[C320-list] Dutchman system
Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D.
krbmd77 at charter.net
Thu Aug 10 07:51:12 PDT 2006
If you always have your boom parallel when sailing then your system works fine.
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Kurt R. Budelmann
Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Burti
To: C320-List
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
I can't follow that logic at all.
I sail short-handed (solo for all practical purposes)
so the Dutchman has been a blessing to me. I set up my
Dutchman adjustment with a neutral vang which holds
the boom parallel and also clears the boom over the
bimini. The topping lift and mainsheet are snugged at
that height.
With the topping lift tight and the boom parallel to
the deck, your bimini should be clear. At this
configuration, both dutchman lines should be taut and
parallel to each other and the mast.
When dropping the main, I head into the wind, snug the
topping lift first, mainsheet second and that leaves
the dutchman lines taut...main drops and pretty much
flakes itself.
When the main is raised, I loosen the topping lift so
that it doesn't alter the vang and mainsheet controls
and will minimize chafe.
Other than those occasional times when it comes out of
the cam cleat, I never need to adjust it and I am
still sailing with the original 2001 monofilament.
Prudence dictates replacement this year, ...but
procrastination seems to be taking the lead.
Other than being slack about maintenance, what am I
doing wrong?
cb
--- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net>
wrote:
> The problem with not adjusting the tensioning block
> is that when you tighten the vang you can pull out
> the aft most monofilament causing slack when boom
> vang tension is released. Therefore at other times
> you would always have to adjust boom vang tension to
> keep the aft most Dutchman line tense when lowering
> the mainsail.
> __
> Kurt R. Budelmann
> Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Burti
> To: joe at dolphinmortgage.com ; C320-List
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>
>
> Ditto...It allows the maximum benefit of having
> the
> dutchman by not having to fuss with adjustments.
>
> --- Joe Barrett <joe at dolphinmortgage.com> wrote:
>
> > I had a local canvas maker put two zippers in.
> Much
> > easier as you don't ever
> > have to adjust the block.
> > Joe Barrett
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Chris Holt
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:08 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
> >
> > I do exactly what Kurt suggests. I loosen the
> > tension on the Dutchman
> > lines. This allows sufficient slack to place
> the
> > sail cover on and the
> > Dutchman lines feed out through the bottom of
> the
> > sail cover.
> >
> > Chris
> > Wine Down #447
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D."
> > <krbmd77 at charter.net>
> > To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
> >
> >
> > You should have a block where the topping lift
> > attaches to the clew and you
> > can loosen the tension on the Dutchman lines
> enough
> > that you can still cover
> >
> > the mainsail. The slack allows the Dutchman
> line to
> > snake down alongside
> > the flaked sail and exit the sailcover from its
> open
> > bottom edge. You are
> > still able to tension the topping lift with the
> use
> > of this block.
> >
> > __
> > Kurt R. Budelmann
> > Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ben Waltuck
> > To: C320-List
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
> >
> >
> > I'm planning on setting up my Dutchman system
> > tomorrow.. it came with
> > the boat from the previous owner, and I just
> never
> > got around to
> > installing it.
> >
> > My question is:
> > My current sail cover doesn't have slits for
> the
> > vertical dutchman
> > lines, so I think I'll need to drop the entire
> > system down to put the
> > cover over the boom.. I should be able to mark
> the
> > correct hoisted
> > position on the topping lift with a permanent
> > marker so that I can
> > re-hoist the system each time before I hoist
> the
> > main.. but when I put
> > it all away, I'll have no topping lift to my
> > boom..
> > What do you guys do?
> > Did you have your sail covers cut with slits
> for
> > the dutchman?
> > Do you move the main halyard back for a
> temporary
> > topping lift?
> > Is the rigid vang enough to keep the boom up
> and
> > out of the cockpit when
> > the main is down?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat Moriarty wrote:
> >
> > > Dutchman sells the line at a reasonable
> price
> > and sends the right
> > > amount. You can't always get that line with
> UV
> > inhibitors at your
> > > local fishing store.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > #130
> > >
> > > At 09:01 AM 8/9/2006, you wrote:
> > >
> > >> Can someone tell me how many feet of line
> you
> > need to replace the
> > >> dutchmen monofilament that runs through the
> > mainsail
> > >> ? Darrell
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat
> > Moriarty"
> > >> <patm at psiurethanes.com>
> > >> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> > >> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:03 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Call Dutchman and order the line and all
> you
> > need is a philips
> > >>> screwdriver. Hint if you just lower the
> toping
> > lift and don't move
> > >>> the blocks it is simple but if you are not
> > paying attention and move
> > >>> the adjustment and one of the blocks you
> will
> > have to do it several
> > >>> times to get it right.
> > >>>
> > >>> Pat
> > >>>
> > >>> #130
> > >>> At 11:59 AM 8/7/2006, you wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Has anyone had to replace the filaments
> on
> > their Dutchman system?
> > >>>> If so,
> > >>>> how difficult is it? Mine broke after
> the
> > second time I sailed the
> > >>>> boat
> > >>>> (operator error more than anything) and I
> > have been flaking my main
> > >>>> ever
> > >>>> since which is a royal pain in the @#$%!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any comments would be appreciated
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Tim Connolly
> > >>>> Ty Ar Mor #798
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
>
=== message truncated ===
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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