[C320-list] C320 genoa car track

[John Stetson]

Yes, totally inside the lifelines. It sounds like you need to question the
cut. Unless we are off the wind the sail is inside the lifelines.

On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 7:44 PM Bill & Kay- Diversion via C320-list <
c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

> Thank you guys!
> This is a used racing genoa I picked up last year and had re-cut over the
> winter, using a reputable sail maker in Annapolis. Maybe not the best
> investment? Prior to last night's experiment we couldn't get the proper
> shape regardless of car position....with the sheet led aft last night and
> someone pushing it down to ~18" off the deck, the sail shape was better and
> we were able to point higher with better boat speed. Sheeting angle to the
> aft turning block is definitely too extreme, and this was simply a trial
> run. Thinking of rigging a low friction ring "tweaker/barber hauler" to the
> garhauer car?
> When close hauled/properly trimmed, is your 155 completely inside the
> lifelines?
> BillDiversion #714
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Stetson via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Cc: John Stetson <jbstetson721 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 8, 2023 5:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 genoa car track
>
> I would have to agree with the comments by Surprise.  Our 155 is in its 4th
> year and the Garhauer genoa car system is in its 3rd, both long enough to
> work out the best position, etc.  We find that we routinely have the car
> just forward of the 5th or 6th hole when close hauled, depending on the
> wind speed.  If it is any further aft we end up with excessive twist and a
> loss of power as well as general performance.  We sheet to 2 to 4" off the
> tip of the upper spreader depending on wind speed, move the car forward
> when off the wind, and have never used the aft turning block as it results
> in too much friction when tacking.  We race J&M weekly and on many
> weekends, and are very pleased with the power and pointing with the genoa
> and car system.  .
>
> John Stetson
> Morning Star...Again
> Hull #578
> Shelburne, VT
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2023 at 2:27 PM surprise thompson87.com via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> > Is it possible your 155 is old and blown out?  Is it the stock sail?
> > Those tended to not hold their shape for more than a few years. The
> turning
> > block aft of the winches is awfully far back and you should not be
> getting
> > decent sail shape in that position. (And how do you even use that in
> > anything other than super light air since it can’t have a fair lead?) I
> > Sail with a 145 and find the optimal position upwind in any decent air is
> > about even with the back of the side windows. That’s around 5 holes
> > counting from the back of the track. I haven’t owned the stock 155 for
> > years, but when I did I got decent sail shape in the aft hole position
> even
> > though the sail was blown out after just a few years of use. Buying a new
> > high quality Genoa was like getting a new boat in terms of reduced
> weather
> > helm, better pointing, and boat speed.
> >
> > Another thought: If the sail is decent is it possible your mast is raked
> > too far forward? That would move the optimal lead angle aft.
> >
> > > On Jun 8, 2023, at 6:26 AM, Bill & Kay- Diversion via C320-list <
> > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Shipmates-
> > > Upgraded to the Garhauer genoa car system last year...works great for
> > our 130% sail, but find that even with the car moved all the way aft, the
> > sheeting angle and sail shape for the 155% genoa is not optimal.
> > > While racing last night we tried running the sheet directly to the foot
> > block aft of the winch as a temporary measure, and found the sail
> > shape/boat speed to be vastly improved.
> > > Has anyone extended the track further aft or found a different way to
> > rig the sheets for a larger genoa?
> > > Thank you in advance- always learning!
> > > Bill McConnellC320 #714 Diversion
> >
>
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John Stetson
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