[C320-list] Raising navigation lights
Scott Westwood
scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
Sun Nov 12 02:44:09 PST 2023
You might try what we did. we added davits too but at the same time we added solar panels so that created a crossbar above/between the ends of the davits. our cross bar was higher than the ends of the davits but You could simply add a single crossbar to stabilize yours. Or if your davits already have a crossbar. Simply extend the existing Stern light up to that crossbar. that's essentially what we did. We re-ran/extended the wire along with solar panel wires inside mesh UV protection (you can buy in roles) but outside SS frame tubing.
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1. Raising navigation lights (Jack Brennan)
2. Re: Raising navigation lights (ptormey 4square.net)
3. Re: Raising navigation lights (Troy Dunn)
4. Re: Raising navigation lights (Jack Brennan)
5. Re: Raising navigation lights (mseyler at cox.net)
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 02:46:32 +0000
From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan333 at outlook.com>
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So I carry my dinghy on trips with Weaver davits, and the dinghy partly blocks the stern light. Also, I think the bow light would be more visible if it was raised another foot.
So I?m wondering: Has anyone devised a method for raising the navigation lights?
My first idea is to use Starboard or a similar material and bolt it to the original mounting on the rails, then attach the navigation lights to the top of a Starboard slat about a foot high. But I?m wondering whether someone has devised a more elegant solution.
On a related issue, I would love to replace the untinned wire that now runs through the bow and stern rails for the navigation lights. But I?ll be damned if I can get the wire to budge. Any tips?
Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 12:45:42 +0000
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After installing davits, I discovered that the stern light was blocked too. Unfortunately, I was on a trip at the time so I bought a headlamp style light and zip tied it on the radar post!
Later. I cut the wires to the light in the starboard lazarette and patched them into a new stern light mounted on the radar post. Since I already had wires thru to the radar and the post has an external wire run it was easy to pop the wires out the top under the dome to mount the light.
Pat
Pat Tormey
s/v Blues Skies
Newport RI
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So I carry my dinghy on trips with Weaver davits, and the dinghy partly blocks the stern light. Also, I think the bow light would be more visible if it was raised another foot.
So I'm wondering: Has anyone devised a method for raising the navigation lights?
My first idea is to use Starboard or a similar material and bolt it to the original mounting on the rails, then attach the navigation lights to the top of a Starboard slat about a foot high. But I'm wondering whether someone has devised a more elegant solution.
On a related issue, I would love to replace the untinned wire that now runs through the bow and stern rails for the navigation lights. But I'll be damned if I can get the wire to budge. Any tips?
Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 08:09:13 -0500
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Jack-
I think they make a dual purpose masthead tri-color/anchor light (Hella?).
That would certainly solve your visibility concerns at a distance. I've
seen some boats with a stern light mounted near the spreader split, I'm
guessing the wire is exposed in that case. The masthead light may be the
cheapest and most aesthetically pleasing if it suits your needs. I think I
read somewhere that cycling the power changes the function of the masthead
light from anchor to nav so you wouldn't have to rewire?? You'll need to
research it, i can't remember where i saw that article...
Regards-
Troy
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> After installing davits, I discovered that the stern light was blocked
> too. Unfortunately, I was on a trip at the time so I bought a headlamp
> style light and zip tied it on the radar post!
>
> Later. I cut the wires to the light in the starboard lazarette and patched
> them into a new stern light mounted on the radar post. Since I already had
> wires thru to the radar and the post has an external wire run it was easy
> to pop the wires out the top under the dome to mount the light.
>
> Pat
> Pat Tormey
> s/v Blues Skies
> Newport RI
>
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> So I carry my dinghy on trips with Weaver davits, and the dinghy partly
> blocks the stern light. Also, I think the bow light would be more visible
> if it was raised another foot.
>
> So I'm wondering: Has anyone devised a method for raising the navigation
> lights?
>
> My first idea is to use Starboard or a similar material and bolt it to the
> original mounting on the rails, then attach the navigation lights to the
> top of a Starboard slat about a foot high. But I'm wondering whether
> someone has devised a more elegant solution.
>
> On a related issue, I would love to replace the untinned wire that now
> runs through the bow and stern rails for the navigation lights. But I'll be
> damned if I can get the wire to budge. Any tips?
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
>
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>
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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 15:22:43 +0000
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Troy, Pat and Hans:
A masthead light is an interesting choice.
I get a little concerned because my wife and I are now too old to go up the mast if the light burns out or the bulb gets dislodged. Finding someone to do it on a trip can be a challenge.
I also wonder how visible those lights are 47 feet above the water, especially when traveling on a river or channel. I once barely escaped an accident with a drunken powerboater roaring through an anchorage who didn?t see a masthead anchor light. Now I leave a solar light in the cockpit for good measure.
I don?t think exposed electrical cable is ideal, but I already have wires from the solar panels going down one of the backstays and through the Dorade vent on the stern. I think I would rather have that than try to route wires through the bow and stern rails.
I?m off to Home Depot and West Marine later today to look at materials and do some thinking.
Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
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Jack-
I think they make a dual purpose masthead tri-color/anchor light (Hella?).
That would certainly solve your visibility concerns at a distance. I've
seen some boats with a stern light mounted near the spreader split, I'm
guessing the wire is exposed in that case. The masthead light may be the
cheapest and most aesthetically pleasing if it suits your needs. I think I
read somewhere that cycling the power changes the function of the masthead
light from anchor to nav so you wouldn't have to rewire?? You'll need to
research it, i can't remember where i saw that article...
Regards-
Troy
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I added a combination anchor/tri-color light to my masthead when I had my
mast down last year, and it would certainly solve the problem of a dinghy
blocking the stern light when under sail. But the masthead light doesn't
comply with the CG rules for use under power. If you are under power you
still need to use the deck-level lights and the steaming light on the mast.
I changed out the switch for the nav lights to a 3 position rocker switch,
that can turn on either the tri-color light under sail or the deck-level
lights under power.
Also, you would almost certainly have to run a new cable to the masthead for
the tri-color light. The one I bought needed three conductors for the
anchor light, tri-color light, and ground. There are models that use a
two-conductor cable and reverse polarity to switch between the anchor light
and the tri-color light. But you wouldn't be able to use the existing wires
for the anchor light because the stock wiring set-up on 320s uses a common
ground for the anchor light, steaming light, and deck light, and the
polarity of the wires to the anchor light cannot be reversed.
Mark Seyler
S/V Reality,
Catalina 320, #232
New Orleans, LA
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Troy, Pat and Hans:
A masthead light is an interesting choice.
I get a little concerned because my wife and I are now too old to go up the
mast if the light burns out or the bulb gets dislodged. Finding someone to
do it on a trip can be a challenge.
I also wonder how visible those lights are 47 feet above the water,
especially when traveling on a river or channel. I once barely escaped an
accident with a drunken powerboater roaring through an anchorage who didn't
see a masthead anchor light. Now I leave a solar light in the cockpit for
good measure.
I don't think exposed electrical cable is ideal, but I already have wires
from the solar panels going down one of the backstays and through the Dorade
vent on the stern. I think I would rather have that than try to route wires
through the bow and stern rails.
I'm off to Home Depot and West Marine later today to look at materials and
do some thinking.
Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.
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From: Troy Dunn via C320-list<mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
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Cc: Troy Dunn<mailto:troutwarrior at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Raising navigation lights
Jack-
I think they make a dual purpose masthead tri-color/anchor light (Hella?).
That would certainly solve your visibility concerns at a distance. I've
seen some boats with a stern light mounted near the spreader split, I'm
guessing the wire is exposed in that case. The masthead light may be the
cheapest and most aesthetically pleasing if it suits your needs. I think I
read somewhere that cycling the power changes the function of the masthead
light from anchor to nav so you wouldn't have to rewire?? You'll need to
research it, i can't remember where i saw that article...
Regards-
Troy
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