[C320-list] Second Reef Line Arrangement

[Dennis Cookson]

Scott, I have the same arrangement as you.  It does like a daunting amount of work and expense to add another line on each side, however, it may be possible to fit a stacked deck organiser such as the Garhauer 30-DO-DSTB under each side of the traveler that could give you 2x3 or even 2x4 sheaves each side.

I have room for a fourth clutch on the starboard side of my boat but not the port side, due to the way that the individual clutches have been mounted, unless I relocate some of them.  But how do you know if the aluminium plate extends far enough to tap into?

Perhaps a better option would be to replace the mainsheet clam cleats (which I don’t trust 100%) on each side with a new double clutch from Garhauer or elsewhere.  I certainly have space for that on my port side but might have to move the position of one existing clutch on the starboard side.  Garhauer’s 11-12S dual clutch looks like a decent option at just 2-1/4” wide.  I believe that there should be an excellent chance of affixing this to the embedded aluminium plate, and killing two birds with one stone.

Maybe someone has already tried this?  Please post results if you have.

Dennis Cookson
#577




> On 15 Jun 2020, at 19:28, Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com> wrote:
> 
> Two questions about this:
> 
> 1. On my boat there are only four slots through the line organizer on each side below the traveler. One is devoted to the mainsheet so I'm not sure how I would route a line through a fourth line stopper. How do you avoid that problem?
> 2. My mainsheet is led to the winch above a large jam cleat that is very close to the three line stoppers. I don't think there is room to add a fourth stopper on the outside without removing that jam cleat. The jam cleat holds the mainsheet during reefing operations or whenever the winch is in use for something else, so I don't think I'd want to remove it. Again, how is that problem avoided?
> 
> On 6/12/2020 10:38 PM, ROBERT MILLER wrote:
>> I just ordered an extra clutch for the starboard side from Garhauer, but instead of drilling and tapping the plate to mount it, it is ganged to the adjacent clutch. Garhauer supplies the longer bolts so you can do this. There are pictures on the 320 Association site of this set up from others who have done it.
>> Rob Miller
>> Alchemy
>> #571
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Jun 12, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>  Dennis
>>> I will check it out next time I go to the boat (next week) and take a pic for you.As there are four clutches on the starboard side, I must have added one.
>>> Regards
>>> Chris White#449 1997
>>> 
>>> On Friday, 12 June 2020, 15:14:04 BST, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s good to know, Chris.  I don’t suppose you have a drawing of the shape/size/location of that plate? I already have three clutches each side - is there room for a fourth?
>>> 
>>> Dennis Cookson
>>> #577 1999
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 12 Jun 2020, at 12:10, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Dennis
>>>> That's right I tie off the genoa and spinnaker halyards of on cleats on the mast.I have two cleats each side of the mast.
>>>> I may have added an additional clutch on the starboard side in the past (I've owned the boat for 20 years).You could order one from Garhauer.There is a steel or aluminium plate bonded in below the flat section where the clutches are mounted, so you can drill then tap a secure fixing for a new clutch.Trust Catalina to do a proper job when they built these boats!
>>>> Regards
>>>> Chris White#449 1997
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  On Friday, 12 June 2020, 11:20:02 BST, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris, thanks for this.  I assume you don’t bring the genoa or spinnaker halyards into the cockpit, to make room for these reef lines, how do you terminate them?
>>>> 
>>>> Both of these are on my clutches, as is the boom vang. Have you added more cleats at the mast?  We could really do with a couple more clutches!
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis Cookson
>>>> #577 1999
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 Jun 2020, at 08:12, Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>> You can fix the second reef with a luff line attached with a bowline, take the line straight down to a turning block on the deck, via a 30mm SS ring which should be attached to the mainsail shackle at the gooseneck.This line can then go back to one of the line clutches in the cockpit.You may need to add a Garhauer block at the base of the mast.I have organised my lines to cockpit as follows, from left to right:
>>>>> Port side:2nd reef luff1st reef luffTopping lift
>>>>> Starboard side:Boom downhaul1st reef leech
>>>>> 2nd reef leech
>>>>> Main halliard
>>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>> Chris WhiteYacht Dandy #449Hamble River UK
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>    On Wednesday, 3 June 2020, 17:33:03 BST, Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Our 1999 C320 came to us fitted with a mainsail equipped with two reefing points, but whereas #1 reef has a single line that pulls in both fore and aft (thanks to the in-boom pulley block), #2 reef has a line that only hauls in at the boom end. We currently have no mechanism at the luff and I’m interested in what other 320 owners have done to remedy this. There are no reef horns at the gooseneck, and I’d prefer not to fit them given the possibility of accidental sail damage.  The C320 manual offers no advice in this area other than to say the second reef line is a single line of 70’ in length.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m thinking of using a Cunningham for the #2 luff reef, or even just a short Dyneema line from the gooseneck fitted with a snap shackle or S hook for quick attachment when required. Do I really need 4:1 purchase or similar for a reef line?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What works best for you?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis Cookson
>>>>> #577, 1999
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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