[C320-list] Gypsy

Mon Sep 2 17:17:55 PDT 2024

I welded the gypsy onto mine, have  150’ of chain and 150’ of rope.
John  Beck
SV Sail On
# 518

Jb

On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 8:08 PM Joe Grande via C320-list <
c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

> Thanks guys! Nineteen years ago I had an anchor dragging event. I then
> discovered that my C320 came to me with only 15' of 1/4" chain. One friend
> suggested that I go to all chain. Not wanting that weight in the bow, I
> went with 30' of 3/8" chain, which outweighs my Delta anchor. It has served
> me well! And, yes, I loop the chain around the Maxwell winch.
>
> Joe Grande
> Whisper #772, 2000
>
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gypsy
>
> Same here. When the hand-over-hand retrieval is burdensome,  I don't
> hesitate to use the drum for the chain.
>
> Karl
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 4:44 PM Joe Grande via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>>
> wrote:
> Well I guess I am the bad boy! No one ever told me my Maxwell 500 was
> "rope only." Sure the drum is scored from chain, but it's been hoisting my
> chain for 20 summers; as recently as last Thursday in the back bay of Port
> Ludlow.
>
> Joe Grande
> 80 yr old owner of
> Whisper #772, 2000
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gypsy
>
> I’ve also never used a swivel.  I have 30’ of chain.  I asked Maxwell
> technical group about upgrading to chain/rope and here was their response…
>
> “The VC500 is not convertible to include a chainwheel or gypsy.  While you
> can add a solenoid and another footswitch to make it dual directional, with
> the ability to counterwind or slip the rope out on your windlass as it is
> now, you may want to save your money for a good replacement – the VW10
> windlass – available in either a 5/16”or 3/8”version, and it has a
> rope/chain chainwheel to handle your primary rode AND a drum for a second
> rope rode anchor or other rope.
>
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> Please let us know if you need anything else.
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> Regards,
>  David Barrett
> Technical Support/Customer Service”
>
> —Bill Ackerman
> #320 Gulfport FL
>
> > On Sep 2, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Jack Brennan via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've never had a swivel. I just use a shackle. Here's a Practical
> Sailor article discussing them:
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> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> ><
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> >
> >
> > I too have the Maxwell 500 rope-only windlass that came with older 320s.
> I believe that Maxwell used to make a kit that converted it to handle
> chain, but that disappeared many moons ago.
> >
> > As I hit 70 and upgraded to a 35-pound Manson supreme anchor with 30
> feet of 5/16 chain, I too started thinking about upgrading my windlass
> because it's getting more and more difficult to pull up everything.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, there is no choice but to go with a new Maxwell
> vw10 or vw1000 due to the configuration. Defender seems to have the best
> prices, but these now start at $2,100.
> >
> > I have been waiting for the price to fall, but it keeps creeping up.
> >
> > Has anyone ever tried to mount a different, less expensive windlass on
> the 320? I'd be interested in hearing about it.
> >
> > Jack Brennan
> > Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> > Tierra Verde, Fl.
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> > Subject: [C320-list] Gypsy
> >
> > I mistakenly allowed my ex to remove the swivel between the anchor and
> anchor chain. He said, “don’t worry, when the wind changes the anchor won’t
> break free.”  Well that isn’t true. Took the boat out last night in a small
> protected Anchorage with a good holding ground. Got a good bite, but as the
> wind clocked around, I noticed I was dragging. A bunch of other boats had
> come into the small anchorage so I immediately started to pull up the
> anchor and realized that the anchor hooks with line he set up was way more
> convoluted than I wanted to deal with. So now, I’m contemplating adding a
> gypsy. And no, they are not cheap!
> >
> > I have a windlass, but I have to pull the chain up by hand. So my
> question to the group is twofold. First, can you give me recommendations on
> a gypsy that has worked well for you. Secondly, can the gypsy go in the
> anchor locker or will it have to be mounted on the deck? I have space in
> the Anchor locker, but I’m not really too sure if it replaces the winch or
> becomes an addition to the winch. I’m thinking it replaces it.
> >
> > Thinking that this might be a good “boat buck” item to splurge on. The
> strength won’t get better with age.  :<
> >
> > Sara
> > Wandering Star
> > Seattle
> > #707/2000
> > Sara S.
>