[C320-list] Hot Water Tank
Quentin Murphy
qmurphy at sympatico.ca
Thu Jul 20 12:10:55 PDT 2006
Dave:
What do you mean "...remove three drawers..."? There are only two drawers
as far as I'm concerned. That thing at the top you can't even keep a cork
screw in. Has anyone changed the drawer slides there to full suspension so
the stupid thing opens more than an inch or so?
Quentin Murphy
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of David J Gleason
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 1:59 PM
To: Allan.Field at comcast.net; C320-List at catalina320.com
Cc: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hot Water Tank
Allen:
The way you state, "I would have to remove the entire drawer assembly to
get to the drain valve." makes it sound like a tough job. I have found
that it takes no more than a couple minutes to remove the three drawers,
remove six screws an lift it out. It probably only weighs around 5 to 10
pounds. No Problem.
Dave Gleason
Proud Mary, #150
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 05:57:25 -0400 "Allan Field"
<Allan.Field at comcast.net> writes:
> Ralph - I thought of your solution for the hot water tank. But on
> Sea
> Shadow, I would have to remove the entire drawer assembly to get to
> the
> drain valve. The problems with this tank are that the drain valve
> is too
> high to really serve as a drain valve and it should be positioned on
> the
> side of the tank, not the "front" under the electrical connections.
> I put
> 18 gallons of pink stuff in the water tanks each winter and run all
> the
> spigots until pure pink is coming out. A small price to pay... -
> Allan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
> Winkler
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:15 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Hot Water Tank
>
> I've been down that road with both Wind Dancer our C320 and our
> previous
> boat. A couple years ago I caught onto the idea of not leaving the
> pink
> stuff in the system over the winter. Now, using a wet vac I suck
> ALL the
> water out of the whole system (hot and cold). Don't forget the
> stern
> shower. Then I dump a couple gal. of pink stuff into the water
> tank(s) and
> reprime the system and also run ALL the water faucets. Lastly, I
> then suck
> all the pink out.
>
> On the hot water heater you have to vac out the water through the
> drain
> valve on the tank as it's lower then the water system intake, at
> least on
> our system it is.
>
> This process might sound like allot of screwing around but it really
> is'ent
> once you get the system down. I doubt that it takes me an hour
> start to
> finish. I found a little 1.5 gal wet vac at ACE that works great
> and is
> easy to handle for this job.
>
> In spring I run a full tank of water through the whole system along
> with a
> couple drops of bleach and we're ready to go.
>
> Ralph Winker
> Milwaukee
> Wind Dancer $394
>
>
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> > 1. Re: midship Cleats (Steve Magennis)
> > 2. Re: midship Cleats (Steve Magennis)
> > 3. Re: midship Cleats (Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D.)
> > 4. Hot water tank (brer at adelphia.net)
> > 5. Re: Hot water tank (Ben Waltuck)
> > 6. Re: attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker Pole Trac k
> > (Weikel Paul)
> > 7. Re: Hot water tank (Quentin Murphy)
> > 8. Re: midship Cleats (Steve Magennis)
> > 9. Re: midship Cleats (MARSHALL M LUCAS)
> > 10. Fw: Head door removal (Jerry Clayton)
> > 11. Re: Hot water tank (BAdams3491 at aol.com)
> >
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:57:53 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID:
> <20060719145753.5182.qmail at web55310.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > I like my Garhauer. They fit on teh track and are both large and
> > strong.
> >
> > Steve
> > Alchemist #909
> >
> > --- Nigel Price <nigel.price at bigpond.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Guys, I'm confused.
> >> Reckon midship track cleats are the way to go but haven't a
> clue
> >> which
> >> brand to buy for my 2005 #1061.
> >> What's the concensus?
> >> Thanks, Nigel
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
> >> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >>
> >>
> >> > Thanks Irv.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Irv
> Grunes
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:46 AM
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bacon's is the sail consignment store in Annapolis. They
> have
> >> all sorts
> >> of
> >> > used stuff there.
> >> > They are at baconsails.com and are very responsive to email
> >> requests.
> >> > There are a bunch of consignment shops in the Newport, RI
> area,
> >> but I
> >> don't
> >> > know their names
> >> > Irv Grunes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Bryan
> >> Campbell
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:53 AM
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > what is Bacon's?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Irv
> Grunes
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:36 PM
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Check Ebay or Bacon's or some of the consignment shops before
> you
> >> pay
> >> the
> >> > full Schaeffer price.
> >> > Maybe Defender, or one of those guys might have a better
> price.
> >> > Irv Grunes
> >> > Isle of Wight #851
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of K L
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:44 PM
> >> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I bought a pair of Schaefer Mid-Rail Cleats which work great
> and
> >> take
> >> only
> >> > about 30 seconds to install. Here is a link if you want to
> check
> >> them
> >> out:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
http://www.pyacht.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/h-schae
fer
> >> > _mid_rail_cleats.htm?L+scstore+zbgr9098ffc9b2c9
> >> >
> >> > Ken Danko
> >> > Grace, #802
> >> > San Francisco
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "June Bruce" <brucestanley36 at hotmail.com>
> >> >>Reply-To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> >>To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> >>Subject: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:16:43 +1000
> >> >>
> >> >>I have a need to install midship Cleats on my C320
> >> >>
> >> >>The backing plate is the big question ...
> >> >>particularly getting to the narrow toe rail.
> >> >>
> >> >>Another option would be to position the midship Cleat in from
> the
> >> toe
> >> rail,
> >> >>but this is not my preferred point.
> >> >>
> >> >>Any advice on the backing plate and otherwise would be
> >> appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks
> >> >>Bruce Stanley #1084
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:02:56 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > They lock in the holes JUST FINE. You may have either a defective
> set
> > of cleats or a defective track. Have you talked to Garhauer about
> your
> > problem? It is important to actually align the pin with the
> holes, and
> > it is a reasonably precise fit, but I have NEVER had any problem
> > getting the pins in my Garhauer midship cleats to fit into the
> holes in
> > my genoa track, nor have they EVER slipped.
> >
> > Steve
> > Alchemist C#909
> >
> > --- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I do not recommend the Garhauer cleats for the reason I
> mentioned
> >> already. They do not lock in the holes in the track and
> therefore
> >> slide under a load.
> >> __
> >> Kurt R. Budelmann
> >> Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Nigel Price
> >> To: C320-List
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys, I'm confused.
> >> Reckon midship track cleats are the way to go but haven't a
> clue
> >> which
> >> brand to buy for my 2005 #1061.
> >> What's the concensus?
> >> Thanks, Nigel
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
> >> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >>
> >>
> >> > Thanks Irv.
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Irv
> >> Grunes
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:46 AM
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Bacon's is the sail consignment store in Annapolis. They
> have
> >> all sorts
> >> of
> >> > used stuff there.
> >> > They are at baconsails.com and are very responsive to
> email
> >> requests.
> >> > There are a bunch of consignment shops in the Newport, RI
> area,
> >> but I
> >> don't
> >> > know their names
> >> > Irv Grunes
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Bryan
> >> Campbell
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:53 AM
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > what is Bacon's?
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Irv
> >> Grunes
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:36 PM
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Check Ebay or Bacon's or some of the consignment shops
> before
> >> you pay
> >> the
> >> > full Schaeffer price.
> >> > Maybe Defender, or one of those guys might have a better
> price.
> >> > Irv Grunes
> >> > Isle of Wight #851
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of K L
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:44 PM
> >> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I bought a pair of Schaefer Mid-Rail Cleats which work
> great
> >> and take
> >> only
> >> > about 30 seconds to install. Here is a link if you want to
> >> check them
> >> out:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
http://www.pyacht.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/h-schae
fer
> >> > _mid_rail_cleats.htm?L+scstore+zbgr9098ffc9b2c9
> >> >
> >> > Ken Danko
> >> > Grace, #802
> >> > San Francisco
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "June Bruce" <brucestanley36 at hotmail.com>
> >> >>Reply-To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> >>To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> >>Subject: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:16:43 +1000
> >> >>
> >> >>I have a need to install midship Cleats on my C320
> >> >>
> >> >>The backing plate is the big question ...
> >> >>particularly getting to the narrow toe rail.
> >> >>
> >> >>Another option would be to position the midship Cleat in
> from
> >> the toe
> >> rail,
> >> >>but this is not my preferred point.
> >> >>
> >> >>Any advice on the backing plate and otherwise would be
> >> appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks
> >> >>Bruce Stanley #1084
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:14:10 -0400
> > From: "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <008b01c6ab45$fd191390$9b01a8c0 at lchcs.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Do you own their stock? ;) I am in the process of contacting
> Garhauer.
> > __
> > Kurt R. Budelmann
> > Everwind Catalina 320 #1035
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Steve Magennis
> > To: C320-List
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >
> >
> > They lock in the holes JUST FINE. You may have either a
> defective set
> > of cleats or a defective track. Have you talked to Garhauer
> about your
> > problem? It is important to actually align the pin with the
> holes, and
> > it is a reasonably precise fit, but I have NEVER had any problem
> > getting the pins in my Garhauer midship cleats to fit into the
> holes in
> > my genoa track, nor have they EVER slipped.
> >
> > Steve
> > Alchemist C#909
> >
> > --- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> > > I do not recommend the Garhauer cleats for the reason I
> mentioned
> > > already. They do not lock in the holes in the track and
> therefore
> > > slide under a load.
> > > __
> > > Kurt R. Budelmann
> > > Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Nigel Price
> > > To: C320-List
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > >
> > >
> > > Guys, I'm confused.
> > > Reckon midship track cleats are the way to go but haven't a
> clue
> > > which
> > > brand to buy for my 2005 #1061.
> > > What's the concensus?
> > > Thanks, Nigel
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
> > > To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks Irv.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Irv
> > > Grunes
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:46 AM
> > > > To: C320-List
> > > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bacon's is the sail consignment store in Annapolis. They
> have
> > > all sorts
> > > of
> > > > used stuff there.
> > > > They are at baconsails.com and are very responsive to
> email
> > > requests.
> > > > There are a bunch of consignment shops in the Newport, RI
> area,
> > > but I
> > > don't
> > > > know their names
> > > > Irv Grunes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Bryan
> > > Campbell
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:53 AM
> > > > To: C320-List
> > > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > what is Bacon's?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Irv
> > > Grunes
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:36 PM
> > > > To: C320-List
> > > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Check Ebay or Bacon's or some of the consignment shops
> before
> > > you pay
> > > the
> > > > full Schaeffer price.
> > > > Maybe Defender, or one of those guys might have a better
> price.
> > > > Irv Grunes
> > > > Isle of Wight #851
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of K
> L
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:44 PM
> > > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I bought a pair of Schaefer Mid-Rail Cleats which work
> great
> > > and take
> > > only
> > > > about 30 seconds to install. Here is a link if you want
> to
> > > check them
> > > out:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
http://www.pyacht.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/h-schae
fer
> > > > _mid_rail_cleats.htm?L+scstore+zbgr9098ffc9b2c9
> > > >
> > > > Ken Danko
> > > > Grace, #802
> > > > San Francisco
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: "June Bruce" <brucestanley36 at hotmail.com>
> > > >>Reply-To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > > >>To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > > >>Subject: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > > >>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:16:43 +1000
> > > >>
> > > >>I have a need to install midship Cleats on my C320
> > > >>
> > > >>The backing plate is the big question ...
> > > >>particularly getting to the narrow toe rail.
> > > >>
> > > >>Another option would be to position the midship Cleat in
> from
> > > the toe
> > > rail,
> > > >>but this is not my preferred point.
> > > >>
> > > >>Any advice on the backing plate and otherwise would be
> > > appreciated.
> > > >>
> > > >>Thanks
> > > >>Bruce Stanley #1084
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 8:36:30 -0700
> > From: <brer at adelphia.net>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Hot water tank
> > To: Don <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <28143332.1153323390553.JavaMail.root at web25>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I'm premature on this subject, but need a direction on
> winterization of
> > the water system. I just bought #165 and the boat was winterized
> with pink
>
> > antifreeze. The water that comes out of the hot water tank is
> foul, it
> > stinks. I think heating this stuff is what does it. I have run
> several
> > tanks through it and it is getting better. How do you guys
> winterize your
> > water system. Can I winterize the hot water tank without inducing
> the pink
>
> > stuff into the tank? I just want to have an idea so if I need to
> modify
> > anything I can do it when the weather is decent. Thank you, Don
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:46:22 -0400
> > From: Ben Waltuck <benw at sun.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hot water tank
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <44BE53CE.90804 at sun.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > I have the same problem..
> > I've found that "Aquabon" (available at West Marine for about $10)
> does
> > a reasonably good job of removing the sulfur smell.
> >
> >
> > brer at adelphia.net wrote:
> >
> >>I'm premature on this subject, but need a direction on
> winterization of
> >>the water system. I just bought #165 and the boat was winterized
> with pink
>
> >>antifreeze. The water that comes out of the hot water tank is
> foul, it
> >>stinks. I think heating this stuff is what does it. I have run
> several
> >>tanks through it and it is getting better. How do you guys
> winterize your
> >>water system. Can I winterize the hot water tank without inducing
> the pink
>
> >>stuff into the tank? I just want to have an idea so if I need to
> modify
> >>anything I can do it when the weather is decent. Thank you, Don
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:54:14 -0400
> > From: Weikel Paul <Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker
> Pole
> > Trac k
> > To: 'C320-List' <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <976E217B67F780449FA96090CE2A5D25068C13 at marlex00>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > I can't validate the strength of the tracks but 1 inch seems
> reasonable to
> > me.
> >
> >
> > You might want to re-think storage on the stanchions as that
> creates
> > opportunity for jib sheat lines to get fouled. I like to design
> out
> > nuisances like that.
> >
> >
> > Paul
> > Second Chance #361
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Krause [mailto:al_exander at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:01 AM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker
> Pole Trac
>
> > k
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > What about 1" track? I have a nice 10' piece but was uncertain
> of the
> > strength. Are there any hard fast rules? I plan to mount the
> whisker
> > and/or spinnikar pole on the stanchions.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex Krause
> > Coruna Cat #273
> > Huntington Beach, CA
> >
> >
> > Weikel Paul <Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com> wrote:
> > Alex,
> >
> > Yes it was amusing and yes that's is what typically happens to me.
> I
> > wasn't
> > laughing too loud though as I went up & down a zillion times in
> 90+ temps.
> >
> > Machine screws were definitely 1/4 by 20 and fit both tracks.
> >
> > I went with the 10 foot length mounted about 18 inches from the
> base of
> > the
> > mast because I wanted to store the pole on the track. Collapsed
> pole
> > length
> > is about 11 feet. One end of the pole remains on the cam car and
> the other
> > end latches into a deck mounted piece.
> >
> > I do not have photos, but check Allan Field's album on the C320
> site - he
> > just may have posted some of his installation. This installation
> would
> > work
> > fine for a spinnaker.
> >
> >
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> > #361
> > Georgetown, MD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Krause [mailto:al_exander at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:04 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker
> Pole Trac
>
> > k
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Very amusing story to me, only because this happens to me all the
> time.
> > The 1-1/4" track takes 1/4-20? I thought they were 5/16-18?
> >
> > I bought a 6' piece of 1-1/4" track from West Marine today. I'm
> not sure
> > it will be long enough and may take it back and get a longer piece
> of
> > track.
> > Do you have much experience with this? Why did you go with 10'?
> >
> > Do you have any photos of the setup you are planning? My currents
> plans
> > are to use a cruising spinnakar but if I'm going to drill and tap
> and
> > install mast track I want it to accomodate a symetrical in case
> future
> > plans
> > change.
> >
> > Alex Krause
> > Couruna Cat #273
> >
> >
> > Weikel Paul
> > wrote:
> > Alex,
> >
> >
> > I'll try and make this a short story.
> >
> > I purchased a 10 foot piece of standard 1 1/4 track from West
> Marine.
> > Drilled and tapped the zillion holes in the mast.
> > Installed the track.
> > Went to put the Harken cam car on and guess what - It was made for
> a "CB"
> > rail and would not go on since the profile was different.
> > So back to West Marine and ordered the 10 foot piece of "CB"
> rail.
> >
> > Of course, the "CB" rail bolt hole center distance just had to be
>
> > different
> > between manufacturers. Drilled and tapped another zillion holes,
> mounted
> > the rail, put the cam car on, installed the halyard, and voila -
> done and
> > very satisfied.
> >
> >
> > So, to answer your question about which track - I say that depends
> on the
> > rest of your set=up. I personally like the set-up with the Harken
>
> > spinnaker
> > cam car and halyard which Allan Field has on Sea Shadow and showed
> me
> > during
> > his visit to the Sassafras River. I goofed on buying the wrong
> track.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> >
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> > #361
> > Georgetown, MD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Krause [mailto:al_exander at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 10:51 AM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker
> Pole Trac
>
> > k
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Did you use 1" or 1-1/4" mast track?
> >
> > Alex Krause
> > Coruna Cat #273
> > Huntington Beach, CA
> >
> > Weikel Paul
> > wrote:
> > Just now finishing up my installation of a track on the mast for a
> whisker
> > pole.
> >
> >
> > I used SS 1/4 inch 20 thread bolts that were 3/4 inch long. For
> that size
> > bolt, use a #7 drill, then tap with 1/4-20, apply Tefgel and screw
> in.
> > Worked fine.
> >
> >
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> > #361
> > Georgetown, MD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Magennis [mailto:magenns at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 7:14 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker
> Pole
> > Track
> >
> > I drilled and tapped the holes for the appropriate sized flat
> head
> > machine screw (as I recall, it was a 5/16" fine thread, 3/4"long
> > machine screw (NOT a sheet metal screw!!))
> >
> > Steve
> > Alchemist #909
> >
> > --- June Bruce
> > wrote:
> >
> >> attaching a Mast Cleat and a Spinnakker Pole Track
> >> Hopefully someone has done these, so my questions are:
> >>
> >> 1) do I just drill and bolt it on?
> >> or
> >> 2) drill and CUT A THREAD, then bolt it on??
> >>
> >> Appreciate all suggestions.
> >>
> >> Bruce Stanley #1084
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:58:25 -0400
> > From: "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hot water tank
> > To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <NEBBJJFGMLDFEMBDBABLOEBJDHAA.qmurphy at sympatico.ca>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I purchased my boat last September and the smell from the hot
> water was so
>
> > bad I had to air our the boat before I could go below. I flushed
> out the
> > water many, many times then. Over the winter, I did not put any
> > antifreeze in the hot water tank , but blew out any water that
> sits in the
>
> > bottom of that tank. This April, I flushed out the antifreeze I
> put in
> > the two water tanks two times then added water with breach and
> replaced it
>
> > with regular water. This year, there is still a little bit of the
> smell
> > from time to time, but nothing like last year. I fill the both
> water
> > tanks about once a every ten days, so the water through the system
> would
> > be changed on a average of every two-weeks, other any when on the
> boat for
>
> > long-weekends and vacation. I'm curious where that smell comes
> from. I
> > don't drink any water from the boat, only use it for brushing
> teeth.
> >
> > Quentin Murphy
> > Celtic Knot #667
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> brer at adelphia.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:36 AM
> > To: Don
> > Subject: [C320-list] Hot water tank
> >
> >
> > I'm premature on this subject, but need a direction on
> winterization of
> > the water system. I just bought #165 and the boat was winterized
> with pink
>
> > antifreeze. The water that comes out of the hot water tank is
> foul, it
> > stinks. I think heating this stuff is what does it. I have run
> several
> > tanks through it and it is getting better. How do you guys
> winterize your
> > water system. Can I winterize the hot water tank without inducing
> the pink
>
> > stuff into the tank? I just want to have an idea so if I need to
> modify
> > anything I can do it when the weather is decent. Thank you, Don
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:34:50 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID:
> <20060719163451.27049.qmail at web55305.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Garhauer is privately held by the Felgenaur (sp?) family, and
> they
> > supply a majority of the sail handling equipment for Catalina
> (Notable
> > exceptions are the cheek blocks for the Genoa sheets, the
> Dutchman
> > system, the winches, and the Roller Furler(s)) . Therefore, I
> don't
> > hold any stock in their company, and, as I am located in Holland
> Mi,
> > while they are located in California, I'm not an employee.
> >
> > That you had a problem with their equipment is VERY unusual, and
> most
> > people who have delt with them have been impresed with their level
> of
> > commitment to keeping the customers happy (for example, they back
> their
> > blocks (and most (if not all)) other equipment with a 10 year
> > guarantee).
> >
> > In the unlikely event that you get a clunker, Garhauer WILL make
> it
> > right. Practical Sailor always rated teh Garhauer equipment
> highly,
> > especially for reliability and ruggedness, with the biggest ding
> being
> > that the Garhauer stuff is heavier than the Harken or Schaffer
> > equivalents. I would not hesitate to purchase anything that
> Garhauer
> > manufactures fro use in safety critical areas on my boat.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > Alchemist #909
> >
> > --- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Do you own their stock? ;) I am in the process of contacting
> >> Garhauer.
> >> __
> >> Kurt R. Budelmann
> >> Everwind Catalina 320 #1035
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Steve Magennis
> >> To: C320-List
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 11:02 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >>
> >>
> >> They lock in the holes JUST FINE. You may have either a
> defective
> >> set
> >> of cleats or a defective track. Have you talked to Garhauer
> about
> >> your
> >> problem? It is important to actually align the pin with the
> holes,
> >> and
> >> it is a reasonably precise fit, but I have NEVER had any
> problem
> >> getting the pins in my Garhauer midship cleats to fit into the
> >> holes in
> >> my genoa track, nor have they EVER slipped.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >> Alchemist C#909
> >>
> >> --- "Kurt R. Budelmann, M.D." <krbmd77 at charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I do not recommend the Garhauer cleats for the reason I
> mentioned
> >> > already. They do not lock in the holes in the track and
> >> therefore
> >> > slide under a load.
> >> > __
> >> > Kurt R. Budelmann
> >> > Everwind, Catalina 320 #1035
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Nigel Price
> >> > To: C320-List
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:05 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Guys, I'm confused.
> >> > Reckon midship track cleats are the way to go but haven't
> a
> >> clue
> >> > which
> >> > brand to buy for my 2005 #1061.
> >> > What's the concensus?
> >> > Thanks, Nigel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Bryan Campbell" <bcampbell at valp.net>
> >> > To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Thanks Irv.
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Irv
> >> > Grunes
> >> > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:46 AM
> >> > > To: C320-List
> >> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Bacon's is the sail consignment store in Annapolis.
> They
> >> have
> >> > all sorts
> >> > of
> >> > > used stuff there.
> >> > > They are at baconsails.com and are very responsive to
> email
> >> > requests.
> >> > > There are a bunch of consignment shops in the Newport,
> RI
> >> area,
> >> > but I
> >> > don't
> >> > > know their names
> >> > > Irv Grunes
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> >> Bryan
> >> > Campbell
> >> > > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:53 AM
> >> > > To: C320-List
> >> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > what is Bacon's?
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> Irv
> >> > Grunes
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:36 PM
> >> > > To: C320-List
> >> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Check Ebay or Bacon's or some of the consignment shops
> >> before
> >> > you pay
> >> > the
> >> > > full Schaeffer price.
> >> > > Maybe Defender, or one of those guys might have a
> better
> >> price.
> >> > > Irv Grunes
> >> > > Isle of Wight #851
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> >> > > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of
> K L
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:44 PM
> >> > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > I bought a pair of Schaefer Mid-Rail Cleats which work
> >> great
> >> > and take
> >> > only
> >> > > about 30 seconds to install. Here is a link if you want
> to
> >> > check them
> >> > out:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
http://www.pyacht.net/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/online-store/scstore/h-schae
fer
> >> > > _mid_rail_cleats.htm?L+scstore+zbgr9098ffc9b2c9
> >> > >
> >> > > Ken Danko
> >> > > Grace, #802
> >> > > San Francisco
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>From: "June Bruce" <brucestanley36 at hotmail.com>
> >> > >>Reply-To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> > >>To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> > >>Subject: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> >> > >>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 09:16:43 +1000
> >> > >>
> >> > >>I have a need to install midship Cleats on my C320
> >> > >>
> >> > >>The backing plate is the big question ...
> >> > >>particularly getting to the narrow toe rail.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Another option would be to position the midship Cleat
> in
> >> from
> >> > the toe
> >> > rail,
> >> > >>but this is not my preferred point.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Any advice on the backing plate and otherwise would be
> >> > appreciated.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Thanks
> >> > >>Bruce Stanley #1084
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:11:59 -0400
> > From: "MARSHALL M LUCAS" <mtpoodles at atlanticbb.net>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] midship Cleats
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <web-3708454 at be1.cluster1.echolabs.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
> >
> > The problem could well be with the track since the
> > Schaefer cleats I tried did not fit the holes. Gerry
> > Douglass told me the Garhauer cleats would fit and I've
> > ordered them. I'll let everyone know if they fit.
> >
> > Marshall
> > Merrythought #1037
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:40:43 -0700
> > From: "Jerry Clayton" <jsea at prodigy.net>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Fw: Head door removal
> > To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Message-ID: <004201c6ab5a$77a646f0$faace704 at ownerccfbe0136>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> > reply-type=original
> >
> > My 2004 has a key slot on the outside of the lock, if it locks
> accidently
> > just insert the tip of a small knife and it unlocks.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry
> > Tropo #988
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
> > To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:28 PM
> > Subject: [C320-list] Head door removal
> >
> >
> > After daysailing with four 11 year old boys, we mysteriously found
> the
> > head
> > door locked from the inside. Luckily the head hatch was open and
> we were
> > able to unlock the door with a boat hook after removing the
> outside handle
> > and pushing in the center rod - which fell to the floor - this was
>
> > necessary
> > to be able to trip the lock with the boat hook from the hatch.
> Question:
> > if
> > the hatch was locked, what's to be done, is it possible to remove
> the
> > whole
> > door while it's locked??
> > Mike
> > Seychelle, 141
> > --------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 11
> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:58:21 EDT
> > From: BAdams3491 at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Hot water tank
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com, c320-list at catalina320.com
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> > You need to bypass the hot water tank when winterizing. I do
> this by
> > getting all the water out of the tank...by draining and pumping.
> Then
> > detach the
> > "cold in" line to the tank and detach the "hot out" line. Join
> these two
>
> > ends
> > with a small piece of hose (be sure to clamp them tightly). Now
> when you
> > pump the pink stuff through the lines, it will not go in the
> > tank...avoiding
> > wasting all the pink stuff and the associated odors.
> >
> > You can buy a hot water bypass kit that will do what I've
> explained
> > above...I just have not bothered.
> >
> > Bert
> > At Ease
> > #442
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