[C320-list] Refrigerator Removal/Installation
John Morrison
sail-ability at sympatico.ca
Wed Nov 18 08:03:39 PST 2020
I just changed my AB fridge system for the Nova Cool machine which draws less than 3A. I gave the AB machine to a boating neighbour and it continues to work well. The Nova Cool does a better job of keeping stuff frozen.
JohnM
1999#574
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> On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
>
> This job is on my list this winter. Mine died in August. My boat is 1996, #350. Not really sure if the unit I have is original or if a PO replaced it along the way. I've had the boat since 2012.
>
> --
> Doug Treff
> doug at treff.us
>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 1:54 PM, SARA SCHROEDER wrote:
>>
>> I have the original Adler Barber unit and my boat is 20 years old. She
>> is hull #707. Compressor still works great, although I've heard that
>> there are more efficient units now. Mine draws 5amps when running.
>> I'll use it until it dies.
>> Sara Schroeder
>> Wandering Star
>> #707/2000
>> Seattle WA
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:15:41 -0800
>>> From: RONALD HODEL <ronandgail2 at me.com>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Cutless Bearing Project
>>> Message-ID: <549F9BD7-A0A4-410F-9056-357108DFEDBA at me.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> My AB Compressor is working just fine and it has been running constantly for the last six years. Of course saying that I?ll probably go out tonight. My hull number is 1070
>>>
>>> Ron Hodel
>>> Lokomaikai
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:07 PM, Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?All I know is that my fridge seems to be working well after fifteen years. But I am following this thread carefully, because, well 15 years is a long time for any fridge. Anyone with a close hull number please add your experiences to this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> Hoop Dancer #1076
>>>> Sidney, BC
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Troy,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a PSS dripless, you might as well replace the bellows at the same time. This requires you to remove the shaft from the coupler, but I am guessing that it is time for the bellows if it is time for the cutless bearing. I note this because I did my dripless bellows when I did my bearing. What I did not know is that our propeller shaft requires a spacer. So, I ordered the bellows but the diameter was slightly too big. When I called PSS, they said I could reuse the spacer, but it is not preferred. I did not realize there was a spacer when I ordered the bellows. This would not have been a big deal for you, being on the hard for 5.5 months, but I was paying for yard time by the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used a standard two-jaw puller (Craftsman) to remove the propeller. Just make sure you put the cap on the end that makes a connection with the shaft, pulling the propeller off, or you will dimple your shaft (as I did, since I still have the bronze shaft).
>>>>>
>>>>> I also regreased my Max-prop at the same time and replaced all the screws and cotter pins, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used the BACK bearing, as well, and it worked perfectly. I was a bit worried because it was slightly shorter than the length of the strut. I tried to center it (fore-aft) in the strut. The tool does work very well. My buddy (different make) was extremely jealous, as he pays the yard to do his.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> ?94, #121
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:00 PM, Mark Cole <boatnboot at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Troy;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used the bearing puller a couple of years ago and it worked great. There is a form to fill out on the C320.org <http://c320.org/> website to get the tools sent to you. You need to be a member and log into the website to see the form. It is under the tab "C320 Resources?. Fill it out and the tool loaner administrator will get ahold of you to work out shipping. When I used the tools, Bruce Stumpp was the administrator. You will need to pay shipping both ways and that isn?t cheap, but it was still worth it. I was able to hang onto the tools for a couple of weeks and Bruce will tell you if you should send the package back to him or on to another member.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> Fiddler?s Green, #8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our boat is on the hard for the next 5 1/2 months. I'm going to replace
>>>>>>> the cutless bearing. I will be ordering the BACK bearing from Duramax
>>>>>>> this week or next. Trying to understand the 'protocol' for borrowing the
>>>>>>> prop puller and bearing tool. Once I have my target date set for doing
>>>>>>> this work, what is the general consensus on how long I can keep the tools
>>>>>>> etc. I?m not planning on keeping the tools any longer than necessary but
>>>>>>> I'm also not planning on an expletive filled day either...when the project
>>>>>>> goes sideways as boat projects are want to do, I'd be interested in hearing
>>>>>>> what the general tool borrowing etiquette is. Can the current US Toolbox
>>>>>>> Coordinator please advise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>>>> Hull #514
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:31:59 -0500
>>> From: Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Cutless Bearing Project
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <CAEZi75+Vd9wO-Mr6VNhfmgqi8dTRmfrna7Lg+V4NFLTd9RpoPw at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>>
>>> I am hull #1075. Almost hesitant to say mine is also still working well. It
>>> is good to follow this topic because you never know what is ahead.
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 9:07 PM Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All I know is that my fridge seems to be working well after fifteen years.
>>>> But I am following this thread carefully, because, well 15 years is a long
>>>> time for any fridge. Anyone with a close hull number please add your
>>>> experiences to this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> Hoop Dancer #1076
>>>> Sidney, BC
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Troy,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a PSS dripless, you might as well replace the bellows at the
>>>> same time. This requires you to remove the shaft from the coupler, but I am
>>>> guessing that it is time for the bellows if it is time for the cutless
>>>> bearing. I note this because I did my dripless bellows when I did my
>>>> bearing. What I did not know is that our propeller shaft requires a spacer.
>>>> So, I ordered the bellows but the diameter was slightly too big. When I
>>>> called PSS, they said I could reuse the spacer, but it is not preferred. I
>>>> did not realize there was a spacer when I ordered the bellows. This would
>>>> not have been a big deal for you, being on the hard for 5.5 months, but I
>>>> was paying for yard time by the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used a standard two-jaw puller (Craftsman) to remove the propeller.
>>>> Just make sure you put the cap on the end that makes a connection with the
>>>> shaft, pulling the propeller off, or you will dimple your shaft (as I did,
>>>> since I still have the bronze shaft).
>>>>>
>>>>> I also regreased my Max-prop at the same time and replaced all the
>>>> screws and cotter pins, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used the BACK bearing, as well, and it worked perfectly. I was a bit
>>>> worried because it was slightly shorter than the length of the strut. I
>>>> tried to center it (fore-aft) in the strut. The tool does work very well.
>>>> My buddy (different make) was extremely jealous, as he pays the yard to do
>>>> his.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> ?94, #121
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:00 PM, Mark Cole <boatnboot at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Troy;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used the bearing puller a couple of years ago and it worked great.
>>>> There is a form to fill out on the C320.org <http://c320.org/> website to
>>>> get the tools sent to you. You need to be a member and log into the website
>>>> to see the form. It is under the tab "C320 Resources?. Fill it out and the
>>>> tool loaner administrator will get ahold of you to work out shipping. When
>>>> I used the tools, Bruce Stumpp was the administrator. You will need to pay
>>>> shipping both ways and that isn?t cheap, but it was still worth it. I was
>>>> able to hang onto the tools for a couple of weeks and Bruce will tell you
>>>> if you should send the package back to him or on to another member.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> Fiddler?s Green, #8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our boat is on the hard for the next 5 1/2 months. I'm going to
>>>> replace
>>>>>>> the cutless bearing. I will be ordering the BACK bearing from Duramax
>>>>>>> this week or next. Trying to understand the 'protocol' for borrowing
>>>> the
>>>>>>> prop puller and bearing tool. Once I have my target date set for doing
>>>>>>> this work, what is the general consensus on how long I can keep the
>>>> tools
>>>>>>> etc. I?m not planning on keeping the tools any longer than necessary
>>>> but
>>>>>>> I'm also not planning on an expletive filled day either...when the
>>>> project
>>>>>>> goes sideways as boat projects are want to do, I'd be interested in
>>>> hearing
>>>>>>> what the general tool borrowing etiquette is. Can the current US
>>>> Toolbox
>>>>>>> Coordinator please advise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>>>> Hull #514
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian McLamb
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:45:25 +0000 (UTC)
>>> From: kskis at aol.com
>>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Removal/Installation
>>> Message-ID: <267199028.4815499.1605188725470 at mail.yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> Not sure if I remember see this posted previously or if it should be a new thread.? Has anyone replaced their original refrigerator with one that can switch between ac shore power and dc battery automatically or manually?? Also, I have heard the new replacements consume much less energy than the originals.? If so, any details would be much appreciated.? Neil Kornblatt, Harmony #973
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2020 11:01 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Removal/Installation
>>>
>>> I do a quick search and the auto industry started using 134 in 93 and was changed over by 95. I would assume the boating industry was changing at the same time.
>>>
>>> Art Harden
>>> Catalina 320 ?Tortuga? #243
>>> 937-477-5544
>>>
>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ? Freon is the Kleenex of the refrigerant world.? With the ability to morph
>>>> into whatever refrigerant the TM owner is marketing these days.? I have
>>>> seen Freon R134a sold online.
>>>>
>>>> I think the newer stuff like R134a are all HFCs... Hydro cs. Chloro...
>>>> pretty sure Jeff is right about current scientific consensus...both are bad
>>>> just in different ways.? ? In fact I though I read somewhere that the HFCs
>>>> are considerably worse for greenhouse gases.? Some body should probably
>>>> fact check that...
>>>>
>>>> I would actually be surprised if any of the C320s have R22 in them.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:43:41 +0000
>>> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
>>> To: Catalina list <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Removal/Installation
>>> Message-ID: <D5AAB535-75E2-405B-B470-0387893AB3EE at skyflyer.co.uk>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Not sure why you?d need the dual power option? My new (this year) fridge draws under 4 amps when its running (obviously it doesn't run continuously) and the shore powered battery charger can put more than that back into the battery - or put it another way it is effectively supplying the fridge directly when we are on shore power.
>>>
>>> The old fridge used to take closer to 7 amps.
>>>
>>> BUT I do think the amount of insulation around the icebox on the C320 is very minimal. I?d love to upgrade it but cant see any non-destructive way of removing the corian worktop to get at it. I?m sure extra insulation and of course remembering to plug the drain hole would get the cycling down and hence reduce overall power usage,
>>>
>>> Graeme
>>> #366, 1996
>>>
>>>> On 12 Nov 2020, at 13:45, kskis at aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if I remember see this posted previously or if it should be a new thread. Has anyone replaced their original refrigerator with one that can switch between ac shore power and dc battery automatically or manually? Also, I have heard the new replacements consume much less energy than the originals. If so, any details would be much appreciated. Neil Kornblatt, Harmony #973
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Art Harden <artstree at aol.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2020 11:01 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Removal/Installation
>>>>
>>>> I do a quick search and the auto industry started using 134 in 93 and was changed over by 95. I would assume the boating industry was changing at the same time.
>>>>
>>>> Art Harden
>>>> Catalina 320 ?Tortuga? #243
>>>> 937-477-5544
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ? Freon is the Kleenex of the refrigerant world. With the ability to morph
>>>>> into whatever refrigerant the TM owner is marketing these days. I have
>>>>> seen Freon R134a sold online.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the newer stuff like R134a are all HFCs... Hydro cs. Chloro...
>>>>> pretty sure Jeff is right about current scientific consensus...both are bad
>>>>> just in different ways. In fact I though I read somewhere that the HFCs
>>>>> are considerably worse for greenhouse gases. Some body should probably
>>>>> fact check that...
>>>>>
>>>>> I would actually be surprised if any of the C320s have R22 in them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:37:08 +0000
>>> From: "ptormey at 4square.net" <ptormey at 4square.net>
>>> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Cutless Bearing Project
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <MN2PR07MB5966DA7B57433CD45DBA27A6A4E70 at MN2PR07MB5966.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> #1037 i had to replace the compressor because it kept quitting with the indicator lights on the command component indication low voltage. I replaced the module after using my vom to confirm there was a volt drop on startup. But that didn't fix it. So a new compressor, $1350! Plus install. So cold beer for another 25yrs.
>>>
>>> Pat Tormey
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 8:31:59 AM
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Cutless Bearing Project
>>>
>>> I am hull #1075. Almost hesitant to say mine is also still working well. It
>>> is good to follow this topic because you never know what is ahead.
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 9:07 PM Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All I know is that my fridge seems to be working well after fifteen years.
>>>> But I am following this thread carefully, because, well 15 years is a long
>>>> time for any fridge. Anyone with a close hull number please add your
>>>> experiences to this discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> Hoop Dancer #1076
>>>> Sidney, BC
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Troy,
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a PSS dripless, you might as well replace the bellows at the
>>>> same time. This requires you to remove the shaft from the coupler, but I am
>>>> guessing that it is time for the bellows if it is time for the cutless
>>>> bearing. I note this because I did my dripless bellows when I did my
>>>> bearing. What I did not know is that our propeller shaft requires a spacer.
>>>> So, I ordered the bellows but the diameter was slightly too big. When I
>>>> called PSS, they said I could reuse the spacer, but it is not preferred. I
>>>> did not realize there was a spacer when I ordered the bellows. This would
>>>> not have been a big deal for you, being on the hard for 5.5 months, but I
>>>> was paying for yard time by the day.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used a standard two-jaw puller (Craftsman) to remove the propeller.
>>>> Just make sure you put the cap on the end that makes a connection with the
>>>> shaft, pulling the propeller off, or you will dimple your shaft (as I did,
>>>> since I still have the bronze shaft).
>>>>>
>>>>> I also regreased my Max-prop at the same time and replaced all the
>>>> screws and cotter pins, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> I used the BACK bearing, as well, and it worked perfectly. I was a bit
>>>> worried because it was slightly shorter than the length of the strut. I
>>>> tried to center it (fore-aft) in the strut. The tool does work very well.
>>>> My buddy (different make) was extremely jealous, as he pays the yard to do
>>>> his.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> ?94, #121
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 11:00 PM, Mark Cole <boatnboot at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Troy;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used the bearing puller a couple of years ago and it worked great.
>>>> There is a form to fill out on the C320.org <http://c320.org/> website to
>>>> get the tools sent to you. You need to be a member and log into the website
>>>> to see the form. It is under the tab "C320 Resources?. Fill it out and the
>>>> tool loaner administrator will get ahold of you to work out shipping. When
>>>> I used the tools, Bruce Stumpp was the administrator. You will need to pay
>>>> shipping both ways and that isn?t cheap, but it was still worth it. I was
>>>> able to hang onto the tools for a couple of weeks and Bruce will tell you
>>>> if you should send the package back to him or on to another member.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> Fiddler?s Green, #8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 10, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our boat is on the hard for the next 5 1/2 months. I'm going to
>>>> replace
>>>>>>> the cutless bearing. I will be ordering the BACK bearing from Duramax
>>>>>>> this week or next. Trying to understand the 'protocol' for borrowing
>>>> the
>>>>>>> prop puller and bearing tool. Once I have my target date set for doing
>>>>>>> this work, what is the general consensus on how long I can keep the
>>>> tools
>>>>>>> etc. I?m not planning on keeping the tools any longer than necessary
>>>> but
>>>>>>> I'm also not planning on an expletive filled day either...when the
>>>> project
>>>>>>> goes sideways as boat projects are want to do, I'd be interested in
>>>> hearing
>>>>>>> what the general tool borrowing etiquette is. Can the current US
>>>> Toolbox
>>>>>>> Coordinator please advise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>>>> Hull #514
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian McLamb
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 11:56:34 -0500
>>> From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <mailman.27695.1605204895.3539.c320-list-catalina320.com at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Well, the tropical storm wasn?t that bad, but we almost lost Sonas to a fluke occurrence.
>>>
>>> Either a freak wave or a mini-tornado slammed into her and broke off the 18-inch-diameter piling that was taking much of the beating from the storm. Immediately, Sonas slammed into an equally large piling on the other side and decapitated it.
>>>
>>> Surprisingly, I can?t find any damage on the boat. Still, I?m going to arm-twist Geico/BoatUS into paying for a hull survey to look for structural problems as well as paying for the pilings. (They belong to the condo association, but I?m responsible if I damage them ?)
>>>
>>> At 3 a.m., I found her hanging to just two remaining taut windward lines and had no way to get on the boat because the broken pilings were keeping her off the dock. Luckily, they held as the storm weakened. I managed to straighten things out after first light.
>>>
>>> Now the fun begins. Insurance claim. Finding a dock company to replace the pilings. Jury rigging docking lines until that happens.
>>>
>>> Be over, 2020.
>>>
>>> Jack Brennan
>>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:18:35 -0500
>>> From: "Rick Smith" <ricksmith4333 at gmail.com>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>> Message-ID: <89D1DBD1E46B4FDBBEFB2EDB5C3EF154 at RickSmithPC>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> I highly encourage you to get a survey!!!
>>>
>>> I have a ?lesson learned? story to back up this recommendation. In a recent big storm on Lake Lanier (north of Atlanta) our Wavelength 24 Ishtar that lives in a slip on a lift got hammered by incredible shifting of the floating dock and access bridge (we're the first boat on the dock) -- there was visible damage (a dock stanchion punched a hole in her side) and we got that repaired and Geico/BoatUS paid for it. Then last weekend the boat went out to race for the first time since that bad storm...and there was significant structural damage with a compromised, cracked, and delaminating bulkhead -- the boat was immediately brought back to the slip and inspected by a professional who called for a whole new bulkhead etc etc etc which will likely run somewhere between $2,000 and $3,000 all-in after boat comes out of water, etc. So -- how now to go back to insurance and get them to add this additional claim to the original damage??? Unlikely they'll do anything. Lesson learned: get a
>> s
>>> urvey after a major storm!!!
>>>
>>> Rick Smith
>>> Layla 136 (and Wavelength Ishtar #73)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jack Brennan
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:56 AM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>>
>>> Well, the tropical storm wasn?t that bad, but we almost lost Sonas to a fluke occurrence.
>>>
>>> Either a freak wave or a mini-tornado slammed into her and broke off the 18-inch-diameter piling that was taking much of the beating from the storm. Immediately, Sonas slammed into an equally large piling on the other side and decapitated it.
>>>
>>> Surprisingly, I can?t find any damage on the boat. Still, I?m going to arm-twist Geico/BoatUS into paying for a hull survey to look for structural problems as well as paying for the pilings. (They belong to the condo association, but I?m responsible if I damage them ?)
>>>
>>> At 3 a.m., I found her hanging to just two remaining taut windward lines and had no way to get on the boat because the broken pilings were keeping her off the dock. Luckily, they held as the storm weakened. I managed to straighten things out after first light.
>>>
>>> Now the fun begins. Insurance claim. Finding a dock company to replace the pilings. Jury rigging docking lines until that happens.
>>>
>>> Be over, 2020.
>>>
>>> Jack Brennan
>>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:53:58 -0500
>>> From: Diane Fowler <dianeflr at aol.com>
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>> Message-ID: <417DC607-4E71-43E6-9AC4-104CE7A62D34 at aol.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Wow!
>>>
>>> Hope it all works out.
>>>
>>> Geico is a great company
>>>
>>> Captain Diane Fowler, CRS, GRI, e-PRO
>>>
>>> Nautical Realty Group, Inc.
>>> Let me help make your sale a breeze.
>>>
>>> 239-850-4935
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Rick Smith <ricksmith4333 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ?I highly encourage you to get a survey!!!
>>>>
>>>> I have a ?lesson learned? story to back up this recommendation. In a recent big storm on Lake Lanier (north of Atlanta) our Wavelength 24 Ishtar that lives in a slip on a lift got hammered by incredible shifting of the floating dock and access bridge (we're the first boat on the dock) -- there was visible damage (a dock stanchion punched a hole in her side) and we got that repaired and Geico/BoatUS paid for it. Then last weekend the boat went out to race for the first time since that bad storm...and there was significant structural damage with a compromised, cracked, and delaminating bulkhead -- the boat was immediately brought back to the slip and inspected by a professional who called for a whole new bulkhead etc etc etc which will likely run somewhere between $2,000 and $3,000 all-in after boat comes out of water, etc. So -- how now to go back to insurance and get them to add this additional claim to the original damage??? Unlikely they'll do anything. Lesson learned: get
>> a
>>> survey after a major storm!!!
>>>>
>>>> Rick Smith
>>>> Layla 136 (and Wavelength Ishtar #73)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jack Brennan
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 11:56 AM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>>>
>>>> Well, the tropical storm wasn?t that bad, but we almost lost Sonas to a fluke occurrence.
>>>>
>>>> Either a freak wave or a mini-tornado slammed into her and broke off the 18-inch-diameter piling that was taking much of the beating from the storm. Immediately, Sonas slammed into an equally large piling on the other side and decapitated it.
>>>>
>>>> Surprisingly, I can?t find any damage on the boat. Still, I?m going to arm-twist Geico/BoatUS into paying for a hull survey to look for structural problems as well as paying for the pilings. (They belong to the condo association, but I?m responsible if I damage them ?)
>>>>
>>>> At 3 a.m., I found her hanging to just two remaining taut windward lines and had no way to get on the boat because the broken pilings were keeping her off the dock. Luckily, they held as the storm weakened. I managed to straighten things out after first light.
>>>>
>>>> Now the fun begins. Insurance claim. Finding a dock company to replace the pilings. Jury rigging docking lines until that happens.
>>>>
>>>> Be over, 2020.
>>>>
>>>> Jack Brennan
>>>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
>>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:51:26 -0500
>>> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
>>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>> Message-ID: <5fad761e.1c69fb81.d0fa2.9cfc at mx.google.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Rick, Jack,
>>> We have had two major claims with Boat US and in both instances they made sure everything was repaired to my satisfaction with no argument or gotcha?s. Which is the main reason I stay with them although I can get coverage ?cheaper?.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chris Burti
>>> Commitment #867
>>> Farmville, NC
>>>
>>> From: Rick Smith
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 12:18 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:09:35 -0500
>>> From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
>>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>> Message-ID: <108f6b7a-6d3c-4c5f-a29a-5b4e54831bd9 at www.fastmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> I'm curious to hear if those claims were pre- or post-Geico takeover?
>>>
>>> I've heard varying opinions on their claims process since Geico took over.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Doug Treff
>>> doug at treff.us
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Chris Burti wrote:
>>>> Rick, Jack,
>>>> We have had two major claims with Boat US and in both instances they
>>>> made sure everything was repaired to my satisfaction with no argument
>>>> or gotcha?s. Which is the main reason I stay with them although I can
>>>> get coverage ?cheaper?.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chris Burti
>>>> Commitment #867
>>>> Farmville, NC
>>>>
>>>> From: Rick Smith
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 12:18 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>>>
>>>> I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 11
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:14:48 -0500
>>> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
>>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>> Message-ID: <5fad7b98.1c69fb81.ad45d.4c90 at mx.google.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> One before and the latter after. What was really interesting was that Geico did not quibble over some of the incidentals that I was expecting them to question. Again, I was fully satisfied.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris Burti
>>> Farmville, NC
>>>
>>> From: Doug Treff
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2020 1:10 PM
>>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hurricane!
>>>
>>> C
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 3884, Issue 1
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