[C320-list] Port Window Advice Requested

Karl Krueger smoothsail282 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 15 14:50:54 PDT 2021


Hello All:

It's time for me to replace 4 (in the salon area) opening port light
hatches.  It looks as if Catalina Direct has the best price.

Has anyone ordered these items from Catalina Direct?  Also, any advice for
installation?

Regards,

Karl Krueger
Kindred Spirit #282
Milwaukee WI

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 9:31 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> I’m in the process of replacing all the propane hoses on my 23 year old
> boat. From the propane locker I’ve taken the complete assembly, 2 short
> hoses plus the gauge, solenoid valve and regulator, to a local propane
> dealer to have it all replaced except for the gauge. I will replace the
> long run hose inside the vessel. I can buy the hose and fittings from our
> local chandlery. I’ve also read that these hoses should be replaced every 5
> years, but I’m thinking 10 is probably safe. Perhaps there is a gas
> engineer out there who can confirm this?
> JohnM
> 1999#574
>
> On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:27 AM, kendgb <kendgb at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Dennis.  Thanks for your info.  Can you tell the outside diameter
> of the copper tube used and where the copper was run to to attach to a
> rubber hose.  In other words where are the copper to rubber joints
> located.ThanksKen GeigerNorthern Dream #765 2000Sent from my Samsung Galaxy
> smartphone.
> > -------- Original message --------From: Dennis Cookson <
> dennis at cooksons.net> Date: 2021-03-15  08:10  (GMT-05:00) To:
> C320-List at catalina320.com Subject: [C320 There’s not a lot of information
> about this topic in the C320 discussion history, so I’m posting this as an
> advisory which might be helpful to other owners.We finally got around to
> replacing the rubber hose that runs from the propane gas locker on the aft
> port side to the gas stove in the galley, as an essential upgrade strongly
> recommended by our surveyor a while back. Although the existing hose still
> works fine and appears to be in good shape, it is well past its recommended
> lifetime for propane use of just 5 years.  This is because propane attacks
> the rubber from the inside, and it is impossible to see the internal stress
> and damage that may have occurred. Should you be unlucky enough to have a
> leak while the hose is pressurised, the escaping gas will sink to the
> bilges of the boat, being heavier than air, where it will stay until
> ventilated, creating a potentially disastrous hazard.It is usually a
> condition of insurance policies that gas installations are maintained to
> meet local regulations, and here in the UK, certified by ‘Gas Safe’
> registered engineers.  The regulations state that the replacement must
> deploy copper pipe (typically 10mm thick wall) from the isolation valve in
> the gas locker all the way to a termination point with shut-off valve at
> the stove, with just a metre of flexible hose at each end for the
> connections.  The hose behind the stove should be braided for additional
> protection. So we can’t simply replace like for like.Although in theory you
> could perform the work yourself to the appropriate standards, it would
> still need to be checked, tested, and certified by a registered engineer to
> meet the insurance requirements. So this is an expensive job, and one that
> owners naturally prefer not to think about. But if your current
> installation is well over five years old, which many will be, it’s
> something you can’t really afford to ignore.The good news is that Catalina
> Yachts did make provision (at least from 1999, the year of our boat) for
> replacement of the hose run from underneath the gas locker to the cupboard
> under the galley sinks. There is a glassed in plastic conduit tube through
> which it is possible to pull through a new pipe, whether copper or rubber,
> using the old rubber one. It requires having one person in the port
> lazarette and another in the galley for this part of the job, which only
> takes a few minutes. The rest of the installation can be done by one
> person.  To avoid the expense of paying for a second contractor, I offered
> my services to act as the engineer's assistant for this task, then left him
> to complete the work alone.Dennis CooksonCatalina #577
>
>

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