[C320-list] Pre-Purchase Survey Recommendations - Need Advice

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Mike:  Only speaking from personal experience.  I purchased our Harmony 3 years ago and paid for 3 surveys on 3 different boats before finding "the one."  I probably could have avoided one or two of those surveys if I wasn't in such a hurry.  It was an expensive lesson (that lead me to do my own "pre-survey survey" by myself, my camera, etc.)   I'm only mentioning as a way to put out there the possibility of walking away from any boat/deal that doesn't make you absolutely "joyful"  in the possibilities for the purchase.  In this case either embracing the work to be done by yourself or making sure you find a yard that you are sure will take care of the list of to do's, at the right price.  
This boat seems to have many more issues than average.  When I was looking I saw about 10 boats in-person and none of them had the number and kind of issues listed by your surveyor.  I have highlighted below the items that would give me concern because of either the cost of repair or the possibility that it points to other possible hidden problems.  Good luck in your search.  Neil Kornblatt Harmony #973 2004

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Rosenberg <martinlrosenberg at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Sent: Tue, Sep 22, 2020 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pre-Purchase Survey Recommendations - Need Advice

Mike,
  Did you say you want a family sailing boat? This one sounds like months
(at least) of maintenance work before it's ready to sail with a family.
Martin

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 2:02 PM Mike Johnson <mikejohnson999 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Everyone - Hopefully in a couple of weeks I can call myself a Catalina
> 320 owner. I think these boats are the perfect first family sailing boat
> and I can't wait to get on the water. I am also particularly encouraged by
> this community of owners who are ready to give advice and knowledge
> whenever someone needs it. (Thank you!)
> We have an accepted offer in on a 2000 Catalina 320 and just received back
> the prepurchase survey report. Without going into too much detail, I would
> like to ask this group approximately how much it would cost to have the
> following work done. I realize much of this work could potentially be
> completed by myself but I am in need of approximate values to go back to
> the seller and finalize the sale. Of course, some might term many of these
> items just normal wear and tear but others may think differently.
> What is the consensus/advice/approximate values on the following list of
> surveyor recommendations:
>
> Attend to the following about the spar, sails and rigging:
>
>  *
> Almost 20 year old standing rigging. Industry standards would suggest the
> age of the standing rigging is cause enough for replacement. What appears
> to be pits in the lower swages of the port and starboard upper shrouds were
> visible after cleaning corrosion from swages. 
Abundant corrosion on chain
> plate caps, gaps in chain plate bedding and what appears to be cracks on
> the headstay chainplate after cleaning corrosion with wire brush suggest
> the need to remove chainplates for inspection of portions hidden from view,
> re-bedding and in the case of the head stay likely replacement.
>  *
> Replace the worn components of the running rigging; jib sheets, spare
> halyard, main halyard mainsheet and boom vang lines.
>  *
> Re-stitch sacrificial cover on genoa.
>  *
> Replace cracked hoses on a wholesale basis below the head sink; head sink
> drain, ice box drain and head intake plumbing.
>  *
> Replace rusted hose clamps on fittings of holding tank below starboard
> salon settee. Clean evidence of leaks directly below fittings.
>  *
> Fully seat hose over nipple of galley raw water foot pump intake seacock
> and add secondary hose clamp.
>  *
> Renew antifouling paint.
>  *
> Service toilet that would not draw in flush water.
>  *
> Attend to heavy corrosion on water heater, cure leak in plumbing of outlet
> side.
>
> Attend to the following about the engine:
>
>  *
> Change all fluids, filters, set valves, have injectors serviced and
> perform all other routine maintenance procedures.
>  *
> Replace cracked hoses for raw water injection/ exhaust vented loop
> antisiphon fitting.
>  *
> Clean and treat corrosion on engine mounts, adjust mounts to better dampen
> the excessive vibration of the engine.
>  *
> Cure the ongoing leak from the engine’s raw water pump at engine speeds in
> excess of 2900 r.p.m.
>  *
> Replace the cracked hose for the water heater’s engine heat exchange
> plumbing. Replace cracked exhaust hose from muffler to discharge fitting.
>  *
> Sediment in coolant overflow tank, cloudy coolant in heat exchanger,
> suggest the need to service the engine cooling system.
>
> Evidence of long-standing leaks in cabin interior present as damaged cabin
> sole and moisture trails on the hull topsides inboard. This damage is
> particularly bad in the forward cabin and salon, inboard of head
> compartment. Persistent rain on survey day showed these areas were actively
> leaking. Cleaning lenses of deck hatches, port lights and re-bedding chain
> plates, stanchions and other deck hardware will all work to slow these
> leaks. Replacement of cabin sole may be required as the veneers have lifted
> and sole appears wavy in these areas.
>
>
>
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