[C320-list] Gypsy

[Jack Brennan]

No. Without a gypsy, just the Maxwell 500.



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-------- Original message --------
From: John Beck via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Date: 9/2/24 9:02 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Cc: John Beck <jbeck50 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gypsy

With a Gypsy it just feeds it too the bottom over the top. Also put a
remote on it so it runs both ways.
John Beck
Sail On
#518

Jb


On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 8:57 PM Jack Brennan via C320-list <
c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

> So I'll bite. What technique do you use when the chain comes on to the
> windlass?
>
> I stand on the foredeck with one wrap on the windlass for rope and keep
> tension on it as I feed the line into the locker.
>
> When I tried to do that with chain I made a mess of it.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Greg Flanagan via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Date: 9/2/24 8:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Cc: Greg Flanagan <greg.flanagan at shaw.ca>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gypsy
>
> I have 130’ of 3/8” chain + 180’ of rode on a Rocna 15kg anchor. Perfect!
> I have successfully used the Maxwell 500 Windless that came with the boat
> for 18 years. Unfortunately, I have never figured out how to service it but
> it is still working fine—chain and rope. An added advantage of the chain
> was it lifted the stern just of the water, allowing it to remain clean.
>
> Greg
> Hoop Dancer #1076
> Sidney, BC
>
>
> > On Sep 2, 2024, at 5:18 PM, John Beck via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >
> > I welded the gypsy onto mine, have 150’ of chain and 150’ of rope.
> > John Beck
> > SV Sail On
> > # 518
> >
> > Jb
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 8:08 PM Joe Grande via C320-list <
> > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks guys! Nineteen years ago I had an anchor dragging event. I then
> > > discovered that my C320 came to me with only 15' of 1/4" chain. One
> friend
> > > suggested that I go to all chain. Not wanting that weight in the bow, I
> > > went with 30' of 3/8" chain, which outweighs my Delta anchor. It has
> served
> > > me well! And, yes, I loop the chain around the Maxwell winch.
> > >
> > > Joe Grande
> > > Whisper #772, 2000
> > >
> > >
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> > > From: Karl Mielenhausen <kmielen at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 4:02:25 PM
> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > > Cc: Joe Grande <joe_grande at msn.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gypsy
> > >
> > > Same here. When the hand-over-hand retrieval is burdensome, I don't
> > > hesitate to use the drum for the chain.
> > >
> > > Karl
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 4:44 PM Joe Grande via C320-list <
> > > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >>
> > > wrote:
> > > Well I guess I am the bad boy! No one ever told me my Maxwell 500 was
> > > "rope only." Sure the drum is scored from chain, but it's been
> hoisting my
> > > chain for 20 summers; as recently as last Thursday in the back bay of
> Port
> > > Ludlow.
> > >
> > > Joe Grande
> > > 80 yr old owner of
> > > Whisper #772, 2000
> > >
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> > > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:
> > > c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com>> on behalf of --Bill via
> > > C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:
> > > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>>
> > > Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 1:30:14 PM
> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com> <
> > > C320-List at catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com>>
> > > Cc: --Bill <ackermwi at yahoo.com<mailto:ackermwi at yahoo.com>>
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Gypsy
> > >
> > > I’ve also never used a swivel. I have 30’ of chain. I asked Maxwell
> > > technical group about upgrading to chain/rope and here was their
> response…
> > >
> > > “The VC500 is not convertible to include a chainwheel or gypsy. While
> you
> > > can add a solenoid and another footswitch to make it dual directional,
> with
> > > the ability to counterwind or slip the rope out on your windlass as it
> is
> > > now, you may want to save your money for a good replacement – the VW10
> > > windlass – available in either a 5/16”or 3/8”version, and it has a
> > > rope/chain chainwheel to handle your primary rode AND a drum for a
> second
> > > rope rode anchor or other rope.
> > >
> > >
> > > https://maxwellmarine.com/product/vw-10/
> > > <https://maxwellmarine.com/product/vw-10/><
> > > https://maxwellmarine.com/product/vw-10/>
> > >
> > > Please let us know if you need anything else.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > David Barrett
> > > Technical Support/Customer Service”
> > >
> > > —Bill Ackerman
> > > #320 Gulfport FL
> > >
> > > > On Sep 2, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Jack Brennan via C320-list <
> > > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've never had a swivel. I just use a shackle. Here's a Practical
> > > Sailor article discussing them:
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > <
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > ><
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I too have the Maxwell 500 rope-only windlass that came with older
> 320s.
> > > I believe that Maxwell used to make a kit that converted it to handle
> > > chain, but that disappeared many moons ago.
> > > >
> > > > As I hit 70 and upgraded to a 35-pound Manson supreme anchor with 30
> > > feet of 5/16 chain, I too started thinking about upgrading my windlass
> > > because it's getting more and more difficult to pull up everything.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I can tell, there is no choice but to go with a new Maxwell
> > > vw10 or vw1000 due to the configuration. Defender seems to have the
> best
> > > prices, but these now start at $2,100.
> > > >
> > > > I have been waiting for the price to fall, but it keeps creeping up.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone ever tried to mount a different, less expensive windlass
> on
> > > the 320? I'd be interested in hearing about it.
> > > >
> > > > Jack Brennan
> > > > Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> > > > Tierra Verde, Fl.
> > > > [
> > >
> https://cdn.practical-sailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/p19smohij3nhm1sq29i5h5vdm48.jpg.optimal.jpg
> > > <
> > >
> https://cdn.practical-sailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/p19smohij3nhm1sq29i5h5vdm48.jpg.optimal.jpg
> > > >]<
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > <
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > ><
> > >
> https://cdn.practical-sailor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/p19smohij3nhm1sq29i5h5vdm48.jpg.optimal.jpg
> > > >>
> > > > Anchor Swivels: Caution Required - Practical Sailor<
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > <
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > ><
> > >
> https://www.practical-sailor.com/sails-rigging-deckgear/anchor-swivels-caution-required
> > > >>
> > > > Since 1974, Practical Sailor’s independent testing has taken the
> > > guesswork out of boat and gear buying.
> > > >
> > > http://www.practical-sailor.com/
> > > <http://www.practical-sailor.com/><http://www.practical-sailor.com/>
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:
> > > c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com>> on behalf of Wandering Star
> via
> > > C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:
> > > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>>
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 2:56 PM
> > > > To: C320 Blog <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com<mailto:
> > > c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>>
> > > > Cc: Wandering Star <wanderingstar951 at comcast.net<mailto:
> > > wanderingstar951 at comcast.net>>
> > > > Subject: [C320-list] Gypsy
> > > >
> > > > I mistakenly allowed my ex to remove the swivel between the anchor
> and
> > > anchor chain. He said, “don’t worry, when the wind changes the anchor
> won’t
> > > break free.” Well that isn’t true. Took the boat out last night in a
> small
> > > protected Anchorage with a good holding ground. Got a good bite, but
> as the
> > > wind clocked around, I noticed I was dragging. A bunch of other boats
> had
> > > come into the small anchorage so I immediately started to pull up the
> > > anchor and realized that the anchor hooks with line he set up was way
> more
> > > convoluted than I wanted to deal with. So now, I’m contemplating
> adding a
> > > gypsy. And no, they are not cheap!
> > > >
> > > > I have a windlass, but I have to pull the chain up by hand. So my
> > > question to the group is twofold. First, can you give me
> recommendations on
> > > a gypsy that has worked well for you. Secondly, can the gypsy go in the
> > > anchor locker or will it have to be mounted on the deck? I have space
> in
> > > the Anchor locker, but I’m not really too sure if it replaces the
> winch or
> > > becomes an addition to the winch. I’m thinking it replaces it.
> > > >
> > > > Thinking that this might be a good “boat buck” item to splurge on.
> The
> > > strength won’t get better with age. :<
> > > >
> > > > Sara
> > > > Wandering Star
> > > > Seattle
> > > > #707/2000
> > > > Sara S.
> > >
>