[C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
Steve Magennis
magenns at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 20 11:32:04 PDT 2006
Nope. The mast was up. I cut threads into the mast.
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- Weikel Paul <Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Steve.
>
> Advice and comments are well received.
>
> I'll let you know how the installation goes ( hopefully this weekend
> ).
> You must have had the mast down to use bolts. (?)
>
> Paul Weikel
> Second Chance
> #361
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Magennis [mailto:magenns at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:59 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
>
> Paul: Although the 10-18 pole is long enough to use with the C-320
> with a 135% genoa (According to PHRF, a whisker pole can't be any
> longer than 12' 4" (the J dimension of our boats), the 12-22 is
> stronger and will probably give you a better service life.
>
> When I installed the track on the Alchemist, I only used a 1 1/4" x
> 4'
> track, used flat head machine screws for the center holes and used
> hex
> head bolts for the top and bottom. AS I recall, the bolts / machine
> screws were 5/16" x 1 (or 3/4). To guarantee that everything lined
> up,
> I only drilled and tapped the top hole. Once I had done that, I
> installed the track and used it as a template to drill and tap the
> bottom hole. Once that bolt was installed, the remainder of the
> holes
> were dead easy to get perfectly alligned. with my tightly bolted on
> template.
>
> Steve
> Alchemist #909
>
>
>
> --- Weikel Paul <Paul.Weikel at theglassgroup.com> wrote:
>
> > Orlando,
> >
> > Allan is checking his mast track location for me, but I thought you
> > might
> > remember what track length you installed and how far off the cabin
> > top ?
> >
> > How did you mount track to the mast ? Rivets or screws or ?
> >
> > What pole for a 135 Genoa ? 12-22 ?
> >
> >
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> > [mailto:Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 10:43 AM
> > To: Allan Field; Catalina 320 List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> >
> > I know you'll be getting the hang of it quickly! :) I'll make sure
> > you do it
> > on cuba libre 3, so practice my man!
> >
> > cuba libre 2
> > --------------------------
> > Regards,
> > OD
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Allan Field" [Allan.Field at comcast.net]
> > Sent: 06/15/2006 02:52 AM
> > To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> >
> > Orlando - It was very easy to deploy the pole when it was deck
> > mounted. I
> > am not totally comfortable yet with deploying from the mast but
> that
> > will
> > come with a bit of experience that I hope to get over the next 18
> > days! -
> > Allan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> > Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 11:42 PM
> > To: Catalina 320 List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> >
> > It's quite easy to do.......
> > --------------------------
> > Regards,
> > OD
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rod Boer" [rod.boer1 at verizon.net]
> > Sent: 06/14/2006 06:40 PM
> > To: <Allan.Field at comcast.net>;"C320-List"
> <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> >
> > Hi Allan,
> >
> > Do you normally set the whisker pole by yourself?
> >
> > Rod
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
> > To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul - The pole mount was installed by a rigger as I was
> > recovering from
> > disk fusion surgery at the time. So I don't know exactly how he
> > installed
> > but I am sending the parts list under a separate e-mail to you. I
> > think
> > that a 12-22 pole might be too much for a 135; I have a 155 genoa.
> >
> > I doubt that we will be at the East Coast Rendezvous at the end of
> > July. We
> > are going to San Diego in September for the C320 Rendezvous and are
> > leaving
> > this Saturday for 18 days on the Bay, returning on 7/4. To go to
> > Baltimore
> > is 2 days up and 2 days back alone.
> >
> > Say hello to Deb for us! - Allan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Weikel Paul
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:38 AM
> > To: 'Allan.Field at comcast.net'; 'C320-List'
> > Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Installation
> >
> > Allan,
> >
> > Several weeks back there was a thread going on the whisker pole for
> > the
> > C320.
> >
> > I must have deleted your email, so I apologize if I am repeating
> what
> > has
> > already been discussed.
> >
> >
> > Pole size is 12-22 Correct for a 135 Genoa ?
> >
> > What length of track did you install on the mast ?
> >
> > How far off the cabin top or from the mast base is the lower end of
> > the
> > track ?
> >
> > How did you attach track to the mast ? rivots, screws, etc.
> ????
> > I
> > don't want to fray any of the lines.
> >
> >
> > My mainsail cover is similar to yours - no slots. I loosen the
> > Dutchman a
> > lot to have enough slack for the cover. I put a small piece of
> tape
> > around
> > the line to mark the position for both sail up and sail down.
> >
> >
> > Are you going to the East Coast All Catalina at the end of July ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul Weikel
> > Second Chance
> > #361
> > Georgetown, MD
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allan Field [mailto:Allan.Field at comcast.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 6:22 AM
> > To: 'C320-List'
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Single line Dutchman?
> >
> > Jeff - Does your mainsail cover have slots for the Dutchman? If
> not,
> > wouldn't you need to slacken the Dutchman quite a bit in order to
> get
> > the
> > cover on? That is what I need to do with Sea Shadow's cover. -
> Allan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
> Hare
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:52 PM
> > To: 'C320-List'
> > Subject: [C320-list] Single line Dutchman?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > My dutchman line (the continuous loop line itself) has finally
> > sprouted
> > so many puckers of the core out through the cover that the blocks
> > snag and
> > don't run up/down very easily.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've seen the single line version that essentially has a cable with
> > fixed
> > blocks holding the mono-filament line. No clothsline loop, no jam
> > cleat, no
> > turning-blocks, just a line with the dutchman blocks fixed in
> > position that
> > gets attached to the topping lift and run up to the top of the
> mast.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rather than have a new closeline loop made, I'm considering just
> > taking a
> > scrap of my old halyard, measuring off the positions of the blocks
> > and
> > knotting the blocks in place.
> >
> >
> >
> > Seems like then, all I'd have to do is ease the topping lift a
> little
> > when
> > raising the sail, and tighten it up prior to dropping the sail.
> >
> >
> >
> > With the clothesline loop, I also have to do ease/tighten the
> topping
> > lift
> > just a little, as well as running the dutchman blocks up/down.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sounds to me like I save one step when dropping the main.
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone else converted the continuous loop dutchman to a single?
>
> > (I've
> > sailed with the single on a C380 and it seemed easier).
> >
> >
> >
> > -JeffH
> >
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