[C320-list] Traveler issue

[Chris Burti]

With one still in college...thinking about it is all
that is available to me for now...heheheh.
cb

--- belairlk at aim.com wrote:

> Think about putting in in-boom furling system---you
> can reef at any batten point.  I have Leisure furl
> coastal and it's great.
>  
> Len
> Aqua5 #1070 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:51:47 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Traveler issue
> 
> 
> It sounds as if we are doing the smae thing and the
> single line does not really change function.
> 
> Yes I have the upgraded traveler, but I sail in
> conditions that many prefer to stay home in. It only
> gets tough haul in above 25 knots. That seems to be
> the prevailing wind condition every time I head out
> to
> Okracoke Island. I only have a single reef, so that
> may be alleviated if I ever get around to putting in
> second reef.
> 
> --- David J Gleason <djgleason1 at juno.com> wrote:
> 
> > Chris:
> > 
> > I am not sure where you got the impression of only
> > one cam cleat.  All
> > that changed is rather than using two separate
> > pieces of line, I use one.
> >  There is enough slack in the line that allows it
> to
> > reach down to the
> > cockpit sole.  I would estimate there is 6 to 8
> feet
> > of line to use in
> > controlling the car position.  When we tack or
> gybe,
> > I cleat off both
> > sides of the line tack or gybe and then adjust the
> > position of the car. 
> > I can un cleat the line and feed out the slack
> side
> > as I pull in on the
> > new windward side.  By cleating prior to the
> > maneuver, there is never any
> > excess line to bunch up.
> > 
> > If needed, the halyard  winch's are always
> > available.  I did move the cam
> > cleats from the end of the traveller to the cabin
> > top next to the halyard
> > winches.  This allows cleating and uncleating the
> > control line without
> > and difficulty.
> > 
> > Prior to upgrading the traveler, I also had
> problems
> > bringing the boom up
> > to windward also.  Are you using the upgraded
> > traveler?
> > 
> > Dave Gleason
> > Proud Mary, #150
> > 
> > 
> >  On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Chris
> > Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
> > writes:
> > > Our later model travelers come with cam cleats
> on
> > the
> > > control lines. If you are bringing the boom up
> you
> > are
> > > pulling on the windward control line and no
> > attention
> > > is required of the leeward line except to
> release
> > it.
> > > 
> > > If you fail to cleat the leeward line after
> > bringing
> > > the boom up on a tack, the traveler car will
> slam
> > down
> > > after your next tack and if the wind is high
> > enough,
> > > the slack in the lines can create an ugly jam.
> > > 
> > > If you are adjusting the  boom down a little, no
> > > problem. Down a lot, the traveler may hang on
> the
> > > lines if you don't bring in the leeward line
> > because
> > > they are double blocked and can generate a lot
> of
> > > slack.
> > > 
> > > A continuous line that was short enough to let
> one
> > of
> > > the cam cleats control both sides would not
> offer
> > > enough purchase to properly trim the boom on
> > breezy
> > > days. I have found that when the wind gets up
> > above
> > > about 25 knots, it is all that I can do to trim
> it
> > > without the winch and I am a husky boy.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- David J Gleason <djgleason1 at juno.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I am confused by Chris's description.  If you
> > are
> > > > pulling in on one side,
> > > > the other side is feed out.  How could this
> > create a
> > > > bunching up of the
> > > > lines.  I think what Chris is describing is
> the
> > > > slack side lines bunching
> > > > up when tacking or gybing without keeping
> > tension on
> > > > the old tension
> > > > side.
> > > > 
> > > > To help alleviate this problem, along with
> > keeping
> > > > excess line out of the
> > > > cockpit, I use a continuous line.  I have one
> > piece
> > > > of line with each end
> > > > tied to one end of the traveller car.  There
> is
> > a
> > > > loop that hangs down to
> > > > the cockpit floor, so we can step over it
> > without
> > > > tripping.   I have
> > > > found it easier to handle rather than using a
> > much
> > > > longer piece on each
> > > > end of the car.
> > > > 
> > > > Dave Gleason
> > > > Proud Mary, #150
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Chris
> > Burti
> > > > <cburti at yahoo.com>
> > > > writes:
> > > > > Russ,
> > > > > I a bit confused, but then that is typical
> for
> > me.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I haven't experienced this nor can I
> visualize
> > it
> > > > > happening. The only time I have the traveler
> > > > control
> > > > > lines bunch, is when I gybe or tack without
> > having
> > > > > snugged up the leeward line or occasionally
> > when
> > > > > letting out the boom to leeward after
> swinging
> > > > > downwind from a close reach.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the former instance a quick tug on the
> > leeward
> > > > line
> > > > > before going back to the helm avoids
> problems
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > next tack. In the latter, it isn't too
> > difficult
> > > > to
> > > > > keep the leeward side tensioned as you are
> > > > releasing
> > > > > the windward side. It isn't an issue often
> > enough
> > > > for
> > > > > me to have considered a work around.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Russell Monaco <russgm at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > >     I assume I am not the only one with
> this
> > > > > > problem:
> 
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Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867, 
Farmville, NC

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