[C320-list] folding props again/shaft replacement
jonvez at comcast.net
jonvez at comcast.net
Tue Apr 4 04:57:54 PDT 2006
Russ and others,
I did start a thread a while back regarding replacing my shaft without removing the rudder. The problem is I had a pro do it and got to the yard just as he was finishing up. I haven't been able to contact him to ask how he did it. It's been three seasons and I have had no problems. The only casualty was a scuff mark on the rudder where it looks like he passed it through. I will try again to contact him for those of you who may still be looking to swap shafts...
Regards,
Jon Vez
Solstice #582
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Russell Monaco <russgm at yahoo.com>
> Rod-
> Do you recall any threads on removal/repalcement of the shaft with the rudder
> in?
> -russ
>
> Rod Boer wrote:
> Hi Orlando,
>
> Maybe, but Jeff Hare and others have indicated that the advice of the
> manufacturers was not correct. When I eventually order the 3 blade Gori, I
> will go with Jeff's recommendation. Thanks.
>
> Rod Boer
> Odyssey, #688
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: "C320-List"
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] folding props again
>
>
> Scott,
>
> Wouldn't be best for you to give all of the info to the prop mfg's and let
> them tell you what would work best on your particular boat? I just went
> thru this exercise with both Flex-O-Fold and Varifold for my new boat, it
> really helps in speaking to the mfg instead of just getting the same thing
> someone else has....
>
> cuba libre 2
>
>
>
> Scott Thompson
> net> To
> Sent by: C320-List
> C320-List-bounce
> s at catalina320.or cc
> g
> Subject
> Re: [C320-list] folding props again
> 04/03/2006 10:10
> AM
>
>
> Please respond
> to
> C320-List
> ina320.org>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> All: If you look way, way down near the bottom of this message you will
> see my original question, namely what size/pitch I should order for the
> Martec or Gori two-blade folders, given I have the Yanmar 3GM30F and
> 2.21:1 reduction. So far, despite all of the replies, no one has
> offered an answer. Can no one provide this info?
>
> Scott Thompson
>
>
> Darrell wrote:
> > I have the 3 blade flexifold and appreciate the extra torque when I need
> it.
> > I also backs the boat up with little to no walk, Darrell
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Walter burnett"
> > To: "C320-List"
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] folding props again
> >
> >
> > The difference in drag under sail between a two and three blade folding
> prop
> > is insignificant (folded is folded). A three blade does give more torque
>
> > (bite) for a given size and it typically will run with a little less
> > vibration because the weight is more evenly distributed around the
> center of
> > rotation. Some resonance vibration at certain RPMs seems to be endemic
> to
> > all folding props, probably because of moving parts. As Dick suggests,
> the
> > three blade folders work better if you do a lot of motoring or encounter
>
> > heavy seas.
> >
> > BTW, I'm very happy with a 3 blade Gori.
> >
> > Walter Burnett
> > Selkie #887
> >
> > "Richard A. Walker" wrote:
> > On the left coast we motor relatively allot. Up to Catalina which is
> about
> > 78 miles from Coronado we are both into the wind and into a .5 to 1 kt
> > current. So motoring is the thing. The Autoprop gets WindWalker II 7.1
> kts
> > at 2600 rpm which is our normal transit mode. In 61/2 years we have
> about
> > 450 hours on the engine.
> >
> > WE do not use it much for our day sailing, into and out of the slip but
> on
> > the long trips it is well used.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dick Walker
> > C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> > 740 Olive Ave.
> > Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> >
> >
> >
> > 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Peter Clancy
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:04 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] folding props again
> >
> > Good question. I have the Gori 2-blade folder. Price is a factor and
> you'd
> > probably have a little more drag under sail with the 3-blade prop (a
> racing
> > issue). I have a 10 year old boat with only 360 hours on the engine. So,
> we
> > sail 80-90% of the time. Folks who motor more often, particularly in
> windy
> > and choppy conditions, could probably make a case for the 3-blade having
> a
> > better "bite" and possibly driving the boat better thru such conditions
> > although I've never had a problem with my 2-blade folder.
> >
> > Peter Clancy
> > AROBAN C320 #222
> > Miami, FL
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: belairlk at aim.com
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] folding props again
> >
> >
> > What is the reason most of this thread prefers the Gori 2-blade instead
> of
> > the Gori 3-blade---other than price.
> >
> > Len
> > Aqua5 #1070
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pat Moriarty
> > To: C320-List
> > Sent: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 11:25:51 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] folding props again
> >
> >
> > So I have the same combo and was thinking about the Gori 2 blade
> > also. How have you liked it so far? RPM vs speed and reverse etc. Did
> > you have the 3 blade fixed before?
> >
> > Pat
> > SEXUALHEELING #130
> >
> > At 11:16 AM 3/30/2006, you wrote:
> >> I hope I'm not violating any usage clause with this little endorsement
> >> but I just acquired and installed a Gori 2 blade from AB Marine in
> >> Newport for my 94' hull #141 with a Perkins. They beat every price I
> >> could find on the net and more importantly were very knowledgable and
> >> helpful during prop selection and sizing. The fella I dealt with was
> >> Geoff Prior [geoff at ab-marine.com]
> >> Mike LaChance
> >> Seychelle, #141
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:
> > C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Scott Thompson
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:50 AM
> >> To: C320-List
> >> Subject: [C320-list] folding props again
> >>
> >> Sorry to beat a dead horse, but I can't seem to find the answers in the
> >> older threads on this. Surprise is 1999 wing keel model, hull 653. She
> >> has the Yanmar 3GM30F, continuous HP rating 24.1HP at 3400 RPM. Her
> >> gearbox has 2.21:1 reduction in forward gear.
> >>
> >> For cost reasons and to get minimal drag I'm only looking at the Gori
> >> and Martec 2 blade folders. What pitch and diameter of these props
> >> would be recommended for my boat? Am I correct that the shaft is 1
> >> inch, standard US taper?
> >>
> >> Who has the best deals on these props? Any reason to prefer Gori to
> >> Martec or vice versa? I've read good things about both.
> >>
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