a result? Maybe ok for the vang but not the main halyard?
> 
> Dennis Cookson
> #577 1999
> 
> > On 13 Jun 2020, at 03:38, ROBERT MILLER <r.miller at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > I just ordered an extra clutch for the starboard side from Garhauer, but instead of drilling and tapping the plate to mount it, it is ganged to the adjacent clutch. Garhauer supplies the longer bolts so you can do this. There are pictures on the 320 Association site of this set up from others who have done it.
> > Rob Miller
> > Alchemy
> > #571
> > 
> > Sent from my iPad
> > 
> >> On Jun 12, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> 
> >>  Dennis
> >> I will check it out next time I go to the boat (next week) and take a pic for you.As there are four clutches on the starboard side, I must have added one.
> >> Regards
> >> Chris White#449 1997
> >> 
> >> On Friday, 12 June 2020, 15:14:04 BST, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> That’s good to know, Chris. I don’t suppose you have a drawing of the shape/size/location of that plate? I already have three clutches each side - is there room for a fourth?
> >> 
> >> Dennis Cookson
> >> #577 1999
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:10, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Dennis
> >>> That's right I tie off the genoa and spinnaker halyards of on cleats on the mast.I have two cleats each side of the mast.
> >>> I may have added an additional clutch on the starboard side in the past (I've owned the boat for 20 years).You could order one from Garhauer.There is a steel or aluminium plate bonded in below the flat section where the clutches are mounted, so you can drill then tap a secure fixing for a new clutch.Trust Catalina to do a proper job when they built these boats!
> >>> Regards
> >>> Chris White#449 1997
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Friday, 12 June 2020, 11:20:02 BST, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Chris, thanks for this. I assume you don’t bring the genoa or spinnaker halyards into the cockpit, to make room for these reef lines, how do you terminate them?
> >>> 
> >>> Both of these are on my clutches, as is the boom vang. Have you added more cleats at the mast? We could really do with a couple more clutches!
> >>> 
> >>> Dennis Cookson
> >>> #577 1999
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On 11 Jun 2020, at 08:12, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Dennis
> >>>> You can fix the second reef with a luff line attached with a bowline, take the line straight down to a turning block on the deck, via a 30mm SS ring which should be attached to the mainsail shackle at the gooseneck.This line can then go back to one of the line clutches in the cockpit.You may need to add a Garhauer block at the base of the mast.I have organised my lines to cockpit as follows, from left to right:
> >>>> Port side:2nd reef luff1st reef luffTopping lift
> >>>> Starboard side:Boom downhaul1st reef leech
> >>>> 2nd reef leech
> >>>> Main halliard
> >>>> Hope this helps
> >>>> Chris WhiteYacht Dandy #449Hamble River UK 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Wednesday, 3 June 2020, 17:33:03 BST, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Our 1999 C320 came to us fitted with a mainsail equipped with two reefing points, but whereas #1 reef has a single line that pulls in both fore and aft (thanks to the in-boom pulley block), #2 reef has a line that only hauls in at the boom end. We currently have no mechanism at the luff and I’m interested in what other 320 owners have done to remedy this. There are no reef horns at the gooseneck, and I’d prefer not to fit them given the possibility of accidental sail damage. The C320 manual offers no advice in this area other than to say the second reef line is a single line of 70’ in length.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I’m thinking of using a Cunningham for the #2 luff reef, or even just a short Dyneema line from the gooseneck fitted with a snap shackle or S hook for quick attachment when required. Do I really need 4:1 purchase or similar for a reef line? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> What works best for you?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Dennis Cookson
> >>>> #577, 1999
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >> 
> 
>