[C320-list] C320-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44

[Ralph Winkler]

Orlando,
We hope that both you and your 1st mate enjoy the dream.

Ralph Winkler

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>   1. Re: Turnbuckles (STINKIN GRINGO)
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>   3. Re: FW:  Cutlass bearing (Rod Boer)
>   4. Re: adding gxm 30 antenna (Sandy Olson)
>   5. Genoa turning blocks (Larry Barr)
>   6. Re: FW:  Cutlass bearing (Jeff Church)
>   7. Re: Pushpit mounting (Steven Magennis)
>   8. Re: adding gxm 30 antenna (Allan Field)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:13:06 -0500
> From: bousum at webtv.net (STINKIN GRINGO)
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Turnbuckles
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> Does anyone know who makes or sells the bronze turnbuckle bodys for the
> shrouds? Thanks STINKIN # 711
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:19:37 -0800
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New Boat....
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> Remember, as Bob Bitchin says, "Don't dream the life, live the dream"....
>
> I'm lucky in that this just isn't something where I'm the only one who 
> wants to do it, my co-skipper feels the same way, she is just as excited 
> about it as me. I feel good in that I never had to talk anyone into do 
> this, she's the one who said to me about 10 years ago that we should get a 
> cruising boat, retire early and go to Mexico, the So Pacific and the 
> Carib...her only parameters is we go no further west than Australia, she 
> has no interest in the Indian Ocean, or Africa..
>
> cuba libre 2
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New Boat....
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> Orlandi,
>
>  You're going to be living my dream!
>
>  John (Sojourn645)
>
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
>
> Well folks, just heard from my friend/dealer at Farralone Yachts--Roger
> Frizzelle-that Catalina/Morgan 440 hull #35 will be cuba libre
> 3....completion date is scheduled for 5/31/06 with delivery to the SF Bay
> area a week or so later.
>
> The co-skipper and I bought it thru Roger due to our long friendship (he
> is a former 320 owner and current owner of C470 #1-Di's Dream-and the fact
> that he knows how to commission a cruising boat better than anyone I
> know...
>
> After commissioning, the co-skipper and I will take offshore delivery and
> sail it from San Francisco to Ensenada, Mexico where it will stay for
> about 4 months at Coral Marina before it settles in at it's homeport of
> Marina del Rey, CA
>
> It took a long time to get the hull # slotted because we ordered it with
> an aluminum toe rail instead of the teak cap rail....
>
> We plan on retiring early and taking off for Mexico and then the South
> Pacific starting in October, 2008...if you woud like to follow the voyages
> of cuba libre, go to www.cubalibre3.net , pictures of the boat being built
> and commissioned will be on display...
>
> cuba libre 2
>
> --------------------------
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> OD
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:28:36 -0500
> From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW:  Cutlass bearing
> To: <kmielen at iwon.com>, "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Hi Karl,
>
> I have approximately 500 hrs on my cutlass bearing.  The reason that I am
> replacing it is that I discovered play between the bearing and the shaft
> right before launch this last spring. It was only in the vertical 
> direction
> which made me wonder whether the engine mounts needed replacing.  Since I
> was going to pull the rudder to do that, I figured it might be a good time
> to change to a stainless steel shaft so I had one made at a machine shop 
> in
> Maryland.
>
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:05 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Cutlass bearing
>
>
>>
>> Great site Rod. Thanks for sharing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since my hull # is only 2 away from you, I must ask:
>>
>> Is there a specific reason you are replacing the cutlass bearing at this
>> time, ie. noise, vibration, hard stop? or is it preventative maintenance?
>> How many hrs do you have on the current bearing?
>>
>> Do you anticipate the need to drop the rudder to do so?
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>
>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>>
>> New Bern, NC
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rod Boer
>>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:32:18 -0500
>>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Cutlass bearing
>>
>>
>>
>> For those that are replacing their cutlass bearing I found a good source.
>> I couldn't believe it when I went on the WM site and discovered that they
>> had jacked the price of the Trellex-Morse BLACKFISH cutlass bearing from
>> $79.99 to $89.99.  I just ordered the same bearing from
>> www.boatersdiscount.com for $40.14 plus shipping.
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:40:53 -0500
> From: "Sandy Olson" <Jams9191 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] adding gxm 30 antenna
> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> Anyone have suggestions on where/how to mount this new antenna which
> gives access to xm radio and weather?  I am thinking stern on portside
> but unsure how to run the wire from there to the pedestal where the GPS
> unit will be mounted. Do I need to drill into the boat (if so what
> supplies would I need) and how do I get the wire into the pedestal?
>
> Sandy #466
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:52 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pushpit mounting
>
> What the heck is a pushpit???
>
>  John(Sojourn645)
>
> Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
>  Does anyone know off-hand how the pushpits are mounted to the boat?
>
> I want to pull one off to mount a GPS antenna and run the wires
> internally. There are just 7 screws, but what do they go into? If into
> tapped plates glassed to the hull - great! If into individual nuts,
> which then fall off and get lost between the hull and the liner - not
> great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave #642
>
> [By the bye, I finally have the new SS shaft installed. Solution was
> finally to just let the yard do it. Took them about 4 hours to lift the
> boat, drop the rudder, and install the shaft.]
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:11:29 -0600
> From: "Larry Barr" <larry142 at cox.net>
> Subject: [C320-list] Genoa turning blocks
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> I am planning on replacing the turning blocks on my 2002 C320 from the
> Lewmar to Gauhauer that have bearing. I looked today and found no access 
> to
> the under side of the blocks where they are installed. My question is, are
> the OEM blocks bolted on or tapped into a deck plate glassed into the 
> deck.
> The blocks that I have to replace the current ones habe the same bolt
> pattern.
>
> Larry
> Great Scot #924
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:29:05 -0600
> From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW:  Cutlass bearing
> To: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>, "C320-List"
> <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <002601c63a52$816c5e50$6401a8c0 at JCJG1>
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> Karl,
>
> If you need to replace the bearing, it can be done without removing the
> shaft and rudder. A local yard should have a cutlass bearing puller and
> charge about 1.5 hours labor. You can see a picture of one on the C36 
> site:
> http://www.catalina36.org/association/TomSenatorsToolbox2.htm
> I'm having mine done this spring. I've got 425 hours and the bearing is
> already worn out. Maybe the PO never aligned the engine or ran it in a 
> very
> silty area.
>
> Rod,
> How much did the SS shaft cost? I might be tempted to replace mine since I
> already plan to R&R the PSS seal to do the upgrade. With the cutlass 
> bearing
> and shaft seal removed, maybe the shaft will come off without removing the
> rudder. If not, I'll stick with the OE shaft.
>
> JeffC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> To: <kmielen at iwon.com>; "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Cutlass bearing
>
>
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> I have approximately 500 hrs on my cutlass bearing.  The reason that I am
>> replacing it is that I discovered play between the bearing and the shaft
>> right before launch this last spring. It was only in the vertical
>> direction
>> which made me wonder whether the engine mounts needed replacing.  Since I
>> was going to pull the rudder to do that, I figured it might be a good 
>> time
>> to change to a stainless steel shaft so I had one made at a machine shop
>> in
>> Maryland.
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:05 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Cutlass bearing
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Great site Rod. Thanks for sharing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since my hull # is only 2 away from you, I must ask:
>>>
>>> Is there a specific reason you are replacing the cutlass bearing at this
>>> time, ie. noise, vibration, hard stop? or is it preventative 
>>> maintenance?
>>> How many hrs do you have on the current bearing?
>>>
>>> Do you anticipate the need to drop the rudder to do so?
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>>
>>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>>>
>>> New Bern, NC
>>>
>>> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Rod Boer
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:32:18 -0500
>>>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Cutlass bearing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those that are replacing their cutlass bearing I found a good 
>>> source.
>>> I couldn't believe it when I went on the WM site and discovered that 
>>> they
>>> had jacked the price of the Trellex-Morse BLACKFISH cutlass bearing from
>>> $79.99 to $89.99.  I just ordered the same bearing from
>>> www.boatersdiscount.com for $40.14 plus shipping.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:55:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steven Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pushpit mounting
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Pushpit is the correct name for stern pulpit.
>
> Steve
> Alchemist #909
>
> --- John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> What the heck is a pushpit???
>>
>>   John(Sojourn645)
>>
>> Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
>>   Does anyone know off-hand how the pushpits are mounted to the boat?
>>
>> I want to pull one off to mount a GPS antenna and run the wires
>> internally. There are just 7 screws, but what do they go into? If
>> into
>> tapped plates glassed to the hull - great! If into individual nuts,
>> which then fall off and get lost between the hull and the liner - not
>> great.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dave #642
>>
>> [By the bye, I finally have the new SS shaft installed. Solution was
>> finally to just let the yard do it. Took them about 4 hours to lift
>> the
>> boat, drop the rudder, and install the shaft.]
>>
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>>
>>
>> John Van Vessem
>> Sojourn 645
>> Vallejo Yacht Club
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:30:13 -0500
> From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] adding gxm 30 antenna
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> Sandy - Following is a copy of a posting from about 2 weeks ago regarding
> the antenna mounting.  The August 2005 Mainsheet has an article in the 
> C320
> technical section regarding how to run wires to the binnacle.  I also 
> posted
> pictures in the Sea Shadow album out on the C320 website.
>
> Dave - I mounted a GPS antenna and an XM radio marine antenna to the aft
> stanchion, port side.  Here is what I did.
>
> I unhooked the 2 portside lifelines where they hook to the aft stanchion
> with the pelican hooks.  Sitting down in the port side locker (the one 
> made
> for a bicycle but not the bike rider!) I put a wrench on the nuts (there 
> are
> at the base of the tube that the pelican hooks attach to.  I needed 
> someone
> else topside to then back off the 3 bolts, using a large Phillips
> screwdriver, while I held the nuts from below.  The 3 bolts pass through 
> the
> tube base, then the deck, and then are backed with 3 large fender washers.
>
> Once these 3 bolts were backed off and removed, I was able to pull the 
> tube
> away and from the boat and slightly down alongside the rubrail so as to
> expose the underside of the tube base.  I then drilled a hole through the
> deck.  There was no metal backing plate in the deck.
>
> At this point, one should then re-epoxy the hole then drill a new hole for
> the antenna wires through the cured epoxy.  I did not do this.
>
> This is where the real fun starts.  Using a carbide drill bit (1/2-inch) 
> and
> an electric drill, I drilled a hole into the tube base from the bottom up.
> I have a portable scaffold so did this while standing on the scaffold next
> to the hull.  Make sure you wear eye protection and good gloves as the S/S
> shavings get very hot.  Drilling this hole at high speed took about 30
> minutes of continual drilling.  The base is thick as is the steel.
>
> I then drilled 2 very small holes, just large enough to pass my antenna
> wires through, into the stanchion where it runs parallel to the deck.  The
> first hole, for the GPS antenna, is about 6 inches back from the turn in 
> the
> tube and the second hole for the XM is about 12 inches further back.  I
> fished line up to the holes from the bottom and, using a surgical 
> hemostat,
> stuck the hemostat into the holes to grab the line and pull it through the
> hole.  From here on out, the job is easy.  Using the line as a messenger,
> pull the antenna wires down through the tube base and into the deck hole,
> slide the tube base back into position after a generous application of
> sealant, get your helper back to work from either in the locker or 
> topside,
> replace the bolts, nuts and washers, and run the antenna wires to 
> wherever.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Olson
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 3:41 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] adding gxm 30 antenna
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone have suggestions on where/how to mount this new antenna which
> gives access to xm radio and weather?  I am thinking stern on portside
> but unsure how to run the wire from there to the pedestal where the GPS
> unit will be mounted. Do I need to drill into the boat (if so what
> supplies would I need) and how do I get the wire into the pedestal?
>
> Sandy #466
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:52 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pushpit mounting
>
> What the heck is a pushpit???
>
>  John(Sojourn645)
>
> Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
>  Does anyone know off-hand how the pushpits are mounted to the boat?
>
> I want to pull one off to mount a GPS antenna and run the wires
> internally. There are just 7 screws, but what do they go into? If into
> tapped plates glassed to the hull - great! If into individual nuts,
> which then fall off and get lost between the hull and the liner - not
> great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave #642
>
> [By the bye, I finally have the new SS shaft installed. Solution was
> finally to just let the yard do it. Took them about 4 hours to lift the
> boat, drop the rudder, and install the shaft.]
>
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