[C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation & mast step blocks

Thu Jun 15 21:01:04 PDT 2006

Jeff,
I thought the part of the mast step the blocks attached to was stainless?
Rollie  #182

> [Original Message]
> From: Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Date: 6/15/2006 9:07:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
>
> Paul,
>
>    Just a tip since you're using SS Screws. Don't forget to apply "USS
Ultra
> Tef-Gel" to the screw threads and the screw-holes in the track to
eliminate
> corrosion from dissimilar metals.
>
> I found the mast to be fairly easy to drill and tap, but try to be precise
> and level when marking & drilling the screw locations or the screw heads
may
> not sit flush with the track.
>
> It's also a good idea to unscrew your mast blocks sometime and apply
tef-gel
> to the studs to keep them from siezing up at the mast step.  If they sieze
> up, you may need to remove the mast step to fix them later.  One
application
> should last for 5+ years easily.
>
> -JeffH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Weikel Paul [mailto:Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:27 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
>
> Orlando & Dave,
>
> Thanks for the advice and help.
>
> I think I'll go with the 10-18 whisker pole, a 6 foot track mounted higher
> than the life lines and SS screws to attach the track to the mast. 
Storage
> clips on the lifeline stanchions as opposed to on the mast.
>
>
> Thanks again to all who commented.  Helpful list  !!
>
>
> Paul Weikel
> Second Chance
> #361
> Georgetown, MD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gleason [mailto:djgleason1 at juno.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Cc: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
>
> Paul:
>
> I had mounted the track using 1/4 flat head SS screws on Proud Mary.  I
> installed the track with the bottom about even with the life lines, as
> you will never set it lower that.  As it worked out, I have never set it
> that low when sailing.  I am thinking I used a 8' length of track.  You
> want the top of the track high enough so that you can store the pole
> completely up against the mast without the outboard end touching the
> deck.
>
> The 12-22 is over kill for the C-320.  I use a 10 - 18 on a 155 Genoa and
> have had good success.  The LP of a 135 is 16.2 feet.   This is the
> measurement perpendicular to the luff of the sail, so the distance away
> from the mast will be less than this distance.
>
> Dave Gleason
> Proud Mary, #155
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:43:36 -0400 Weikel Paul
> <Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com> writes:
> > Orlando,
> > 
> > Allan is checking his mast track location for me, but I thought you 
> > might
> > remember what track length you installed and how far off the cabin 
> > top ?
> > 
> > How did you mount track to the mast ?  Rivets or screws or ?
> > 
> > What pole for a 135 Genoa ?   12-22  ?
> > 
> > 
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> > [mailto:Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com] 
> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM
> > To: Allan Field; Catalina 320 List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> > 
> > I know you'll be getting the hang of it quickly! :) I'll make sure 
> > you do it
> > on cuba libre 3, so practice my man!
> > 
> > cuba libre 2
> > --------------------------
> > Regards,
> > OD
> > 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Allan Field" [Allan.Field at comcast.net]
> > Sent: 06/15/2006 02:52 AM
> > To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> > 
> > Orlando - It was very easy to deploy the pole when it was deck 
> > mounted.  I
> > am not totally comfortable yet with deploying from the mast but that 
> > will
> > come with a bit of experience that I hope to get over the next 18 
> > days! -
> > Allan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:42 PM
> > To: Catalina 320 List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> > 
> > It's quite easy to do.......
> > --------------------------
> > Regards,
> > OD
> > 
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rod Boer" [rod.boer1 at verizon.net]
> > Sent: 06/14/2006 06:40 PM
> > To: <Allan.Field at comcast.net>;"C320-List" 
> > <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> > 
> > Hi Allan,
> > 
> > Do you normally set the whisker pole by yourself?
> > 
> > Rod
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
> > To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Paul - The pole mount was installed by a rigger as I was 
> > recovering from
> > disk fusion surgery at the time.  So I don't know exactly how he 
> > installed
> > but I am sending the parts list under a separate e-mail to you.  I 
> > think
> > that a 12-22 pole might be too much for a 135; I have a 155 genoa.
> > 
> > I doubt that we will be at the East Coast Rendezvous at the end of 
> > July.  We
> > are going to San Diego in September for the C320 Rendezvous and are 
> > leaving
> > this Saturday for 18 days on the Bay, returning on 7/4.  To go to 
> > Baltimore
> > is 2 days up and 2 days back alone.
> > 
> > Say hello to Deb for us! - Allan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Weikel Paul
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:38 AM
> > To: 'Allan.Field at comcast.net'; 'C320-List'
> > Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> > 
> > Allan,
> > 
> > Several weeks back there was a thread going on the whisker pole for 
> > the
> > C320.
> > 
> > I must have deleted your email, so I apologize if I am repeating 
> > what has
> > already been discussed.
> > 
> > 
> > Pole size is  12-22   Correct for a 135 Genoa  ?
> > 
> > What length of track did you install on the mast  ?
> > 
> > How far off the cabin top or from the mast base is the lower end of 
> > the
> > track ?
> > 
> > How did you attach track to the mast  ?   rivots, screws, etc.  ???? 
> >  I
> > don't want to fray any of the lines.
> > 
> > 
> > My mainsail cover is similar to yours - no slots.  I loosen the 
> > Dutchman a
> > lot to have enough slack for the cover.  I put a small piece of tape 
> > around
> > the line to mark the position for both sail up and sail down.
> > 
> > 
> > Are you going to the East Coast All Catalina at the end of July  ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> > #361
> > Georgetown, MD
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allan Field [mailto:Allan.Field at comcast.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:22 AM
> > To: 'C320-List'
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Single line Dutchman?
> > 
> > Jeff - Does your mainsail cover have slots for the Dutchman?  If 
> > not,
> > wouldn't you need to slacken the Dutchman quite a bit in order to 
> > get the
> > cover on?  That is what I need to do with Sea Shadow's cover. - 
> > Allan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey 
> > Hare
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:52 PM
> > To: 'C320-List'
> > Subject: [C320-list] Single line Dutchman?
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    My dutchman line (the continuous loop line itself) has finally 
> > sprouted
> > so many puckers of the core out through the cover that the blocks 
> > snag and
> > don't run up/down very easily.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen the single line version that essentially has a cable with 
> > fixed
> > blocks holding the mono-filament line.  No clothsline loop, no jam 
> > cleat, no
> > turning-blocks, just a line with the dutchman blocks fixed in 
> > position that
> > gets attached to the topping lift and run up to the top of the 
> > mast.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rather than have a new closeline loop made, I'm considering just 
> > taking a
> > scrap of my old halyard, measuring off the positions of the blocks 
> > and
> > knotting the blocks in place.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Seems like then, all I'd have to do is ease the topping lift a 
> > little when
> > raising the sail, and tighten it up prior to dropping the sail.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > With the clothesline loop, I also have to do ease/tighten the 
> > topping lift
> > just a little, as well as running the dutchman blocks up/down.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Sounds to me like I save one step when dropping the main.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Has anyone else converted the continuous loop dutchman to a single?  
> > (I've
> > sailed with the single on a C380 and it seemed easier).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -JeffH
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