[C320-list] C320-List Digest, Vol 5, Issue 44

Sun Feb 26 15:39:11 PST 2006

Sandy,
The xm package that I bought had the small black dome.  I double face taped 
it just outside one of the port hatch windows and was able to hid the wire 
inside down to the nav station panel and the radio.  In one season I only 
had one person notice the antenna and ask about "the funny little thingy 
there".

Ralph

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>   1. Re: Turnbuckles (STINKIN GRINGO)
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>   3. Re: FW:  Cutlass bearing (Rod Boer)
>   4. Re: adding gxm 30 antenna (Sandy Olson)
>   5. Genoa turning blocks (Larry Barr)
>   6. Re: FW:  Cutlass bearing (Jeff Church)
>   7. Re: Pushpit mounting (Steven Magennis)
>   8. Re: adding gxm 30 antenna (Allan Field)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:13:06 -0500
> From: bousum at webtv.net (STINKIN GRINGO)
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Turnbuckles
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> Does anyone know who makes or sells the bronze turnbuckle bodys for the
> shrouds? Thanks STINKIN # 711
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:19:37 -0800
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New Boat....
> To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Remember, as Bob Bitchin says, "Don't dream the life, live the dream"....
>
> I'm lucky in that this just isn't something where I'm the only one who 
> wants to do it, my co-skipper feels the same way, she is just as excited 
> about it as me. I feel good in that I never had to talk anyone into do 
> this, she's the one who said to me about 10 years ago that we should get a 
> cruising boat, retire early and go to Mexico, the So Pacific and the 
> Carib...her only parameters is we go no further west than Australia, she 
> has no interest in the Indian Ocean, or Africa..
>
> cuba libre 2
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New Boat....
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> Orlandi,
>
>  You're going to be living my dream!
>
>  John (Sojourn645)
>
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
>
> Well folks, just heard from my friend/dealer at Farralone Yachts--Roger
> Frizzelle-that Catalina/Morgan 440 hull #35 will be cuba libre
> 3....completion date is scheduled for 5/31/06 with delivery to the SF Bay
> area a week or so later.
>
> The co-skipper and I bought it thru Roger due to our long friendship (he
> is a former 320 owner and current owner of C470 #1-Di's Dream-and the fact
> that he knows how to commission a cruising boat better than anyone I
> know...
>
> After commissioning, the co-skipper and I will take offshore delivery and
> sail it from San Francisco to Ensenada, Mexico where it will stay for
> about 4 months at Coral Marina before it settles in at it's homeport of
> Marina del Rey, CA
>
> It took a long time to get the hull # slotted because we ordered it with
> an aluminum toe rail instead of the teak cap rail....
>
> We plan on retiring early and taking off for Mexico and then the South
> Pacific starting in October, 2008...if you woud like to follow the voyages
> of cuba libre, go to www.cubalibre3.net , pictures of the boat being built
> and commissioned will be on display...
>
> cuba libre 2
>
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> OD
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:28:36 -0500
> From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW:  Cutlass bearing
> To: <kmielen at iwon.com>, "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Hi Karl,
>
> I have approximately 500 hrs on my cutlass bearing.  The reason that I am
> replacing it is that I discovered play between the bearing and the shaft
> right before launch this last spring. It was only in the vertical 
> direction
> which made me wonder whether the engine mounts needed replacing.  Since I
> was going to pull the rudder to do that, I figured it might be a good time
> to change to a stainless steel shaft so I had one made at a machine shop 
> in
> Maryland.
>
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:05 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Cutlass bearing
>
>
>>
>> Great site Rod. Thanks for sharing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since my hull # is only 2 away from you, I must ask:
>>
>> Is there a specific reason you are replacing the cutlass bearing at this
>> time, ie. noise, vibration, hard stop? or is it preventative maintenance?
>> How many hrs do you have on the current bearing?
>>
>> Do you anticipate the need to drop the rudder to do so?
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>
>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>>
>> New Bern, NC
>>
>> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rod Boer
>>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:32:18 -0500
>>
>> Subject: [C320-list] Cutlass bearing
>>
>>
>>
>> For those that are replacing their cutlass bearing I found a good source.
>> I couldn't believe it when I went on the WM site and discovered that they
>> had jacked the price of the Trellex-Morse BLACKFISH cutlass bearing from
>> $79.99 to $89.99.  I just ordered the same bearing from
>> www.boatersdiscount.com for $40.14 plus shipping.
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:40:53 -0500
> From: "Sandy Olson" <Jams9191 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] adding gxm 30 antenna
> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Hi all,
>
> Anyone have suggestions on where/how to mount this new antenna which
> gives access to xm radio and weather?  I am thinking stern on portside
> but unsure how to run the wire from there to the pedestal where the GPS
> unit will be mounted. Do I need to drill into the boat (if so what
> supplies would I need) and how do I get the wire into the pedestal?
>
> Sandy #466
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:52 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pushpit mounting
>
> What the heck is a pushpit???
>
>  John(Sojourn645)
>
> Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
>  Does anyone know off-hand how the pushpits are mounted to the boat?
>
> I want to pull one off to mount a GPS antenna and run the wires
> internally. There are just 7 screws, but what do they go into? If into
> tapped plates glassed to the hull - great! If into individual nuts,
> which then fall off and get lost between the hull and the liner - not
> great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave #642
>
> [By the bye, I finally have the new SS shaft installed. Solution was
> finally to just let the yard do it. Took them about 4 hours to lift the
> boat, drop the rudder, and install the shaft.]
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:11:29 -0600
> From: "Larry Barr" <larry142 at cox.net>
> Subject: [C320-list] Genoa turning blocks
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> I am planning on replacing the turning blocks on my 2002 C320 from the
> Lewmar to Gauhauer that have bearing. I looked today and found no access 
> to
> the under side of the blocks where they are installed. My question is, are
> the OEM blocks bolted on or tapped into a deck plate glassed into the 
> deck.
> The blocks that I have to replace the current ones habe the same bolt
> pattern.
>
> Larry
> Great Scot #924
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:29:05 -0600
> From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW:  Cutlass bearing
> To: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>, "C320-List"
> <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Message-ID: <002601c63a52$816c5e50$6401a8c0 at JCJG1>
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> Karl,
>
> If you need to replace the bearing, it can be done without removing the
> shaft and rudder. A local yard should have a cutlass bearing puller and
> charge about 1.5 hours labor. You can see a picture of one on the C36 
> site:
> http://www.catalina36.org/association/TomSenatorsToolbox2.htm
> I'm having mine done this spring. I've got 425 hours and the bearing is
> already worn out. Maybe the PO never aligned the engine or ran it in a 
> very
> silty area.
>
> Rod,
> How much did the SS shaft cost? I might be tempted to replace mine since I
> already plan to R&R the PSS seal to do the upgrade. With the cutlass 
> bearing
> and shaft seal removed, maybe the shaft will come off without removing the
> rudder. If not, I'll stick with the OE shaft.
>
> JeffC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rod Boer" <rod.boer1 at verizon.net>
> To: <kmielen at iwon.com>; "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Cutlass bearing
>
>
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> I have approximately 500 hrs on my cutlass bearing.  The reason that I am
>> replacing it is that I discovered play between the bearing and the shaft
>> right before launch this last spring. It was only in the vertical
>> direction
>> which made me wonder whether the engine mounts needed replacing.  Since I
>> was going to pull the rudder to do that, I figured it might be a good 
>> time
>> to change to a stainless steel shaft so I had one made at a machine shop
>> in
>> Maryland.
>>
>> Rod
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
>> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:05 AM
>> Subject: [C320-list] FW: Cutlass bearing
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Great site Rod. Thanks for sharing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Since my hull # is only 2 away from you, I must ask:
>>>
>>> Is there a specific reason you are replacing the cutlass bearing at this
>>> time, ie. noise, vibration, hard stop? or is it preventative 
>>> maintenance?
>>> How many hrs do you have on the current bearing?
>>>
>>> Do you anticipate the need to drop the rudder to do so?
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>>
>>> Karl Mielenhausen
>>>
>>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>>>
>>> New Bern, NC
>>>
>>> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Rod Boer
>>>
>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:32:18 -0500
>>>
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Cutlass bearing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those that are replacing their cutlass bearing I found a good 
>>> source.
>>> I couldn't believe it when I went on the WM site and discovered that 
>>> they
>>> had jacked the price of the Trellex-Morse BLACKFISH cutlass bearing from
>>> $79.99 to $89.99.  I just ordered the same bearing from
>>> www.boatersdiscount.com for $40.14 plus shipping.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:55:28 -0800 (PST)
> From: Steven Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pushpit mounting
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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> Pushpit is the correct name for stern pulpit.
>
> Steve
> Alchemist #909
>
> --- John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> What the heck is a pushpit???
>>
>>   John(Sojourn645)
>>
>> Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
>>   Does anyone know off-hand how the pushpits are mounted to the boat?
>>
>> I want to pull one off to mount a GPS antenna and run the wires
>> internally. There are just 7 screws, but what do they go into? If
>> into
>> tapped plates glassed to the hull - great! If into individual nuts,
>> which then fall off and get lost between the hull and the liner - not
>> great.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dave #642
>>
>> [By the bye, I finally have the new SS shaft installed. Solution was
>> finally to just let the yard do it. Took them about 4 hours to lift
>> the
>> boat, drop the rudder, and install the shaft.]
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> John Van Vessem
>> Sojourn 645
>> Vallejo Yacht Club
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:30:13 -0500
> From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] adding gxm 30 antenna
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> Sandy - Following is a copy of a posting from about 2 weeks ago regarding
> the antenna mounting.  The August 2005 Mainsheet has an article in the 
> C320
> technical section regarding how to run wires to the binnacle.  I also 
> posted
> pictures in the Sea Shadow album out on the C320 website.
>
> Dave - I mounted a GPS antenna and an XM radio marine antenna to the aft
> stanchion, port side.  Here is what I did.
>
> I unhooked the 2 portside lifelines where they hook to the aft stanchion
> with the pelican hooks.  Sitting down in the port side locker (the one 
> made
> for a bicycle but not the bike rider!) I put a wrench on the nuts (there 
> are
> at the base of the tube that the pelican hooks attach to.  I needed 
> someone
> else topside to then back off the 3 bolts, using a large Phillips
> screwdriver, while I held the nuts from below.  The 3 bolts pass through 
> the
> tube base, then the deck, and then are backed with 3 large fender washers.
>
> Once these 3 bolts were backed off and removed, I was able to pull the 
> tube
> away and from the boat and slightly down alongside the rubrail so as to
> expose the underside of the tube base.  I then drilled a hole through the
> deck.  There was no metal backing plate in the deck.
>
> At this point, one should then re-epoxy the hole then drill a new hole for
> the antenna wires through the cured epoxy.  I did not do this.
>
> This is where the real fun starts.  Using a carbide drill bit (1/2-inch) 
> and
> an electric drill, I drilled a hole into the tube base from the bottom up.
> I have a portable scaffold so did this while standing on the scaffold next
> to the hull.  Make sure you wear eye protection and good gloves as the S/S
> shavings get very hot.  Drilling this hole at high speed took about 30
> minutes of continual drilling.  The base is thick as is the steel.
>
> I then drilled 2 very small holes, just large enough to pass my antenna
> wires through, into the stanchion where it runs parallel to the deck.  The
> first hole, for the GPS antenna, is about 6 inches back from the turn in 
> the
> tube and the second hole for the XM is about 12 inches further back.  I
> fished line up to the holes from the bottom and, using a surgical 
> hemostat,
> stuck the hemostat into the holes to grab the line and pull it through the
> hole.  From here on out, the job is easy.  Using the line as a messenger,
> pull the antenna wires down through the tube base and into the deck hole,
> slide the tube base back into position after a generous application of
> sealant, get your helper back to work from either in the locker or 
> topside,
> replace the bolts, nuts and washers, and run the antenna wires to 
> wherever.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Sandy Olson
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 3:41 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] adding gxm 30 antenna
>
> Hi all,
>
> Anyone have suggestions on where/how to mount this new antenna which
> gives access to xm radio and weather?  I am thinking stern on portside
> but unsure how to run the wire from there to the pedestal where the GPS
> unit will be mounted. Do I need to drill into the boat (if so what
> supplies would I need) and how do I get the wire into the pedestal?
>
> Sandy #466
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 10:52 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pushpit mounting
>
> What the heck is a pushpit???
>
>  John(Sojourn645)
>
> Dave Anderer <danderer at udel.edu> wrote:
>  Does anyone know off-hand how the pushpits are mounted to the boat?
>
> I want to pull one off to mount a GPS antenna and run the wires
> internally. There are just 7 screws, but what do they go into? If into
> tapped plates glassed to the hull - great! If into individual nuts,
> which then fall off and get lost between the hull and the liner - not
> great.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave #642
>
> [By the bye, I finally have the new SS shaft installed. Solution was
> finally to just let the yard do it. Took them about 4 hours to lift the
> boat, drop the rudder, and install the shaft.]
>
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