[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3918, Issue 1
Scott Westwood
scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
Sun Jan 10 06:33:20 PST 2021
FWIW About "transmitting" AIS. Some points to consider (Not for or against, but to consider IMHO):Point 1 is that is is nice for friends/family having the ability to track you when you go on long cruises. This does require an AIS land station to update websites like Marinetraffic.com. Off shore that tracking is lost without satellite updates. Point 2 is the ability to turn off transmit when pirating may be an issue. When we did the Bahamas last year we turned off the transmit occasionally so the locals would not know we were coming into an area. Just in case. It is pretty remote out there and places like Nassau (not remote) are known for theft if you go to the wrong places. NOTE: Most of the places we very safe. Mainly around the big cities were known (according to some locals) to have issues.
Thanks,
Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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Today's Topics:
1. Head Faucet clean-up (Scott Westwood)
2. Re: Head Faucet clean-up (Troy Dunn)
3. AIS (Jeff Smith)
4. Re: AIS (Doug Treff)
5. Re: AIS (Graeme Clark)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:38:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
To: 320 <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Head Faucet clean-up
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FWIW.I got tired of looking at the head faucet.? It looked all pitted and rusty.? I took a chance and soaked it in some sort of "Lime-a-Way" I bought at a dollar store. Soaked it almost 24 hours after taking it completely apart and removing all the rubber parts. If interested, you can see the results yourself in my owner's album section of the website (Scott Westwood's Album).? Came out much better than expected.? Lesson learned though.? Before I soaked it I tried to scrape the build-up from the plastic ring at the end of the handle (Part just before the water exits the handle)? I should have just soaked it first.? I ended up taking some of the chrome off the plastic.? Still needs to be polished and waxed but came out OK.? Cheaper for better cosmetics?than replacing the faucet.? Pricey.
Next I will tackle the Galley faucet.
Thanks,
Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:58:27 -0500
From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head Faucet clean-up
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Surprisingly good Scott. Since you saved all that money (boat math) on
the head faucet, you should take those savings and ditch that galley
faucet, get a faucet that combines hot and cold water and incorporated a
spray head, you will use much less water. It?s a huge improvement for so
little effort.
Cheers
Troy
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 13:40:36 -0500
From: Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com>
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Subject: [C320-list] AIS
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I am considering adding AIS to Sailmates. I would like it to both send and receive versus just receive. I have read the previous exchanges about AIS but here is my question for anyone who has either installed AIS, is contemplating it, or just knows about it. I currently have an old Standard Horizon VHF radio at the nav station (with second mic at the pedestal) and a Garmin 74DV chart plotter at the helm. There seems to be two directions to go: 1. Add an AIS transceiver and use a splitter to utilize the existing VHF antenna, or 2. Swap my VHF for a VHF/AIS unit. My NMEA backbone is still 0183. I contemplated upgrading to NMEA 2000 at the same time but I don?t know that I will get any benefits.
My thoughts are that I am better off purchasing a Garmin VHF/AIS transceiver combined and just replacing my VHF. Costwise it will be about the same, as I won?t need a splitter but I will need to install a second mic at the pedestal. The unit should handle sharing the same antenna at least as well and probably better than a different AIS unit + splitter. The AIS is to help handle the busy Chesapeake Bay (we operate in the Hampton Roads shipping channel) and to increase my wife?s confidence for night sailing.
Am I missing something that makes this a bad idea? Also, if you think it is worth upgrading to NMEA 2000, feel free to chime in on that, as well. For further information, everything I currently have is NMEA 0183. This is why I originally decided not to convert because I am not sure there is any advantage, though I could be talked into converting if there is something I am missing.
Thanks in advance for any advice,
Jeff
?94, #121, Sailmates
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 14:18:34 -0500
From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] AIS
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Jeff,
When I went through my electronics upgrade, I chose the B&G V50 radio with a wireless H50 handset for cockpit radio access. This is a receive-only setup and I often wish I'd gone with the more expensive send-receive functionality.
Since then, B&G has introduced a new product, the V-60B VHF radio with Class B AIS built-in and it still has the capability to add a remote wireless handset. HOWEVER, it's quite expensive at $1100 MSRP and the remote wireless handset is extra. I didn't research the cost of the Garmin, so I can't comment but I wanted to mention B&G. I have a Garmin chart plotter and the integration across the NMEA-2000 backbone works great between the two different brands.
The other thing to consider about the wireless handset is that with the C320 open transom, there is a chance that the handset could be lost overboard easily unless you tether it to your helm station somehow. It also needs to be recharged, and they provide a 12V cradle that can be added to your boat and wired in for charging.
If I were doing it today, I'd consider the V-60-B or the Garmin if the cost were reasonably close to the cost of a separate AIS and splitter. The idea of not needing a splitter because it's all in the radio is a big plus for me since that's one less component to fail, and fewer connections in the radio antenna wire which could degrade your signal.
However, in order to get the AIS data to your chart plotter, I'd imagine you'll need to upgrade the NMEA network to NMEA-2000. The real benefit to getting AIS into the chart plotter is to have the AIS vessels show up on your map. That's a powerful feature and worth the upgrade of your network.
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Doug Treff
doug at treff.us
On Fri, Jan 8, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Jeff Smith wrote:
> I am considering adding AIS to Sailmates. I would like it to both send
> and receive versus just receive. I have read the previous exchanges
> about AIS but here is my question for anyone who has either installed
> AIS, is contemplating it, or just knows about it. I currently have an
> old Standard Horizon VHF radio at the nav station (with second mic at
> the pedestal) and a Garmin 74DV chart plotter at the helm. There seems
> to be two directions to go: 1. Add an AIS transceiver and use a
> splitter to utilize the existing VHF antenna, or 2. Swap my VHF for a
> VHF/AIS unit. My NMEA backbone is still 0183. I contemplated upgrading
> to NMEA 2000 at the same time but I don?t know that I will get any
> benefits.
>
> My thoughts are that I am better off purchasing a Garmin VHF/AIS
> transceiver combined and just replacing my VHF. Costwise it will be
> about the same, as I won?t need a splitter but I will need to install a
> second mic at the pedestal. The unit should handle sharing the same
> antenna at least as well and probably better than a different AIS unit
> + splitter. The AIS is to help handle the busy Chesapeake Bay (we
> operate in the Hampton Roads shipping channel) and to increase my
> wife?s confidence for night sailing.
>
> Am I missing something that makes this a bad idea? Also, if you think
> it is worth upgrading to NMEA 2000, feel free to chime in on that, as
> well. For further information, everything I currently have is NMEA
> 0183. This is why I originally decided not to convert because I am not
> sure there is any advantage, though I could be talked into converting
> if there is something I am missing.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>
> Jeff
> ?94, #121, Sailmates
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 19:19:29 +0000
From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] AIS
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This might be worth a read
https://www.oceantimemarine.com/class-a-and-class-b-automatic-identification-system-ais/
Which is basically why I have receive only. I have little faith that big ships see Class B signals
If I know where they are and where they?re going I?m not too bothered if they know where I am! I can always hail them in the vhf
So I have a standard horizon unit with inbuilt AIS receiver which displays on my plotter. Uses the same single vhf aerial
Graeme
Sent from my phone. Excuse typos!
> On 8 Jan 2021, at 18:40, Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com> wrote:
>
> ?I am considering adding AIS to Sailmates. I would like it to both send and receive versus just receive. I have read the previous exchanges about AIS but here is my question for anyone who has either installed AIS, is contemplating it, or just knows about it. I currently have an old Standard Horizon VHF radio at the nav station (with second mic at the pedestal) and a Garmin 74DV chart plotter at the helm. There seems to be two directions to go: 1. Add an AIS transceiver and use a splitter to utilize the existing VHF antenna, or 2. Swap my VHF for a VHF/AIS unit. My NMEA backbone is still 0183. I contemplated upgrading to NMEA 2000 at the same time but I don?t know that I will get any benefits.
>
> My thoughts are that I am better off purchasing a Garmin VHF/AIS transceiver combined and just replacing my VHF. Costwise it will be about the same, as I won?t need a splitter but I will need to install a second mic at the pedestal. The unit should handle sharing the same antenna at least as well and probably better than a different AIS unit + splitter. The AIS is to help handle the busy Chesapeake Bay (we operate in the Hampton Roads shipping channel) and to increase my wife?s confidence for night sailing.
>
> Am I missing something that makes this a bad idea? Also, if you think it is worth upgrading to NMEA 2000, feel free to chime in on that, as well. For further information, everything I currently have is NMEA 0183. This is why I originally decided not to convert because I am not sure there is any advantage, though I could be talked into converting if there is something I am missing.
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice,
>
> Jeff
> ?94, #121, Sailmates
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