[C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
Jack Brennan
jackbrennan at bellsouth.net
Tue Aug 3 20:00:48 PDT 2021
Let me be a dissenter here, Sara.
For many of us, everything on the boat is 15 or 20 years old. If you subscribe to the theory that everything of that age has to go, you will end up with an entirely new boat … and a lot less money in the bank.
Yeah, my fridge had to be replaced when I bought my boat, and my macerator pump, and my shower pump, and my bilge pump, and my rigging, but there are many items on my boat that are functioning quite well despite their age. Take the time to examine them before you replace them.
Hoses will show signs of wear and drip long before they split open. They are designed to avoid catastrophic failure. Carry an old bicycle tube and some hose clamps. If one goes, you can patch it until you get to the next port.
My propane hose is 20 years old and appears fine. So are the hoses to the water heater. My water lines work well. The hose from the anchor locker to the through hull looks like new. The scupper hoses are great, although I had to replace one because the PO cut it before the bank repossessed the boat.
I did replace all of the hoses on the diesel when I bought the boat. And I replaced my fuel system from the tank to the fuel pump. I hated the stock fuel filter. Once I replaced it with a Racor 500, I thought, What the hell, do it all. The old hoses didn’t fit anyway.
And never trust a hose clamp. Even though they claim to be stainless steel, some parts of them never are. I learned this the difficult way, when the clamp broke on the hose leading from the holding tank to the through hull. Yecch.
I guess what I’m saying is that replacing stuff can become an addiction on a boat. It’s not always necessary.
Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
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From: SARA SCHROEDER
Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:05 PM
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
Ugh....I knew someone would suggest replacing all the waste hoses while I'm in there. Yes, they are 21 years old and have never been replaced. I've checked them many times and they seem ok but 21 years is 21 years. So I guess I'm adding another "fun" project to the list!
Sara
Wandering Star
2000/#707
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:13:49 -0700
> > From: Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net>
> > To: C320 Blog <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > Message-ID: <4B9BDB03-15EA-4BD8-93E9-94767A6A6287 at comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> >
> > Sara
> > Wandering Star
> > 2000/#707
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 19:27:37 -0600
> > From: Darren Hulbert <dhulbert at me.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > Message-ID: <A01035DF-BBE3-43D7-AAE4-BC2D829A2A63 at me.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> >
> > Butyl tape
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > >
> > > Sara
> > > Wandering Star
> > > 2000/#707
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 22:18:21 -0400
> > From: John Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > Message-ID: <EC3F5D6F-319C-4993-ACD4-AD4347F4E9B6 at sympatico.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Yup butyl tape works as well as 3m4200.
> > JohnM
> > 1999#574
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Darren Hulbert <dhulbert at me.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > >
> > > Butyl tape
> > >
> > >> On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > >>
> > >> Sara
> > >> Wandering Star
> > >> 2000/#707
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 08:02:10 -0400
> > From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
> > To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > Message-ID: <9db49a4c-f323-4dbc-a58e-ee5a13a13957 at www.fastmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> >
> > This stuff:
> >
> > https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> >
> > And the best part... This roll will last you years because it doesn't dry out and harden like a tube of sealant would.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Treff
> > doug at treff.us
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner wrote:
> > > Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the
> > > aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the
> > > track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around
> > > the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant
> > > underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it
> > > once I take the fitting off.
> > >
> > > Sara
> > > Wandering Star
> > > 2000/#707
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 08:07:26 -0400
> > From: Jeff Smith <svsailmates512 at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > Message-ID:
> > <CABpVgjhLZspAVo62VciJaF6krmvBhmcrYqB9J3Wn-uf6bi_hKA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I used 4200 to do my diesel and fresh water fills on the stern. As Doug
> > said, though, I am getting tired of buying a $20 tube and using $2 of it
> > only to have the rest harden.
> >
> > Having said that, the leak in your head may also be from the Traveller. If
> > you need to re-bed it, as well, it may be cost effective to use 4200. I had
> > water in my head but it was coming from the traveller bolts.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 8:02 AM Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
> >
> > > This stuff:
> > >
> > > https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > >
> > > And the best part... This roll will last you years because it doesn't dry
> > > out and harden like a tube of sealant would.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Doug Treff
> > > doug at treff.us
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner wrote:
> > > > Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the
> > > > aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the
> > > > track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around
> > > > the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant
> > > > underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it
> > > > once I take the fitting off.
> > > >
> > > > Sara
> > > > Wandering Star
> > > > 2000/#707
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 08:46:21 -0400
> > From: Joe Geiger <joe.geiger at gmail.com>
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > Message-ID: <F87DC5CA-46A2-400C-BCAA-FDD9C35B59A7 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I second Darren?s recommendation. It?s way easier and less messy than bedding compound or silicone sealant.
> >
> > Joe
> > --
> > Joe Geiger
> > Vega #722
> > Greenwich Cove, RI
> >
> > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Darren Hulbert <dhulbert at me.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > >
> > > Butyl tape
> > >
> > >> On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > >>
> > >> Sara
> > >> Wandering Star
> > >> 2000/#707
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> > End of C320-list Digest, Vol 4069, Issue 1
> > ******************************************
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 20:27:53 -0400
> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> Message-ID:
> <CA+rGV8b3Hq5wCLvpu3HxDr9XodvLSD2ciuW3CZbAPJJgBtwW1g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Sara
>
> Go to marine how to and read up on using the butyl tape. A proper repair
> will address any damage (hopefully none) done to the core in that area as
> well as ensure proper sealant on not only the flange but also the screws.
> You can see how to go about this on that site. Keep in mind that you may
> need to use some thickened epoxy to repair any water damage if you find
> any.
>
> I bought two rolls of bed it tape 5 years ago. The only places I wouldn?t
> recco bed it is for rebedding the deadlights and also for rebedding hatch
> lenses. There you need a proper adhesive/sealant. Bed it is not an
> adhesive so you can use it in areas that you need 'holding power'.
>
> Regards and good luck
>
> Troy Dunn
> Hull #514
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 20:29:19 -0400
> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> Message-ID:
> <CA+rGV8ZjTsBDoqgVt5B9Cg8J1yUkL42Tfx3XucA0a6nr3CWqew at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Ugh?that should have said can't use it, dang it.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 8:27 PM Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sara
> >
> > Go to marine how to and read up on using the butyl tape. A proper repair
> > will address any damage (hopefully none) done to the core in that area as
> > well as ensure proper sealant on not only the flange but also the screws.
> > You can see how to go about this on that site. Keep in mind that you may
> > need to use some thickened epoxy to repair any water damage if you find
> > any.
> >
> > I bought two rolls of bed it tape 5 years ago. The only places I
> > wouldn?t recco bed it is for rebedding the deadlights and also for
> > rebedding hatch lenses. There you need a proper adhesive/sealant. Bed
> > it is not an adhesive so you can use it in areas that you need 'holding
> > power'.
> >
> > Regards and good luck
> >
> > Troy Dunn
> > Hull #514
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 01:04:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Hupe <hoopdtwo at yahoo.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> Message-ID: <12798675.1722555.1627952681245 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Sara-
> I'm guessing that you need to remove the waste pump out hose from the fitting to be able to lift up the fitting at least enough to be able to clean the fitting and deck mating surfaces and apply the tape (or to be able to completely remove the fitting if any deck repair with epoxy is first needed).? If it hasn't been done before based on your hull age, it may also be advisable to replace the waste pump out hose from your tank to the fitting now. And ..... if you are in any doubt about your waste hoses integrity, maybe "do the dirty" and also replace the waste hose from the head into the tank.? I replaced ALL, as well as the smaller diameter water feed hoses in order to try to tackle an odor issue.? The hardest part was getting my hand into position to remove and install the new waste pump out hose end at the bottom of the tank.??
> Another comment ..... several people have recommended butyl tape.? Be careful and consider if the fitting install screws may rip the tape as you screw them in?? If there is any concern, then 4200 sealant may be better since you can also "butter" the screw threads with 4200 to make sure you get a good seal (and wipe away the excess on top).
> Dave Hupe
> 1994 C320 #32 ("Mayan Sun")
> Holland, MI
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2021 08:49:24 -0400
> From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> Message-ID: <733a98cf-f157-4b1c-9582-3474f1fc94dc at www.fastmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Yes that is correct. I redid my forward water fill fitting last year the same way. However I will caution you that the screws are only self-tapping screws, so you'll want to be careful about overtightening them, which could strip the holes and cause you other issues.
>
> Additionally, you'll probably need to tighten them a few times over the next couple months, because the Butyl never really hardens. And you'll occasionally need to clean up the butyl that oozes out around the fitting until everything seats properly.
>
> --
> Doug Treff
> doug at treff.us
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2021, at 8:07 PM, SARA SCHROEDER wrote:
> > Thanks all. Butyl tape it is. Am I correct that I should unscrew the
> > fitting and put the tap under the entire thing? I saw that the hose is
> > "Ok" but I can foresee it needing to be replaced at some point and on
> > quick glance that does not look like a fun job.
> > Sara
> > Wandering Star
> > 2000/#707
> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > > 1. Waste deck fitting leak (Sara Schroeder Skinner)
> > > 2. Re: Waste deck fitting leak (Darren Hulbert)
> > > 3. Re: Waste deck fitting leak (John Morrison)
> > > 4. Re: Waste deck fitting leak (Doug Treff)
> > > 5. Re: Waste deck fitting leak (Jeff Smith)
> > > 6. Re: Waste deck fitting leak (Joe Geiger)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 18:13:49 -0700
> > > From: Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net>
> > > To: C320 Blog <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > > Subject: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > > Message-ID: <4B9BDB03-15EA-4BD8-93E9-94767A6A6287 at comcast.net>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > >
> > > Sara
> > > Wandering Star
> > > 2000/#707
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 19:27:37 -0600
> > > From: Darren Hulbert <dhulbert at me.com>
> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > > Message-ID: <A01035DF-BBE3-43D7-AAE4-BC2D829A2A63 at me.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > >
> > > Butyl tape
> > >
> > > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > > >
> > > > Sara
> > > > Wandering Star
> > > > 2000/#707
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 22:18:21 -0400
> > > From: John Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > > Message-ID: <EC3F5D6F-319C-4993-ACD4-AD4347F4E9B6 at sympatico.ca>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > Yup butyl tape works as well as 3m4200.
> > > JohnM
> > > 1999#574
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Darren Hulbert <dhulbert at me.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > > >
> > > > Butyl tape
> > > >
> > > >> On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ?Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sara
> > > >> Wandering Star
> > > >> 2000/#707
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2021 08:02:10 -0400
> > > From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
> > > To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > > Message-ID: <9db49a4c-f323-4dbc-a58e-ee5a13a13957 at www.fastmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > This stuff:
> > >
> > > https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > >
> > > And the best part... This roll will last you years because it doesn't dry out and harden like a tube of sealant would.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Doug Treff
> > > doug at treff.us
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner wrote:
> > > > Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the
> > > > aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the
> > > > track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around
> > > > the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant
> > > > underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it
> > > > once I take the fitting off.
> > > >
> > > > Sara
> > > > Wandering Star
> > > > 2000/#707
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 08:07:26 -0400
> > > From: Jeff Smith <svsailmates512 at gmail.com>
> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > > Message-ID:
> > > <CABpVgjhLZspAVo62VciJaF6krmvBhmcrYqB9J3Wn-uf6bi_hKA at mail.gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > I used 4200 to do my diesel and fresh water fills on the stern. As Doug
> > > said, though, I am getting tired of buying a $20 tube and using $2 of it
> > > only to have the rest harden.
> > >
> > > Having said that, the leak in your head may also be from the Traveller. If
> > > you need to re-bed it, as well, it may be cost effective to use 4200. I had
> > > water in my head but it was coming from the traveller bolts.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 8:02 AM Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
> > >
> > > > This stuff:
> > > >
> > > > https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > > >
> > > > And the best part... This roll will last you years because it doesn't dry
> > > > out and harden like a tube of sealant would.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Doug Treff
> > > > doug at treff.us
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021, at 9:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner wrote:
> > > > > Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the
> > > > > aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the
> > > > > track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around
> > > > > the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant
> > > > > underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it
> > > > > once I take the fitting off.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sara
> > > > > Wandering Star
> > > > > 2000/#707
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 08:46:21 -0400
> > > From: Joe Geiger <joe.geiger at gmail.com>
> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Waste deck fitting leak
> > > Message-ID: <F87DC5CA-46A2-400C-BCAA-FDD9C35B59A7 at gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > I second Darren?s recommendation. It?s way easier and less messy than bedding compound or silicone sealant.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > --
> > > Joe Geiger
> > > Vega #722
> > > Greenwich Cove, RI
> > >
> > > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:27 PM, Darren Hulbert <dhulbert at me.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ?https://shop.marinehowto.com/products/bed-it-tape
> > > >
> > > > Butyl tape
> > > >
> > > >> On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Sara Schroeder Skinner <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> ?Twice now I?ve noticed a small leak in the head. The water pools on the aft side of the top shelf area just under where the bolts are for the track. I ripped apart the head today and tested pooling water around the waste fitting on the deck. Sure enough it appears that the sealant underneath the waste fitting has failed. What should I use to seal it once I take the fitting off.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sara
> > > >> Wandering Star
> > > >> 2000/#707
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >
> > > End of C320-list Digest, Vol 4069, Issue 1
> > > ******************************************
> >
>
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> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 15:48:06 +0000
> From: Ade Bateman <ade.bateman at outlook.com>
> To: Catalina C320 List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Long anchor roller bolts
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> I'm looking for advice on whether I need to add a fifth bolt for the longer anchor roller. Details below.
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> Yesterday I replaced my short, original anchor roller with the longer version from Catalina Direct. I tried putting a Rocna 15 on the short roller but, just like others on the list before me, I couldn't make this work (I know some people have but I couldn't find a way to secure it and not strike the hull).
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> It was tricky to reach the bolts in front of the anchor locker, but I managed it and eventually removed the old roller. The backing plate for the original roller was securely attached underneath including being partly embedded in some sealant that appeared to be part of the deck/hull joint and I didn't want to remove it. Fortunately, the new roller had the holes in the same place, so it was a drop-in replacement. I reused the backing plate and the original bolts with a liberal amount of 5200.
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> Now to the question: how many bolts do the OEM longer rollers use? My shorter roller had four in an offset staggered pattern every 3", two on each side 6" apart. The new roller also includes a fifth hole, in line with the fourth. You can see this on the product page [1].
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> Having pondered this a little, I'm now wondering whether I need to add this fifth bolt? Any thoughts? On the one hand, it was securely fastened previously with four (and even with the bolts removed it was hard to remove the original 5200). On the other, there is more of a lifting moment now that the roller extends much further forward. I'm not sure if adding another bolt will make a significant difference. If I need to add another bolt, I will have to drill down through the deck and original backing plate.
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> Thanks for your thoughts,
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> Ade.
> Sound Thinking, #257 1995.
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> [1] Long Anchor Roller https://www.catalinadirect.com/shop-by-boat/catalina-36/hull-deck/forward/anchor-roller-long-c-28-c-30-c-310-c-320-c-34-c-36/
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