[C320-list] Dutchman system

[Chris Burti]

I don't use the Dutchman when sailing, only after. I
release the topping lift, when sailing, this doesn't
affect the adjustment of the Dutchman.

--- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net>
wrote:

> If you always have your boom parallel when sailing
> then your system works fine.
> __
> Kurt R. Budelmann
> Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Chris Burti 
>   To: C320-List 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:43 AM
>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
> 
> 
>   I can't follow that logic at all.
> 
>   I sail short-handed (solo for all practical
> purposes)
>   so the Dutchman has been a blessing to me. I set
> up my
>   Dutchman adjustment with a neutral vang which
> holds
>   the boom parallel and also clears the boom over
> the
>   bimini. The topping lift and mainsheet are snugged
> at
>   that height.
>    
>   With the topping lift tight and the boom parallel
> to
>   the deck, your bimini should be clear. At this
>   configuration, both dutchman lines should be taut
> and
>   parallel to each other and the mast.
> 
>   When dropping the main, I head into the wind, snug
> the
>   topping lift first, mainsheet second and that
> leaves
>   the dutchman lines taut...main drops and pretty
> much
>   flakes itself.
> 
>   When the main is raised, I loosen the topping lift
> so
>   that it doesn't alter the vang and mainsheet
> controls
>   and will minimize chafe.
> 
>   Other than those occasional times when it comes
> out of
>   the cam cleat, I never need to adjust it and I am
>   still sailing with the original 2001 monofilament.
> 
> 
>   Prudence dictates replacement this year, ...but
>   procrastination seems to be taking the lead. 
> 
>   Other than being slack about maintenance, what am
> I
>   doing wrong?
> 
>   cb
> 
>   --- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D."
> <krbmd77 at charter.net>
>   wrote:
> 
>   > The problem with not adjusting the tensioning
> block
>   > is that when you tighten the vang you can pull
> out
>   > the aft most monofilament causing slack when
> boom
>   > vang tension is released.  Therefore at other
> times 
>   > you would always have to adjust boom vang
> tension to
>   > keep the aft most Dutchman line tense when
> lowering
>   > the mainsail.
>   > __
>   > Kurt R. Budelmann
>   > Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Chris Burti 
>   >   To: joe at dolphinmortgage.com ; C320-List 
>   >   Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 7:19 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Ditto...It allows the maximum benefit of
> having
>   > the
>   >   dutchman by not having to fuss with
> adjustments.
>   > 
>   >   --- Joe Barrett <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
> wrote:
>   > 
>   >   > I had a local canvas maker put two zippers
> in.
>   > Much
>   >   > easier as you don't ever
>   >   > have to adjust the block.
>   >   > Joe Barrett
>   >   >  
>   >   > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com
>   >   > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com]
> On
>   > Behalf
>   >   > Of Chris Holt
>   >   > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:08 PM
>   >   > To: C320-List
>   >   > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>   >   >  
>   >   > I do exactly what Kurt suggests.   I loosen
> the
>   >   > tension on the Dutchman 
>   >   > lines.  This allows sufficient slack to
> place
>   > the
>   >   > sail cover on and the 
>   >   > Dutchman lines feed out through the bottom
> of
>   > the
>   >   > sail cover.
>   >   >  
>   >   > Chris
>   >   > Wine Down #447
>   >   >  
>   >   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   > From: "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D."
>   >   > <krbmd77 at charter.net>
>   >   > To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
>   >   > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:22 PM
>   >   > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>   >   >  
>   >   >  
>   >   > You should have a block where the topping
> lift
>   >   > attaches to the clew and you 
>   >   > can loosen the tension on the Dutchman lines
>   > enough
>   >   > that you can still cover
>   >   > 
>   >   > the mainsail.  The slack allows the Dutchman
>   > line to
>   >   > snake down alongside 
>   >   > the flaked sail and exit the sailcover from
> its
>   > open
>   >   > bottom edge.  You are 
>   >   > still able to tension the topping lift with
> the
>   > use
>   >   > of this block.
>   >   >  
>   >   > __
>   >   > Kurt R. Budelmann
>   >   > Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
>   >   >  
>   >   >  
>   >   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   >   From: Ben Waltuck
>   >   >   To: C320-List
>   >   >   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:09 PM
>   >   >   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system
>   >   >  
>   >   >  
>   >   >   I'm planning on setting up my Dutchman
> system
>   >   > tomorrow.. it came with
>   >   >   the boat from the previous owner, and I
> just
>   > never
>   >   > got around to
>   >   >   installing it.
>   >   >  
>   >   >   My question is:
>   >   >   My current sail cover doesn't have slits
> for
>   > the
>   >   > vertical dutchman
>   >   >   lines, so I think I'll need to drop the
> entire
>   >   > system down to put the
>   >   >   cover over the boom.. I should be able to
> mark
>   > the
>   >   > correct hoisted
>   >   >   position on the topping lift with a
> permanent
>   >   > marker so that I can
>   >   >   re-hoist the system each time before I
> hoist
>   > the
>   >   > main.. but when I put
>   >   >   it all away, I'll have no topping lift to
> my
>   >   > boom..
> 
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Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867, 
Farmville, NC

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