[C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation

Tue Jun 20 07:53:54 PDT 2006

Thanks, Steve.

Advice and comments are well received.

I'll let you know how the installation goes  ( hopefully this weekend ).
You must have had the mast down to use bolts.  (?)

Paul Weikel
Second Chance
#361

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Magennis [mailto:magenns at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:59 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation

Paul:  Although the 10-18 pole is long enough to use with the C-320
with a 135% genoa (According to PHRF, a whisker pole can't be any
longer than 12' 4" (the J dimension of our boats), the 12-22 is
stronger and will probably give you a better service life.

When I installed the track on the Alchemist, I only used a 1 1/4" x 4'
track, used flat head machine screws for the center holes and used hex
head bolts for the top and bottom. AS I recall, the bolts / machine
screws were 5/16" x 1 (or 3/4).  To guarantee that everything lined up,
I only drilled and tapped the top hole.  Once I had done that, I
installed the track and used it as a template to drill and tap the
bottom hole.  Once that bolt was installed, the remainder of the holes
were dead easy to get perfectly alligned. with my tightly bolted on
template.

Steve
Alchemist #909

--- Weikel Paul <Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com> wrote:

> Orlando,
> 
> Allan is checking his mast track location for me, but I thought you
> might
> remember what track length you installed and how far off the cabin
> top ?
> 
> How did you mount track to the mast ?  Rivets or screws or ?
> 
> What pole for a 135 Genoa ?   12-22  ?
> 
> 
> Paul Weikel
> Second Chance
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> [mailto:Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM
> To: Allan Field; Catalina 320 List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> 
> I know you'll be getting the hang of it quickly! :) I'll make sure
> you do it
> on cuba libre 3, so practice my man!
> 
> cuba libre 2
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allan Field" [Allan.Field at comcast.net]
> Sent: 06/15/2006 02:52 AM
> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> 
> Orlando - It was very easy to deploy the pole when it was deck
> mounted.  I
> am not totally comfortable yet with deploying from the mast but that
> will
> come with a bit of experience that I hope to get over the next 18
> days! -
> Allan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:42 PM
> To: Catalina 320 List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> 
> It's quite easy to do.......
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
> 
> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Boer" [rod.boer1 at verizon.net]
> Sent: 06/14/2006 06:40 PM
> To: <Allan.Field at comcast.net>;"C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> 
> Hi Allan,
> 
> Do you normally set the whisker pole by yourself?
> 
> Rod
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> 
> 
> Hi Paul - The pole mount was installed by a rigger as I was
> recovering from
> disk fusion surgery at the time.  So I don't know exactly how he
> installed
> but I am sending the parts list under a separate e-mail to you.  I
> think
> that a 12-22 pole might be too much for a 135; I have a 155 genoa.
> 
> I doubt that we will be at the East Coast Rendezvous at the end of
> July.  We
> are going to San Diego in September for the C320 Rendezvous and are
> leaving
> this Saturday for 18 days on the Bay, returning on 7/4.  To go to
> Baltimore
> is 2 days up and 2 days back alone.
> 
> Say hello to Deb for us! - Allan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Weikel Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:38 AM
> To: 'Allan.Field at comcast.net'; 'C320-List'
> Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> 
> Allan,
> 
> Several weeks back there was a thread going on the whisker pole for
> the
> C320.
> 
> I must have deleted your email, so I apologize if I am repeating what
> has
> already been discussed.
> 
> 
> Pole size is  12-22   Correct for a 135 Genoa  ?
> 
> What length of track did you install on the mast  ?
> 
> How far off the cabin top or from the mast base is the lower end of
> the
> track ?
> 
> How did you attach track to the mast  ?   rivots, screws, etc.  ???? 
> I
> don't want to fray any of the lines.
> 
> 
> My mainsail cover is similar to yours - no slots.  I loosen the
> Dutchman a
> lot to have enough slack for the cover.  I put a small piece of tape
> around
> the line to mark the position for both sail up and sail down.
> 
> 
> Are you going to the East Coast All Catalina at the end of July  ?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Weikel
> Second Chance
> #361
> Georgetown, MD
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Allan Field [mailto:Allan.Field at comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:22 AM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Single line Dutchman?
> 
> Jeff - Does your mainsail cover have slots for the Dutchman?  If not,
> wouldn't you need to slacken the Dutchman quite a bit in order to get
> the
> cover on?  That is what I need to do with Sea Shadow's cover. - Allan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:52 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: [C320-list] Single line Dutchman?
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> 
>    My dutchman line (the continuous loop line itself) has finally
> sprouted
> so many puckers of the core out through the cover that the blocks
> snag and
> don't run up/down very easily.
> 
> 
> 
> I've seen the single line version that essentially has a cable with
> fixed
> blocks holding the mono-filament line.  No clothsline loop, no jam
> cleat, no
> turning-blocks, just a line with the dutchman blocks fixed in
> position that
> gets attached to the topping lift and run up to the top of the mast.
> 
> 
> 
> Rather than have a new closeline loop made, I'm considering just
> taking a
> scrap of my old halyard, measuring off the positions of the blocks
> and
> knotting the blocks in place.
> 
> 
> 
> Seems like then, all I'd have to do is ease the topping lift a little
> when
> raising the sail, and tighten it up prior to dropping the sail.
> 
> 
> 
> With the clothesline loop, I also have to do ease/tighten the topping
> lift
> just a little, as well as running the dutchman blocks up/down.
> 
> 
> 
> Sounds to me like I save one step when dropping the main.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone else converted the continuous loop dutchman to a single? 
> (I've
> sailed with the single on a C380 and it seemed easier).
> 
> 
> 
> -JeffH
> 
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